Buorhann Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 inb4 someone in Mensa posted this on their boards and asked for them to vote No. Actually this wasn't posted at all on our boards. Being a member of Mensa, I didn't even vote on this as I do not care one way or the other. But please, continue pointing out that we have a good organizational skills - even if it's on pointless polls. 1 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInZen Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 >94 total votes >66 no votes >63 members of Mensa I'm glad there are a few other players that agree with the Mensan Borg 1 Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefontaine Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I consider Mensa to be more of a political joke than I did before the war. So, that's changed. I've always thought Pub was a bad leader. So that hasn't changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I consider Mensa to be more of a political joke than I did before the war. So, that's changed. You actually thought more of us on a political level? Odd. 1 1 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollocks Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 CBs are a way of finding support from the public community. Other than that, it's all backroom stuff. Pretty much. Human psychology makes it so that everyone rationalizes they are inherently good and commit actions that are inherently good. The people leading Nazi Germany self-rationalized what they were doing was good because they were trying to throw off the shackles placed on Germany after WWI. People need to a cause to rally to, something to help them self-rationalize that the actions they are about to take are good (whether the actions are actually good or not is another story). People want to reaffirm that they are good, and disdain things that challenge that notion that they are good. A CB is something to help people re-affirm that they are doing good things. Without a CB, wars are cold hard machiavellian actions (i.e. my opponents are a threat to my power, and I need to eliminate that threat). Most people find cold hard machiavellian actions gut wrenchingly repulsive. You cannot self-rationalize that you are good person if you commit or support repulsive actions. That's why in games such as PnW, people in power who are perceived to be abusing power tend to lose that power faster. Obviously, people exist on a spectrum. Some care more about being good than others, but one needs the support of the many to establish and maintain power. 2 The Coalition Discord: https://discord.gg/WBzNRGK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Half the fun of this game is whining about CBs tho. I think this war it had more to do when people try to make up CBs, then claim "CB's don't matter". Can't have your cake and eat it. That and using OOC twisting to benefit an alliance, IC. I don't think anyone wants OOC brought into this game. i.e. IRL witchhunts over OOC/IRL things. I've seen that go south very fast in other games. My 2 cents. -Again it's proven that numbers matter so much less in this game. Sheer numbers don't necessarily mean a win. -Beiging with nukes is ruining war. Should be removed from the game. Too much beige imo. -Mensa and tS impressed me militarily, well done. -Never seen a war end that abruptly, but I pretty much know most of the reasons why -Hope we never see another proxy war like this. I hope people reassess how they do treaties, but I suspect it will not change. (TEst, wins best view on treaties yet again. ) -Glad to see reps a part of this game. I like what they add to things and nothing's been so insanely large. 1 Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I dont think nuke beiging is ruining war, it just adds another wrinkle you need to plan for when you fight. I know I used it to my advantage this war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I dont think nuke beiging is ruining war, it just adds another wrinkle you need to plan for when you fight. I know I used it to my advantage this war. I have to admit, when Mensa leadership allowed me to get my feet wet to plan out a 2nd wave ( 3rd wave maybe? ) attack - it was a pain in the ass to plan around nations that got nuke beiged. 1 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 -Beiging with nukes is ruining war. Should be removed from the game. Too much beige imo. A very simple solution. Don't nuke then. Having options in the game is good, and allows for different tactics and such. Therefore let alliances and individuals decide what they believe is the most optimum, and then put it to the test. That's one of the reasons why watching the last war was fairly enjoyable. It involved quite a lot of strategy on many levels. Just further limiting the game by taking some features out isn't adding anything to the game. 2 Second in Command of UPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 A very simple solution. Don't nuke then. Having options in the game is good, and allows for different tactics and such. Therefore let alliances and individuals decide what they believe is the most optimum, and then put it to the test. That's one of the reasons why watching the last war was fairly enjoyable. It involved quite a lot of strategy on many levels. Just further limiting the game by taking some features out isn't adding anything to the game. Nukes are the best, Everyone get nukes!!! and use them, all the time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Nukes are the best, Everyone get nukes!!! and use them, all the time!! Haha. Yeah that was pretty much what the consensus seemed to be with the vast majority of the community. I think UPN is one of the few alliances that haven't placed massive investments into nukes because we don't think they are particularly effective in most scenarios that we are likely to find ourselves in. I like having the option of them though, and there are certain situations when they are beneficial (whether they are cost effective at this stage of the game is another debate.) But removing them does nothing apart from further constrict options. As far as I am concerned, the more options, the more strategies... and therefore more fun to be had. 2 Second in Command of UPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatnate Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Nukes are the best, Everyone get nukes!!! and use them, all the time!! Better to have them and not need them, then not have them and have no way of fighting out of a defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicboyd25 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Nukes seem to be more of political items rather than military items. Maybe that has changed but that is what I remember of them for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Haha. Yeah that was pretty much what the consensus seemed to be with the vast majority of the community. I think UPN is one of the few alliances that haven't placed massive investments into nukes because we don't think they are particularly effective in most scenarios that we are likely to find ourselves in. I like having the option of them though, and there are certain situations when they are beneficial (whether they are cost effective at this stage of the game is another debate.) But removing them does nothing apart from further constrict options. As far as I am concerned, the more options, the more strategies... and therefore more fun to be had. We should start a conventional warriors club, you and us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeiffer Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 nooks are dumb ☾☆ Chairman Emeritus of Mensa HQ ☾☆ "It's not about the actual fish, themselves. Fish are not important in this context. It's about fish-ing, the act of fishing itself." -Jack O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nukes have their place. I know the main strategy is to not beige your opponent so more folks can jump them and ride them down to Z-Infra, but if you get blitzed by several folks at once with no real way to counter, dropping a few nukes could be a good equalizer. Think the end of the first Predator movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nukes have their place. I know the main strategy is to not beige your opponent so more folks can jump them and ride them down to Z-Infra, but if you get blitzed by several folks at once with no real way to counter, dropping a few nukes could be a good equalizer. Think the end of the first Predator movie. No, that just !@#$ you over more as your allies have no way to help you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I'm surprised no one's done nuke turreting or suicide nuking yet, but then again, VE stunned Guardian last war and Rose was attacking down. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 They have, pay attention Inst. If your not actually going to take the time to build a nation, the least you could do is look around before you post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reznikov Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 *may be abit late but ah well* CB?!... who cares Signature removed due to rule violation. All posts/imagery with text must be in English. ^ Totally not true I've seen tons of sigs with ' imagery not in english ' and so have you !! ' The Revolution shall not be silenced ' - Reznikov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Guess Inst didn't see VE glow in radiation due to Guardian? 1 Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 No, that just !@#$ you over more as your allies have no way to help you So decom all of your nukes then if you think they are not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatnate Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 So decom all of your nukes then if you think they are not needed. Nukes are for the day when your allies say no, or for power rolling rogues. Either works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 So decom all of your nukes then if you think they are not needed. We thank the Coach for his advice, though we do not recall hearing any exploits of his. . .apart from not knowing how to use nukes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 So decom all of your nukes then if you think they are not needed. If projects gave any kind of refund I would have long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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