Popular Post Keegoz Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 Let's see if we can get these forum discussions kicking a bit again. Thought it would be interesting to see the games perspective on the latest global, here are some categories I thought worth discussing. 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? Feel free to discuss one question or all of them. I'll likely post my own when I get some more time. 1 12 1 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) Who are we including in “GW27” since it seems not everyone is in agreement in which wars are seperate and which are the same.’ Edited May 9, 2023 by MinesomeMC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted May 9, 2023 Author Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, MinesomeMC said: Who are we including in “GW27” since it seems not everyone is agreement in which wars are seperate and which are the same.’ I'd go with the current wiki interpretation tbh. 1 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Keegoz said: I'd go with the current wiki interpretation tbh. So no LoD, Aurora, CoA, Hive, Guardian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Is the sky blue ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, Pascal said: Is the sky blue ? Not at night 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BettaChecka Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, MinesomeMC said: Who are we including in “GW27” since it seems not everyone is in agreement in which wars are seperate and which are the same.’ I would say the entire thing is GW27 but can be split into each individual conflict for more specific discussion. E.G. World vs Fortuna, Mid vs Evil Exes, KT vs LoD, World vs Cha Cha slide, Coven vs Aurora + Cata etc can all be considered as part of GW 27 as all of the participants were involved in the web of wars comprising GW27. 9 Quote BettaChecka Nation Link High Gov Milcom - Singularity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Name Here Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 The answer to all the questions is "Abbas". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KindaEpicMoah Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Keegoz said: 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? I thought Paradise did surprisingly well. They have the second most wars declared, being slightly ahead of Eclipse and only slightly behind Rose despite having a third of Rose's members, and have outpaced Cata and TKR for damage dealt (though I suppose being able to hit Afterlyfe has given them a slight edge, its only a slight one regardless). Anri still sux tho. KT would be here but they're too busy statpadding off of micros There's definitely areas Eclipse can improve on, but I'm proud of the number of offensive wars we've declared and will continue to keep pushing that number up after my finals are over. 15 hours ago, Keegoz said: 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? Defo TKR for getting both outgrown and now outfought by Rose. 15 hours ago, Keegoz said: 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? Legion of Dawn getting their members to find the declare war button and show up for a counterblitz automatically makes them better than like, 50% of the game, so I'd say that's a significant improvement. 15 hours ago, Keegoz said: 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? Rose. 15 hours ago, Keegoz said: 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? Also Rose. 15 hours ago, Keegoz said: Feel free to discuss one question or all of them. I'll likely post my own when I get some more time. Mr. dev team man, can you please tell us when we are getting literally any update at all? Thanks. Edited May 10, 2023 by KindaEpicMoah 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Abaddon Posted May 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Keegoz said: 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? Based Paradise war performance KT and Cata have done very well. I have to say Cata even more-so because coordinating with them has been extremely easy. Because betta never sleeps Eclipse arguably did the best on Fortuna's side both with declaring 200 more offensive wars than t$ and with their individual whales outperforming their allies. They objectively deserve respect for their war performance regardless of political bickering. 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? I'm aware that most of TKR's nations had to come in 2 hours after the blitz because of timezones/them being busy irl, but even with that said, TKR had a very underwhelming performance. 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? Paradise is the most improved alliance of the year so far Honestly I like how CTO did in their war with midgard. Considering they got voted for an award for how bad they were last war, this war is a pleasant change and I hope they keep letting Piggy cook. 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? Grumpy unironically lol 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? WANA not only lost the war, but also lost his mind :kekw: 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevanovia Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, abaddon said: I have to say Cata even more-so because coordinating with them has been extremely easy. My heart is so full to see my children getting along. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaChecka Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 53 minutes ago, abaddon said: Because betta never sleeps Neither do you my friend 3 Quote BettaChecka Nation Link High Gov Milcom - Singularity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? I think the top couple have been Rose, Cataclysm,KT,Paradise all have done very well and carried weight effectively Paradise gets knocked down to the c11 screwing up and hitting early but they have fought super well the rest of the war and redeemed themselves. 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? No one has fought super poorly but TKR very much so whelmed me not bad by any stretch but not anything special like previous wars 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? Got to give a shout out to LOD for performing a counter blitz and otherwise being more competent 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? God I'm sounding like a broken record of everyone else but Grumpy is the big winner bypassing the rest of the games war and keeping growing while everyone else slugs it out. 4 hours ago, Keegoz said: 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? I could write this long but being honest tons of losers this war but I'm going to say T$ fa in general and more of Wana's sanity Shoutout to people in Eclipse, Aurora, and others you know who you our for being good sports about this and taking it in good fun. 4 Quote Why are you reading this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, BettaChecka said: Neither do you my friend EU pepepain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMorf Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 This thread is pretty entertaining! Quote The Knights Radiant Ghostblood Babsk of Foreign Affairs Journey before Destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingNinja Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Quote 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? Paradise but I'd like to highlight other alliances that have been putting in good performances. 1. Dark Brotherhood is pulling their weight well for the 2nd war in a row, what's great about this is that they're showing consistency so the performance in Bifrost was clearly not just a 1 and done type of thing. Good show 2. I can't remember the last time House Stark fought, but clearly they're not entirely rusty. 3. Bourbon Street actually has higher unit kills than both HS and DB, so shoutout there too. 4. The Fighting Pacifists, huge points for fighting on 2 fronts for awhile. Ballsy of them. Quote 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? No one has been standout bad in comparison to previous wars. Even UPN & LoD have some positives to take out of their wars. Quote 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? For improvements I'll be biased and say CTO, at the same time we could have been much better in some area's. Room for improvement. For worse I'm going to say all of Midgard. Most of their C30+ tier had opportunities to rebuild to max or near multiple times to our detriment and despite the abundance of nations that was able to do this most just sat back and waited for their beiges to expire while we slotted them and pulled them back to 0 multiple times, squandering the possibility to come out on their own terms, co-ordinate and pull down our smaller nations between C20-25. Quote 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? Grumpy. They got a nice view of the chaos up there on their mountaintop of tranquility. CTO for the peace terms with Midgard. As well as a much needed PR boost for war performance. Quote 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? Poor WANA, although his villain arc has been quite entertaining and actually needed. Maybe a loss for him but a gain for brining some life to Orbis in other ways. Aurora took a PR hit that's probably worth noting, however Aurora has also been one of the most entertaining alliances the last half year, unfortunately this is the price that's paid. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindaEpicMoah Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, SleepingNinja said: 2. I can't remember the last time House Stark fought, but clearly they're not entirely rusty. Who paid you to write this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingNinja Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Just now, KindaEpicMoah said: Who paid you to write this? I can't reveal my sources as that would void the said payment. 3 cities and a moon landing here I come. 🙏 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkblade Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Keegoz said: 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? My boys in paradise showing why they should be a top 10 alliance in the game. 9 hours ago, Keegoz said: 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? Probly mayhem, despite this war being a dogpile and easy to stat pad off Fortuna, they still have negative net. 9 hours ago, Keegoz said: 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? TFP, was expecting them to be average due to the number of nations in their main tiering range. But they proved me wrong and remained just about as consistent with their wars as the majors, so props to Shwin and the rest of TFP gov. 9 hours ago, Keegoz said: 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? Grumpy for finally being able to avoid a war lmao. They hit the jackpot this war and should enjoy the peace while they can because I don't think the game will let them get comfortable for too long. But they deserved the peace tbh. 9 hours ago, Keegoz said: 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? It's pretty obvious who lost the most. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MBaku Posted May 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) -Brought to you by my burning desire to do anything other than study for finals right now - 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? Obviously, objectively KT. This isn't a question about who surprised you the most or performed better than previously. We're hardly a top 20 alliance in size but are second in net above way larger alliances despite fighting an entirely separate war against a larger alliance by ourselves and clapping them too. I know stats don't tell the whole story, but I would wager that if you ask t$ and Eclipse who's been killing them in the most competent manner it would be KT. I think unit kills is a more objective measure of success. We're 8th overall, but have a nearly 3:1 KTD ratio while every other major alliance is at or below 2:1. 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? T$ may not be the worst because micros exist, Afterlyfe and Strickland Propane have been particularly atrocious. It's not that we've come to expect more from t$, because we're getting used to horrible performances when they're on the wrong side of the dogpile. It's that the lack of effort/competence just resonates as stunning and spectacular for an alliance of T$'s size and influence. The Immortals also get a special shoutout for a remarkably forgettable war performance but I haven't fought them so my perception is based on the them losing horribly to what seemed to be the smaller half of Midgard and failing to recover any significant net even after Florida rolled their opponents for them. 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? Shout out to LoD for coming out of beige in Round 2 with almost 50 offensive wars declared. It's so rare an occurrence for an alliance to fight with full military and some semblance of coordination even staring down a dogpile. Even though LoD outnumbers KT, we have TFP and some Arrgh raiders that made it all but certain their blitz would fail. In the end, Denison smacked them down before any of TFP or Arrgh could really get any slots, but putting up a competent fight when you're outnumbered is probably the most commendable thing you can do in this game. So I'll ignore their inevitably atrocious net and tip my hat to Kan. I'm looking forward to seeing if you guys implement any changes if we get to round 3 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? Grumpy of course, but lots of winners - TFP, Rose, and Paradise came out looking strong. HS war performance I think is underrated. And LoD's performance can probably help put themselves as one of the best treaty candidates coming out of the crumbled Midgard sphere. Guardian jumped into a low risk dogpile and might get a chill rebuild period where they'll get ROI way faster than most others. 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? That's more of an FA question, and I don't know enough to give a good answer. Wana's implosion was pretty fun to watch. Grumpy might yet be a loser down the road with the whole world taking notice that they sat this one out. Mayhem came in with a lot of infra, but their unit kill to death ratio is remarkably low for being on the right side of a dogpile and having someone as experienced as Boyce at the helm. And shoutout to Strickland propane for getting pretty much singlehandedly rolled by Voidtree and posting an RoH against our whole alliance in response just a grand total of four wars against us (which might have been all against just Voidtree) lol Edited May 10, 2023 by MBaku 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share Posted May 10, 2023 19 hours ago, KindaEpicMoah said: Mr. dev team man, can you please tell us when we are getting literally any update at all? Thanks. We'll likely get some projects (we announced the pirate ones already) fairly soon. I am aware that's a bit of an eyeroll, but it is the fastest thing that can be coded into the game. We are trying to be a little bit more creative with the next ones. Actual updates: The war re-writes according to Village are somewhat close. He said it was hard to give a timeline on. I believe after that the new player stuff will come out as well as some war changes. Once we get closer to the prospect of perks being able to be coded, we'll likely spend months trying to balance it (and likely fail). There has been discussion about trying to tweak some consumption rates of resources, as most resources seem to be increasing (especially in food). 1 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegoz Posted May 13, 2023 Author Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) As promised: 1. Which alliance fought the best this war? Why? As noted, harder to tell in a war that is a dogpile. I definitely think KT, Cata and Paradise fight above their weight class. Rose seems to be improving bit by bit each war and thus probably reaching where we'd expect them to be as the undeniable #1 alliance in the game in a lot of other metrics. On the losing side, I think Eclipse and Aurora deserve some recognition. Eclipse imo is still the best fighting major in this game. 2. Which alliance fought the worse this war? Why? t$, I won't deny that when t$ went on the offensive against GGO that I thought that maybe their milcom was turning a corner but... I feel like t$ has no clue what to do on the backfoot in a war. Which is surprising because since 2021 that is pretty much their entire experience. 3. Did any alliance improve this war or perform worse? Paradise improved quite a bit this war. Might be more evident to those who worked with them before, but they have definitely learnt quite a bit from those earlier wars. 4. Who was the biggest winner out of the war? aka who gained the most? I'll split this between Rose and Grumpy. Rose has now taken down almost all their rivals now. GGO split with part of it joining them. They rolled Cata (not really a rival but they got revenge), they rolled Eclipse, they rolled t$. The only ones they haven't rolled is TKR, and that is partially because others took care of it for them. Grumpy gets to make up for some lost ground due to the losing streak against Eclipse + TEst. 5. Who was the biggest loser out of the war? aka who lost the most? t$. Probably got more chances than they really deserved. I am not sure where they go politically from this, they seem unable or unwilling to change. An unstable and untrustworthy ally, with now one of the worst track records since NPO's departure. Edited May 14, 2023 by Keegoz 3 2 Quote [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: But Keegoz is actually bad. [11:52 PM] Prefontaine: He's my favorite bad leader though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 It's really hard to determine whos on what side and there hasn't been valid CBS. It's just people picking targets and declaring wars like a battle Royale. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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