Popular Post Ripper Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) With the disbandment of Terminal Jest, most wars between Terminal Jest and IQ plus allies have come to an end. You can find the first war stats on alliances level here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10O5scQXDHzGFHY5yeUy6FEvKClHz5WsttH-a65iTKHI/edit#gid=402208032 On the following table you can see the most important results (all details at the spreadsheet link above): Most stats are self-explanatory, however a few tips are needed: Alliance "Other" is referred to some wars that took place between Terminal Jest and Dragonstone, Cerberus and Polaris. No official DoW or RoH has been made public from either side. These wars are only 7 (compared to the total 470+ wars), so they don't affect the stats a lot. Although Lordaeron disbanded midwar, most of its stats were included in the Cornerstone stats. "Damage" (caused or sustained) includes all the loots (nation and bank), military expenses and infra expenses. It doesn't include gas/munitions used during war or lost resources due to decommissioned troops. "Net losses" is the result of Sustained Damage + Gas/Munitions spent + Decommissioned steel - Loots earned. The final losses of an alliance. Net Damage is the difference between caused and sustained damage. Performance is the Damage_caused / Damage_sustained ratio. Efficiency is the Damage_caused / Net_losses ratio. Loots include cash and the value of resources. The value of resources is calculated by using the average prices of the market from the past few months (second tab). An estimation was made for the average value of infra, as if all infra was distributed in sets of 100 at 1.1k to 1.2k infra cities or so. The infra damage sustained by each nation was accurately calculated. These numbers are not an estimation but the true value. An estimation was also made for the consumed gas and munitions. It was assumed that all the tanks destroyed were burnt by airstrikes. Each aircraft destroys 2 tanks or so on average. Every 4 aircraft need 1 gas/munition per airstrike. The result of this calculation was doubled to give a rough estimation of the consumed resources from other types of attacks. An estimation was made regarding the decommissioned steel from the side of Terminal Jest to perform repeatitive downdeclares. This data is not available for IQ, although nations have been seen to sell troops to get momentarily out of TJ nations range. Bank loots are also included, although for TJ an initial (over)estimation was provided. In the upcoming days, these results may be updated and refined. Also, another list will be published with the stats of each individual that participated to the war as well as the raw data for the rest of the alliances to use (and cross-check the stats). Finally, I will provide some tables showing some trends that were observed during the war (e.g. number of nukes launched per day). For those that may have any questions/comments about the reports, you can PM me on Discord or leave a comment here. For those going in peace mode, I wish you quick rebuilding. For those preparing for more wars, I wish you a fun new campaign. Edited February 25, 2018 by Ripper Updated stats 41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 VE, BK, and Zodiac definitely put effort into this.  Acadia couldn't do much as they were usually getting targeted due to their higher tier being alienated from the rest of the Bloc it seemed. Not sure on Cornerstone or NPO (the latter seemingly looking to avoid it). Lordaeron had some nations prepped.  Not sure if that's a usual build in their cities, but it did make it hard to pick them out as they could've built up and pinned any nations that declared on them. It was rather interesting seeing all of the alliances having a different approach despite having similar starting military builds. 4 Quote Warrior of Dio  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Congrats guys. Looks fun for both sides. Seeing the different strategy usage was interesting. 30 billion is pretty huge. Does this mean it is all done and closed or will these stats change still? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Micchan Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) We you just created an excel sheet with the TKR stats for the war with Arrgh with the basic units killed + infra and loot and Ripper comes out with a NASA tier stat page with the minutes of porn watched by every player waiting before the update Edited February 24, 2018 by Micchan 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Akuryo Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 30 billion in damages... Good f*cking game. The memes were great too,amusing that the first war i get to watch in Orbis is a bunch of shitposters going postal on an entire bloc. A true sight to have beholden in memory. Truly, a most glorious culture victory. Just now, Micchan said: We you just created and excel sheet with the TKR stats for the war with Arrgh with the basic units killed + infra and loot and Ripper comes out with a NASA tier stat page with the minutes of porn watched by every player waiting before the update Why you were born? Well now everyone makes mistakes don't think too hard on it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Apeman said: Congrats guys. Looks fun for both sides. Seeing the different strategy usage was interesting. 30 billion is pretty huge. Does this mean it is all done and closed or will these stats change still? Any other conflict will be part of another war. Terminal Jest is no more. Even if its ex-members get hit, we will get a different conflict, like in the case of IoM, were players ghosting TJ went back to their alliance. 2 minutes ago, Micchan said: We you just created an excel sheet with the TKR stats for the war with Arrgh with the basic units killed + infra and loot and Ripper comes out with a NASA tier stat page with the minutes of porn watched by every player waiting before the update What? That's the summary, Micchan. 2 minutes ago, Angel Akuryo said: The memes were great too,amusing that the first war i get to watch in Orbis is a bunch of shitposters going postal on an entire bloc. A true sight to have beholden in memory. Burn everything and have fun! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vack Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2018 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Micchan Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Angel Akuryo said: Why you were born? I guess not to create things but to destroy things (This picture was made after I was told to be ready at the update for a war but before knowing what the target would have been so the part with the broken dreams is missing) 7 minutes ago, Ripper said: What? That's the summary, Micchan. Well you don't need more than the summary for a war where the top player for tanks destroyed has 4180 and the top for air destroyed has 415 (stats updated almost a day ago) 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Micchan said: Well you don't need more than the summary for a war where the top player for tanks destroyed has 4180 and the top for air destroyed has 415 (stats updated almost a day ago) Â Told you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Micchan Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2018 Â Â Â 41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Damn @Micchan. Do you not have any chill? Quote Warrior of Dio  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphim Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Twas a good day to die ? At least better than a stagnant peacetime, where everyone's busy coding off to glory or designing flags all day. Interesting stats. Thank you Ripper, for the effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Them Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Ripper said: An estimation was made for the average value of infra, as if all infra was distributed in sets of 100 at 1.1k to 1.2k infra cities or so. Yeah...I really doubt that's an accurate reflection of the damages taken. Your spreadsheet uses $6009 per level of infrastructure, but most combatants had at least 2k infra at the onset of the war. Assuming that infra-bombing stopped at 800 infra, that's $11313 per level of infra, or nearly twice as much. TJest still outperforms IQ (to nobody's surprise), but the money looted pads a smaller portion of the damage sustained. 2 Quote [insert quote here] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Them said: Yeah...I really doubt that's an accurate reflection of the damages taken. Your spreadsheet uses $6009 per level of infrastructure, but most combatants had at least 2k infra at the onset of the war. Assuming that infra-bombing stopped at 800 infra, that's $11313 per level of infra, or nearly twice as much. TJest still outperforms IQ (to nobody's surprise), but the money looted pads a smaller portion of the damage sustained. Considering I even got 1k infra cities nuked, I can argue against this. Keep in mind that around 240k infra damage caused by IQ was from nukes, which means we got around 140 transitions from 300 infra to 2k infra. Also, infra-bombing never stopped at 800 infra in many cases, for the TJ members that got neutralized early in the war. However, indeed, I may have to work more on the formula and provide and average infra cost for each alliance, considering that e.g. Acadia had much higher infra levels than e.g. NPO. Something I am considering is calculating the damage of nukes first with a standard infra level in mind (e.g. 2.2k for TJest and 1.8k for IQ) and then getting the rest of the damage evenly distributed to the number of cities of all combatants, keeping in mind the original average infra level, coming from the average infra per city of each alliance from historical data before the war. If there are any other suggestions, I am all ears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I totally nuked some 1k Cities. I know I wasted nukes, but those were all paid for from the loots I got. Plus people keep spy killing my Soldiers for some strange reason instead of the nukes I had. 1 Quote Warrior of Dio  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 I am currently going through all the beligerent nations and getting the actual infra damages per nation. I will update the total infra damages per alliance when I finish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavee Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Buorhann said: I totally nuked some 1k Cities. I know I wasted nukes, but those were all paid for from the loots I got. Plus people keep spy killing my Soldiers for some strange reason instead of the nukes I had. I tried but failed. Edit :- than I decided to assassinate Spies Edited February 25, 2018 by Flavee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ripper Posted February 25, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Them said: Yeah...I really doubt that's an accurate reflection of the damages taken. Your spreadsheet uses $6009 per level of infrastructure, but most combatants had at least 2k infra at the onset of the war. Assuming that infra-bombing stopped at 800 infra, that's $11313 per level of infra, or nearly twice as much. TJest still outperforms IQ (to nobody's surprise), but the money looted pads a smaller portion of the damage sustained. I went ahead and calculated for each nation exactly the value of the sustained infra damage. As you predicted, the real value was double that of my original estimation. Thanks for your comment. The stats have been updated. In a little over than 1 day, when all wars end, I will upload the stats of each nation and the raw data. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Ripper said: I went ahead and calculated for each nation exactly the value of the sustained infra damage. As you predicted, the real value was double that of my original estimation. Thanks for your comment. -Cornerstone is 20 times worse than than TJ and only a sixth of the way to mediocre. This is definitely more accurate. 4 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holton Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 22 hours ago, Micchan said:    Inb4 logs of kayser yelling at you over these memes 3 Quote Superbia  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 24-2-2018 at 9:32 PM, Buorhann said: VE, BK, and Zodiac definitely put effort into this.  Acadia couldn't do much as they were usually getting targeted due to their higher tier being alienated from the rest of the Bloc it seemed. Not sure on Cornerstone or NPO (the latter seemingly looking to avoid it). Lordaeron had some nations prepped.  Not sure if that's a usual build in their cities, but it did make it hard to pick them out as they could've built up and pinned any nations that declared on them. It was rather interesting seeing all of the alliances having a different approach despite having similar starting military builds. 4 Quote  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 You just wait @Partisan. 1 Quote Warrior of Dio  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Assuming I'm not incompetent, OWR pulled their shit together at the last minute. Damn shame they didn't coordinate earlier else it might've been more of a fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sval Posted February 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2018 7 hours ago, Hodor said: Assuming I'm not incompetent, OWR pulled their shit together at the last minute. Damn shame they didn't coordinate earlier else it might've been more of a fight. That last fight with you was so much fun, and such a close-fought thing. It wasn't easy keeping you pinned down. Especially with the other wars we were fighting. This entire war was fun. 7 Quote <~Sval[OWR]> I am your father.<+Curufinwe> Can confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Sval said: That last fight with you was so much fun, and such a close-fought thing. It wasn't easy keeping you pinned down. Especially with the other wars we were fighting. This entire war was fun. Agreed. You all staggered/coordinated your attacks and activity beautifully, may we meet again! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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