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10 years ago today, The Knights Radiant was formed. We started with around 16 members as a protectorate of The Syndicate. The world then looked very different: It’s been an eventful 10 years. Approximately 1500 people have been a part of our alliance throughout the years, including those who are still a member now. We’ve had around 129 total people in gov, including seven leaders. We’ve seen the game shift from IRC and forums to Discord and moved ourselves from IRC to Slack and most recently Discord. We had a long stretch as the number one alliance. We’ve been through nearly all the major ups and downs of the game and continued through as a strong community. Arguably most important of all, we’ve converted countless people into Sanderson fans.... A special thank you to all our allies over the years for your friendship and for your support. We’ve been very lucky to have had some wonderful allies throughout the years and made some great friends. Though our in-game relationships may have changed throughout the years, so many of you have been steadfast OOC friends to us as well, and it’s been wonderful to get to know you. Most of all though, I want to thank our gov and our members, past and present. So many people have been a part of TKR’s history and have helped make the alliance what it is today. The result has been the creation of an incredible and tight-knit community. I’ve never ceased to be impressed by this alliance and its resilience, fortitude, and sense of camaraderie. I couldn’t be more proud to be a part of it, let alone lead it. Keep being amazing, Radiants! Here’s to 10 years!

TGH’s recent decision to move into our color bloc, bringing in allies and extensions and in the process tanking the bonus for those already there, comes despite our attempts to reach out and pursue good‑faith diplomacy. This choice is viewed by EVH as a clear and provocative move and runs counter to the spirit and understanding of the NAP we had in place. This behavior is inconsistent with the spirit and terms of the existing NAP between our blocs. In response, EVH and SPC have begun strikes on THT as a warning. TGH and AA now have 5 days from this notice to move all nations out of gold. If after this time we see no movement, or if we see any effort to arm up, we will extend the strikes to TGH and AA as well.

Effective Immediately, Spectre is implementing a shift in its foreign affairs policy. This new direction will emphasize a more forward-facing, transparent, and a public approach to a broad range of foreign affairs issues. Key Pillars of the New Policy: Forward-Facing Engagement Spectre will actively seek and initiate official dialogue. Strategic priorities and intentions will be clearly communicated in advance, allowing for constructive diplomatic discussions and collaboration. Transparency Foreign policy objectives, agreements, and actions will be disclosed, with regular briefings and public updates. Spectre will more actively utilize public forums to address a wide range of foreign affairs topics, including: Public declarations of positions on foreign affairs issues Statements regarding escalated matters with other alliances, regardless of their size Official decrees and updates related to diplomatic developments Public Diplomacy Public platforms such as RON and other news servers or community-based servers will be used proactively as official channels for foreign affairs communications. Public statements on the forums regarding ongoing diplomatic engagements and their outcomes will become more commonplace. The following is an example of what's to come in this foreign affairs policy shift: Earlier today, Spectre confirmed the detection of spy operations activity targeting our protectorate, Shadow Valley. The operation in question was traced directly to the nation of Lost Symbol, a recognized official of Rose. This act constitutes a direct violation of Shadow Valley’s sovereignty and, by extension, an affront to Spectre’s protective obligations. As of this release, Spectre has initiated a proportional counter operation targeting Lost Symbol. Active spy operations (assassinating spies) against Lost Symbol are being carried out. This response is measured, for every Shadow Valley spy compromised, an equivalent number will be taken out. To the Rose Alliance: Spectre remains open to dialogue. However, let it be understood that attacks, direct or by proxy, against any nation under Spectre’s protection will be met with an immediate and proportional response. Should Rose wish to avoid further escalation, we invite its Foreign Affairs Department to engage in direct talks. Until then, Spectre stands by its protectorate and acts without hesitation. TL;DR: Spectre will be taking a more public approach to foreign affairs matters including using the forums. We will try our best to find a happy medium where we aren't too excessively using the forums.

I didn’t really want to write anything to announce this, because just quietly, I hate attention. But nevertheless, I do think (after some rather persistent annoyance and reminders from a certain SIN member), it’s important to address some changes, albeit however briefly. A lot of you would know the name Abaddon. A few of you may have been fortunate enough to know some of his previous names. Trip, as we all affectionately call him, has been a backbone of our alliance since day 0. To me thinking I could poach him into The Syndicate during my days there, to when I went out and helped form Requiem, until I eventually came over in a reverse moment to join the newly forming Singularity. All our members, and a lot of our government, pays homage to someone I consider one of the best Internal Affairs (and less formally, one of the best people-persons) I’ve met in the game. It’s a shame to see him have to leave the game, and although the question is in the air for us, we hope he is doing okay IRL considering some extreme governmental circumstances. We nevertheless remain optimistic that one day, he’ll have the itch once more - to log on discord, wake up to my one million missed messages, and to slave his life away for a little bit longer. Moving forward, with Trip’s nation placed into a perma VM, he joins @anri as a resident femboy. I would also like to thank Darkblade for his time serving in both our Foreign Affairs and Tech teams. I've treasured his invaluable contributions, and for him being the architect of some great (and morally questionable) memes. Against all odds I somehow find myself filling Abaddon’s shoes. They’re too big, the gargantuan !@#$. So, I guess this post serves as a respect to the two retired leadership members, hopefully not a homage to one of them, and an announcement on changes within Singularity’s leadership. Leadership Prime Intelligence: Sketchy & Tartarus Neural Network: Keegoz & Sarah Directives (High Gov) Control Directive (MA): Kyubnyan Interface Directive (IA): Sarah Assimilation Directive (FA): Keegoz Resource Directive (EA): Goose Surveillance Directive: Uriah TLDR; read it, don’t be lazy

Spectre currently maintains normalized or favorable relations with the majority of the top alliances across Orbis. At this time, we do not perceive any immediate or imminent major threats to our alliance. Concerns: The Golden Horde’s persistent aggression towards Spectre and our allies has not escaped our notice. Their repeated attempts to undermine us, particularly during the Geneva Convention talks and efforts to drive a wedge between us and Rose are noted and monitored. Agreement with Pacific Pirates: After signing an agreement to end our conflict with Pacific Pirates, there have been new wars launched against our Protectorate, Shadow Valley, for “one round”. The continuation of this aggression on our protectorate threatens the agreement, and continuation of such aggression will likely result in a resumption of hostilities with Pacific Pirates. While not classified as a direct threat, the significant investment by Eclipse and The Syndicate in Military Research has placed them well ahead of Spectre and many other alliances in terms of military advancement. Singularity’s growing stockpile of nuclear weapons has drawn our attention. While we do not believe these weapons will be deployed against Spectre, the increasing quantity raises concerns regarding their potential use. The uncertainty surrounding when and against whom these weapons may be used remains a matter that requires continuous attention. Non-Aggression Pact Status: With just under two months remaining on our Non-Aggression Pact with Rose & Co, Spectre does not anticipate a renewed conflict or escalating hostilities with Rose & Co at this time.

Color bloc conflicts?

Mom look, I'm in a forum post again! Are you going to include the part where you slotted me over saying your members are bleeding loot or popped a vein after biting down on rage bait like a micro leader?

Hey guys, As some may know, the next update will primarily be an econ update focused one. The last thread was apart of that but the economics of it largely related to military. The rest of the update we do intend to be more purely econ focused. This is intended to be a large update in multiple parts, with the final part not completed. So I'll start off with the idea I have been working on to go with the econ update: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P_xb98EV1RvH5vVeyuOdlNUN0oLWXc83Fn9U3a6Ourg/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0 I'll leave it in this document because formatting is just easier than the forums and I can edit it much more freely as feedback comes in. The main aim is to give players more to do and think about each day when they log in. I am aware it isn't a flashy mechanic, but I hope it does reward activity and different playstyles that could be further built upon. The idea would be to in the future, add different ways to gain political power and lowering logging in being the main way overall. Think potentially a pvp game where the winner receives a small amount. The second part is brainstorming one last idea to add to the game for this update, I'd ask if you have any further ideas to pop them below. I will also link one that seems to have had a lot of thought put into it and seems to be getting some positive feedback thus far: If people are happy with that idea, the design team is fine reviewing it and incorporating it into the final write up of the econ update but I wanted to leave room for others to have input as well.

Over the last month or so there has been plenty of drama back and forth between Epi and Rose, delivering some much-needed content to the game during a stale period. With that said, everyone needs a break from war after being in endless combat. Today, after a little over one month of fighting, we have come to an agreement with Camelot on peace. Beginning today at day change (8:00 EST) peace will be in place between the parties of Camelot, Samurai, Rose, and The Fighting Pacifists. - Any wars declared prior to this DC may be finished by beige, expiration, or peace. There will be peace between both parties and additionally, the following will take place as a sign of good faith: - The Geneva Convention server will be deleted by The Fighting Pacifists, - Rose states publicly that Camelot should not be politically isolate - Samurai must return to their pre-war color bloc, With these steps, we believe Camelot will be able to get back on their feet and make headway with any future ties they wish to have without concern of Rose. Furthermore, we wish Epi and Camelot their best on their pirate arc. For Rose, DiamondBlocker10, High King Velyni Vas, Prince of the Valar George, Vala of Foreign Affairs For TFP, Shwin, Shark Erik, Facilitator Aligned, Facilitator Shock, Defender of Peace For Camelot, King: Epimetheus Prince: Doge The Round Table For Samurai, Shogun: Eleazar Vice Shogun: Tointlu II & Gwazi

I want to preface this post by stating that from what I have gathered from public posts and the recent gamewide poll, the design team is currently looking for ideas related to expanding the econ mechanics in the game. While there are definitely other areas of the game that could also use attention, I am proposing this idea with that in mind. Porting the entire concept to a forum post is going to be rather difficult as the design document I have written is 11 pages, so instead I'll simply link the google document for people to read. If anyone has any questions or potential issues let me know in the replies I suppose. Here is the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cZhQPgYb6MJifHP0NhVFlcAxSgW4s8RRUFOlAAczZJk/edit?usp=drivesdk

Velyni: "Camelot should not be politically isolated." George:

Psst @EpimetheusTalksI'll await for your response... LYRICS: VERSE 1 So I'm back. I'm on the rack and orating I know that you got a job little Freddi But EPI's BS problems are complicating And I don't who I should be congratulating Wrote a song about epi a few years ago Everybody told me I should just let it go Kev even flew and said don't be a foe Then guess who blew into my phone, George Then he handed me a microphone Told me a couple stories you should probably know So without further ado let's start the show and demonstrate Epi's long lived status quo How do you spend an hour on a livestream Not explain anything and stuck on the same screen Saying you got intelligence but showing us nothing Anything to keep relevance without actually being "Actually I did cite to some positive proof" Yeah and Rose ripped that fedora of ya, silly goof Durnill wannabe and that's all you'll ever be Chasing a dream of a dead Youtuber's scene All rise for the trial of the century mess, Where the facts wear wigs and the claims bench-press The gavel’s a spoon, the clerk’s half asleep, And Epi’s got theories stacked thirty feet deep CHORUS Balance of prob-a-bi-li-ties, That’s not a fact, that’s just disease You tossed out truth for fan-tasies, Now you swingin’ wild with no receipts (2x) VERSE 2 Court’s in session, bring the lights and the tea, Mr. Epi, take the stand — explain your decree Your honor, Rose broke the pact, that’s fact! Just don’t ask when or where I’m not good with that Clause two, clause four somewhere in between They plotted in shadows or maybe a dream Can you show us proof? A log? A name? Or is this more of your mind palace game? I don’t need proof, I’ve got intuition And balance of probabilities that’s my ammunition Sir, that’s just vibes with a lawyer disguise We need facts, not your bedtime lies People lie, people scheme, people do bad stuff So I figured Rose did too that’s evidence enough And the debt thing? That CB claim? The bank said “nah,” so who’s to blame? Look, just ‘cause no record exists at all Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen behind the firewall So your whole case is pure suspicion No plot, no proof, just gut intuition? Exactly, my friend — and that’s Clause 2! Where logic goes missing, and fantasy’s true Everybody join hands with me Epi on the Dream Team! CHORUS Balance of prob-a-bi-li-ties, That’s not a fact, that’s just disease You tossed out truth for fan-tasies, Now you swingin’ wild with no receipts (2x) Request a Diss of your enemy: hit me up on Discord.

Hey all, This thread is to be seen as floating a few ideas and seeing what people think. They are not linked and further details will likely come later for a few of them. Idea 1 - Buffing Cost Reduction Military Research This will be the only one in which I will confirm, *something* will happen with to buff this side of the tree. Currently we think this side needs an extra mechanic to be seen as viable when compared to unit cap increase. It should be noted that a few bugs are being removed from the unit cap which weren't intended upon release (e.g. being able to have units without any mil improvements). Anyway, the idea is fairly simple: Add 0.5% rebuy buff for the unit being researched per level - this would be 10% rebuy should you complete the tree for that unit. We would need to probably rename this side of the tree to Military Efficiency rather than cost reduction. Idea 2 - Encouraging War It's no secret that wars are detrimental to growth and economics. This has swung to the point where political actors seek to avoid war rather than promote them and has led to political stagnation. The solution is to therefore give incentive to alliances to not farm endlessly but to create wars to also benefit them economically. The idea: Introduce a new metric tracked on peoples nations. Each day, their stagnation ticks up by 1 point. Once it reaches 60 points, the population and resource production in cities begins to decline based on the following formula. Population (%) = 1-MAX(((I23 - 60) / 240) * 0.6,-2) Resource Production (%) = 1-MAX(((I23 - 60) / 240) * 0.7,-2) Now I will say, these are some rough numbers to give an idea and the way it would work does need more fleshing out, but please see below: As you can see, after 60 days a negative modifier will slowly kick in. Every 30 days (roughly 1 month) the modifier gets worse. Conversely you can decrease your modifier so that you gain economic output (this is capped at -30). To reduce your stagnation modifier, you would need to complete wars. The amount being reduced I believe should be linked to war type declarations: Raid War - Reduces stagnation by 2 Ordinary War - Reduces stagnation by 3 Attrition War - Reduces stagnation by 4 Please note, both the nation losing and the offensive nation would have their stagnation modifier reduced by the same amount upon war completion. This may also encourage more even wars as the fight over slots becomes more important. Idea 3 - Make wars cheaper Quite easy this one. Reduce military gained by cities & research by 20%. Makes wars cheaper, promoting more wars. Flattens war range allowing for more interaction between tiers. Reduces the impact of cities on overall war strength, in preparation for future mechanics, making the war system less dependent on cities. These are the numbers: Reduce hangar capacity from 15 to 12 Reduce tank factory capacity from 250 to 180 Reduce barracks capacity from 3000 to 2400 Reduce drydocks capacity from 5 to 4 Reduce by a similar rate across military research Feedback: Please note that these are 3 discussion ideas and not all related to each other. Upvoting or downvoting this post gives me very little idea of what people do or do not approve on and therefore written feedback is always better.

Camelot / Rose / TFP Peace Agreement (Peace Thread) Spectre congratulates Rose and The Fighting Pacifists on reaching a peace agreement with Camelot. We commend the fair and balanced terms agreed upon by all parties, as they represent an important step toward de-escalation. We view this agreement as a positive foundation for restoring and rebuilding trust between all parties. Spectre remains open and willing to work alongside Camelot in supporting efforts to rebuild trust with Rose and The Fighting Pacifists and bring an end to its political isolation. Maroon ("What a Maroon!") Color Bloc: Effective immediately, Spectre will be strictly policing the Maroon ("What a Maroon!") color bloc alongside our partners in World Task Force and Camelot. Any uninvited alliance entering the Maroon color bloc will be considered a hostile actor, encroaching on our sovereignty, and will be met with a coordinated military response regardless of any existing Non-Aggression Pact with Spectre. Alliances interested in pursuing the Maroon bloc are encouraged to reach out and seek the approval (of Spectre, World Task Force, or Camelot) through the appropriate channels before taking any action. Official Response to Threats Against Spectre Members: Upon joining our server, the above member of The Penthouse (formerly of The Syndicate) has issued threats to target members of Spectre "in the coming weeks". Spectre does not take such threats lightly, and as such is firmly committed to returning any damage in full should this individual act on their statements. We will carry out this response following their rebuild, and our policy will remain in place regardless of the alliance they join or the Non-Aggression Pact (NAP) status that alliance may hold with Spectre. Any alliance considering acceptance of this player should be fully aware of our position and the consequences that will follow if hostile actions are taken against our members.

This is Epi's fault

Let the record show I was a total sweetheart, as usual. He made a hard stance, we made a hard stance. Now it's a game of chicken.

My guy, so why dont TGH go on Green and see what T$ Grumpy does? Oh also bring THT and AA too. Do you think they would need a SS proof of Kastor plotting to tank green with THT and AA? You are asking for proof that unless someone from gov leaks wont happen, but its clear as day whats going on. TGH is trying to force a situation in which EVH has to responded after trying to police Gold. Are you telling me if TGH moved THT and AA to Olive we would still need a SS to show that TGH plotted to tank Olive? Just because its a new color doesnt mean the rules dont apply, You are trying to require proof because Gold is a new color but if it was Olive would you still need proof the NAP was broken? Only reason why you are here arguing asking for proof is because you know no one has those unless its from a internal leak and thus you are asking for something thats not possible to be shown. TGH moving themselves to Gold didnt effect Gold but Moving THT and AA to Gold effects their own income. On top of that THT and AA had their own colors which they were controlling so moving them made 0 sense. Also another coincidence After EVH told TGH to get THT off and offered THT 500M to leave. AA then joins Gold too?

waiting for you guys to fight so I can sneaky raid you 😗

I would like to make it clear the problem isn’t TGH moving into Gold the problem is TGH moving there then telling their allies THT and AA to move over to tank their own color. TGH moving THT and AA is counter productive to themselves because it hurts their own income too. Now why would TGH want to tank their own income? Let’s see oh EVH is also on Gold well there’s your answer. The NAP stats both side will cease any hostilities between signatories for the duration of the nap. EVH went on Gold, TGH went on Gold, THT went on gold even after EVH told TGH not to tell THT to move over, so EVH tells THT to leave and then AA joins tanking the color even more. So the question is why would TGH want to move over to Gold and move THT AA over to gold too tanking their own income. While if they stayed at Yellow they would have a higher income? I rest my case your honour!

Statement from Spectre Command: Spectre is in full alignment with our allies in EVH, Spectre views TGH’s recent actions on the gold bloc as provocation and aggression which violates the mutual understandings underpinning our Non-Aggression Pact. Rather than honoring the principles of good faith diplomacy, TGH instead has deliberately undermined the gold bonus for nations by bringing along their low average score allies (THT, AA, etc). Let it be clear that Spectre views this move by TGH as a provocation that demands a firm response. Should EVH require support following the 5 day deadline, Spectre remains open and ready to assist our allies in defending them against any aggression or provocation.

It's Been A While... Hello Everyone. I'm sure a lot of you have forgotten who I am based on the fact I disappeared for almost a year now lmao. But I thought I make an official post to announce that I'm leaving the game (hopefully permanently). It's gonna be a very lengthy post so I highly advise that you get some popcorn and soda ready for this massive Wall Of Text. Why I'm Leaving To put it quite simply, I've made a lot of strides in my life since I started playing Politics and War almost 5 years ago. I graduated community college, moved out for the first time to live on my own, started attending university, made and lost a lot of friends along the way, and started to look inwards into the person I was, am now, and who I want to be. I still have a lot of work to do since I have a lot of issues with myself, but I know I'll get there. I realized how much computer science sucks in the job market, got back into doing theatre (with a lot of hot theatre chicks ), and even got kicked out of a few bars for drinking too much (but I got a lot of fun stories from those adventures). I've just been too busy with school and trying out new things in life as well as meeting new people and realizing how socially awkward I am kek. And I just don't have the time nor drive to continue playing this game anymore. Especially since I feel like it's begun to hold me back with my goals in life. Which sounds like a bad thing, but eventually every story has to have an ending, and this is mine. A Thank You To PNW When I started playing this game 5 years ago. I was working a crappy warehouse job that I hated, had no friends, didn't know what to do with my life, and thought I would never be happy. But eventually I found this game called Politics and War thanks to Drew Durnil (or whatever his name is). Since then I've figured out that I wanted to learn how to program and become a software engineer, learned how to be a freak in the sheets (that was my title when I first joined my university's ESports club when I became treasurer). Met a lot of amazing people who taught me many different things not only in-game, but in real life as well. And for the first time in my life, and I felt like that I was in a community that enjoyed my presence whether as an friend or enemy thanks to my awesome personality and even better memes. Despite the up's and down's I had in this game, I want to thank you @Alex for being a dumb high schooler who wanted to make a nation sim (I'm sure the $1000+ I spent on credits over the past 5 years will suffice). This game helped me during a dark time in my life and I'm sure it helped many others. So I hope that you continue working on this game for years to come until PHP finally becomes a dead language and you're forced to learn Javascript and react. Personal Shout outs @Abaddon For teaching me how to be a god at google sheets and always talking to me about life and what I should do with mine. @Sketchy For being a great alliance leader with a cunning mind and a aptitude for shit talking. @Tartarus For showing me that you can make amends with other people even when you feel like it's not possible @Chad For being a giga chad and always being there for your alliance even when life gets busy @Kevanovia For always being friendly towards me and showing genuine care for everyone you meet. I'm also sorry for always ignoring/declining your invites to play games with you. @DumpsterCan For always finding the weirdest ways to making me laugh. I honestly don't know how I feel about this one. @Uriah 'the Fox' For always being the chillest dude and telling about your adventures. @ Adam (Couldn't find your PNW forum tag !@#$) For being the little chaotic freak that you are and always being real about yourself and others. @ All of Guardian (If I had to shout out everyone of y'all, this would have to be multiple posts). But thank y'all for being a great alliance with a great community that's willing to accept anyone (as long as they meet the city requirements). Despite being a outsider not knowing anyone in there except @Kinns, you guys welcomed me with open arms, so thank y'all. Also @Vanek26 I do apologize but you're gonna have to postpone your retirement for at least a millennia. @Jordan For trusting me when I first joined the game to be your tech guy and dealing with my shenanigans when I first started this game. There is so many people I could thank but that list would be too long. So I do apologize if I didn't shout you out, I've just kind of gone thru a list of people who I felt made a huge impact in my time playing this game. This community is honestly so great and I've met a lot of people friend or foe who I enjoyed my time with. So I do apologize if your name didn't get shouted out but know that I appreciate everything that everyone has done for me. You can always harass me in dm's. My Final Message (Hopefully) If there is one thing I've learned in these past few years, is that life is short, people make mistakes, and you shouldn't let your past haunt you. How your life goes is up to you. We all start in different playing fields, some more advantageous than others. But you shouldn't that affect you or the person you wish to become. It may not end up exactly how you thought it would, but you shouldn't let your past haunt your future. There's a whole world to explore whether it's going out on a random day and meeting new people at university or playing a nation sim, don't be scared to go out there and try new things. But with that said, thank you politics and war for everything.

If the letter of the law argument is stupid, why are people advocating for all these additional conditionals to NAPs? Naps used to be a very cut and dry process. Arguing over the details of naps was not a widespread problem for most of this games history. It's only become a problem because people have consistently tried to shift or change the norms that had been established for years. It's really simple people. Either naps are "Don't hit each other under any circumstances" or naps are conditional, in which case they need to be specific in order be enforceable. I have been making this argument for what feels like almost 2 years at this point. People are being selective. You cannot adhere to the concept of the "spirit of the nap" when the fabric of trust has already been eroded due to consistently moving the goalposts on what the normative expectations of that spirit even is. The reality is, there is now a great deal of ambiguity in what constitutes a nap break. This entire argument between both sides proves as much. If there isn't a consensus on the basic foundations of what a nap is, then the only way for naps to work is for the details to be outlined clearly. What's more, everyone was given a rather clear opportunity to re-establish a standard and rather than doing so, further continued to situationalise and inject ambiguity. Many alliances have actively avoided the topic of re-establishing a normative standard, and the only logical conclusion I can draw from that is they prefer the ambiguity because they believe it gives them space to make up the rules as they see fit. Things like this used to be something called a CB. Alliances used to do the proper thing, wait until the NAP period is over, and then roll the offending alliance. In this particular case, all evidence would suggest that EVH is perfectly capable of rolling TGH at a later date for this offense, and it's very probable TGH will have absolutely no way to stop you. Choosing to roll them during a nap, is a blatant testing of whether you can get away with a loose definition of said nap. NAPs are not typical treaties. They are not, actually, mutually consensual agreements, in the same way a mutual defense treaty is for example. NAPs are always signed in a tense political state between two parties that typically have no reason to trust each other. Almost always, there is a direct power imbalance that allows one party to dictate the specifics of that agreement, and one party is often pressured to sign it under duress. Because of that, NAPs are rarely based on trust, and clarity is required for both parties to consent and for those agreements to be upheld. Once upon a time, that clarity existed in the general meta that everyone understood and accepted. Now that people have injected ambiguity into that process, the only way naps can work is for the letter of the law approach. This could be rectified, if the alliances of the game came together, and established and agreed upon a new standard. But until that happens, and I find it unlikely that it will, the letter of the law approach is the only approach that can work. Luckily for you perhaps, it seems that even if a nap is breached, the enforcement mechanism for how that is dealt with is no longer agreed upon either. So I expect naps as a meta will continue to erode before shattering completely before long. It will become harder and harder to enforce a standard that doesn't benefit a large portion of alliances, when it's not even being enforced in a way that protects those alliances. NAPs currently only benefit people who are already in positions of strength.

Swapping colors isn’t aggression. We aren’t going to militerize, because we trust that you will honor your word that you signed on April 29th, 2025. Nowhere in that NAP agreement suggests we cannot switch colors at will. If you feel like us swapping to gold is aggressive, you are free to feel that way until August 27th. We won’t swap, not now, not ever. Do your worst, EVH.

Well now that Rose has said Camelot should not be "politically isolate" it must be the case.

This is great. I hope other AAs follow suit and make FA communications more transparent and visible to the general public.

Lets me put this into perspective. Try this going to Orange. Let me know what TKR says. TKR didn't want IRON on Orange when it was around for the same reason.

TGH’s deliberate actions to tank the gold color bonus are antagonistic and aimed at directly harming EVH’s economic interests. You can have your own opinion on the matter, but NAPs are not intended to offer protection while one party provokes the other. EVH has provided a clear and diplomatic path toward de-escalation by requesting that the alliances invited by TGH to tank the color bonus vacate the color.

Obviously the devs dropped the ball on this one. Clearly every AA needs its own unique color. So sad to see a basic function not be a thing in 2025.

Just as with Cam the Good faith diplomacy clause only kicks in once a nap break has occured. You claim it has occured so go find a diplomatic solution in good faith. BTW an ultimatum like EVH has done is not good faith diplomacy.

Our alliance is literally called The Golden Horde, if you don’t realize… My nation and offshore was one of the first 10 nations to join Gold (before EVH), within the hour the colors were announced. It should also be mentioned that TGH, EVH, and THT combined maintained the $175k max turn bonus. So this is not about anything more than attempting to assert dominance purely for sport on the part of EVH. We remain open to coexisting on the color, if EVH chooses to remain on gold, which was our stance from the beginning.

Idea 2 is a great idea. I disagree with anyone claiming this is killing politics, if anything it is reviving it. Building a coalition, forming alliances and spheres, and plotting is all part of politics that play a big part in wars and this mechanic will incentivize that. You can also still farm it out and still receive better income than you would by going to war up to a certain point but you shouldn’t be as rewarded as you are right now for avoiding wars while others fight and actually play the game.

Idea 1 is fine. Switching cost savings for an additional rebuy buff is more effective for players to understand. Idea 2 could be simplified by simply using a 30-day rolling model tied to a modifier on gross income. Example, nations get -0.25% per day of peace and +0.25% per day when completing wars. Thst would create a potential 107.5% cap and 92.5% low for daily gross income. Idea 3 is a bad idea. We already have issues of it being so easy as a raider to shave score and massively downdeclare with next to no infra to hit someone. Capping military at lower limits will actually cause additional downdeclaring potential. Cities and military should impact score the most because they really do dictate war strength. If you were worried about war costs, then just lessen the unit costs or revert them back to their previous values before research was added. I’m disappointed you haven’t mentioned anything about revamping the spying mechanics. That’s been something several threads and conversations have continued to take issue with. Just a few modifications to that system could make it much more effective.

Idea 2 - I like the idea of this, but in the current form this won't work. There's incentive to declare wars in-game, but no real incentive to actually do anything. If I declared on one arrgh nation every now and then, and worked with them to minimize damage, that'd work around this mechanic. To make the mechanic work, it'd have to be tied to damage in some form, so instead of 4 stagnation points due to an attrition war being declared and having no attacks, 4 stagnation points being awarded due to inflicting $40m in damages (arbitrary number) seems more effective. (Potentially not including loot, since otherwise it can be gamed? Though that might be rough for pirates.)

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Camelot Communiqué A Non-Aggression-Pact is a treaty like any other and if a term is broken that is a justification for withdrawal or retaliation. This is a common sense position because otherwise the terms of a Non-Aggression-Pact are worthless. There is however a more ambiguous sub-issue which we could formulate as "What constitutes aggression?" In our view hiring mercenaries to attack your opponents, mass spying your opponents, and trying to acquire their debts for the purpose of sabotage are forms of aggression. It appears that Event Horizon, Spectre, and Dark Star share our perspective on Non-Aggression-Pacts. They may have even broadened the definition of aggression to include indirect economic sabotage through color trade blocs. As the alliance which pioneered the modern color trade bloc term we find that reasonable. However, Event Horizon criticized us for our actions on the basis that we could not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that our opponents were acting aggressively. Suspicion and a 'balance of probabilities' based on publicly available evidence and dishonest statements by our opponent's were not sufficient. In our view Event Horizon raised the evidentiary standard in the eyes of the whole game and that negatively affected us. If Event Horizon is going to act consistently then it must provide a log of The Golden Horde, The High Table, or Antarctica stating outright that they are moving to Gold for the purpose of sabotaging their opponent's economy. Moving to a new color trade bloc by itself is not aggression. From what we have seen so far that evidence does not exist and therefore this is an unjustified breach of the Non-Aggression-Pact as per Event Horizon's own standards. Spectre and Darkstar did not raise the standard of evidence or criticize our actions and so in our view their actions are justified.

Don’t tease me with a good time now. Imagine dictating another alliance and them not listening.

You guys are so stupid with this PoV. I would consider EVH or Spectre or anyone hitting anyone in the NAP over color blocs to be in violation of the NAP

(1) Upon reaching out to y'all, you denied having any desire to move from Yellow to Gold. This was then flipped to "we're on Gold now, deal with it" essentially. At this point @Kastor fricking up and then trying to spinning things differently any which way is his standard procedure, which I am more than happy to showcase again, if it's necessary. (2) Correct, they're not backstabbers and liars, you are. (3) As Kastor said, we're not required to work with you. We don't trust, you. We don't like you. And that's fine, but to add insult to injury, you tanked our bonus Bloc. That's where we draw the line. (4) Right... so you're telling me the same TGH &Co who was party to Darkest Hour Deux, arguably one of the biggest dogpiles in recent times, wheels around and plays the victim? A tad hypocritical don't you think? Conversely, we were very fair in the revenge war against you. (5) So, the facts are the matter will not change. AA, THT, and others being on there tank our Bloc. This seems to me like a fairly clear provocation from people who clearly have an allegiance to TGH and moved at your behest, regardless if "you're" not the direct offender. For instance, addressing your "Oh you hit me, NAP violation" you're apparently TGH's offshore, but also an Extension of The High Table? Let's have a look at the evidence! Respectfully, I don't think anyone can really blame our Milcom boys on that one. If it looks, talks and acts like a THT, maybe it is one?

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Honestly if this wasn't such a blatant situation where TGH was trying to abuse a NAP to wage unconventional warfare against EVH and provoke them over it, I'd be way more sympathetic. This almost feels like a manufactured situation where TGH wanted to put yet another NAP to the test.

Considering the NAPs only clause on color blocks was "All alliances go back to their pre-war color blocs" and doesn't mention anything about switching to new color blocs later on I fail to see how that's a NAP breach. If they moved to your previous color bloc before gold was introduced into the game that I could see. but this just seems excessive, could be viewed as aggressive sure but not enough to warrent this kind of response. Don't get me wrong I see where Event Horizon is coming from and I'm not siding with The Golden Horde of all alliances but I feel like this could've been handled better.

I think something many new players expect from a nation simulator is to have to make daily decisions for their nations. Some of the ideas above that encourage daily activity just seem too complex and are likely to overwhelm new players. And some still don't require regular action aside from logging in and mindlessly clicking a button. How about a feature where you have to make a 'political' choice each day. You could be given a random choice of two or three to pick from. Political/leader actions could include: Attend a military parade (+10% troops can be purchased today) Open a new national bank (+3% commerce today) Meet with your chief of intelligence (+1 spy can be recruited today) Open a new factory (+3% resource production today) Implement rations (-25% food consumption today) Host a sports event (+15% income from stadiums today) Give a paid appearance ($1,000,000 added to your nation) Meet with arms dealers (50 uranium and 200 munitions added to your nation) Attend a climate conference (-50 pollution in all cities today) Build a new bunker (-5% radiation today) Meet with your chief of agriculture (10,000 food added to your nation) Depending on how easy it is to code, you could change some of the modifiers. You could make the options change depending on whether a nation is at war or has no active wars, or just leave the options that appear totally random. This list could easily be expanded. This would give every player the chance to benefit by logging in daily, as otherwise they would get none of these benefits. Offering just a few random options prevents just one becoming a meta. Plus different options would benefit farmers, raiders, those are war, those producing manus, etc. I suppose it's a more interactive version of the current nation policies and a much more interactive version than a login bonus. But it also gives players the feeling they are a 'leader making political choices for their nation' (especially if the choices have pictures with them... now we're talking!) I'd be interested in hearing what people think of this...

I really like this idea. Very importantly it takes into account all alliances / nations with the new resource, making it a level playing field that no one has figured out yet. The RNG event system makes it fun and the bonuses means varied / variable city builds that are more player focused. I know it’s not feasible to have these types of updates too frequently but having a new system like this once in a blue moon promotes engagement with the game as the older mechanics are pretty much solved and figured out.

well, at least it's fun..

This issue was handled privately, with Shadow Valley, and reps were sent. Diplomacy was already had between parties and this action was taken out regardless of dialogue and without any private touching base of Spectre. Just since it’s public and all.

Agreed, this is what P&W should be anyway. Tired of the drunken bar fights in the dark with no real reason.

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