PERKS!

[Moreau]

Sheppy ily,you finally are going to add chemical weapons

And all the perks look awsome

But to make war even more intresting i say add defensive improvements

o/ saruman

Edited December 5, 2015 by Moreau III

[Moreau]

There is no defensive/offensive specification in your ideas there. Beyond that I don't think they'd do what you want so here are some of my ideas.

 

Trench System: Halves the strength of attacking soldiers and tanks. Disabled when the attacker makes a ground attack (that will likely fail) or the defender launches a ground attack themselves.

Aerial Defense: When the attacker declares, the game simulates the defender's airforce attacking the attacker's soldiers, tanks, and ships (ignoring their defending planes).

No Fly Zone: If the declarer has less planes than the defender's + 180 (two cities airbases full) then they cannot launch air attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Mechanized Defense: If the declarer has less tanks than the defender's + 2500 (two cities factories full) then they cannot launch ground attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Blockade Breakers: If the declarer has less ships than the defender's + 30 (two cities shipyards full) then they cannot launch naval attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

 

 

 

Just make the two perks sets separate then.

This also sounds awsome

Sheepy pls

[seabasstion]

Will there be any perks like city walls or something that would give an offline nation some form of hardening in the works at some point?

 

Aside from radio comms which will be a default selection, these all seem designed to give the attacking nation even more of an advantage

[Vosunda]

Basically in my opinion,

 

Add defensive and economic perks.

 

Also nukes should have some kind of perk, maybe EMP or something. Perhaps something that disables the beige timer for them or makes them do more damage. Maybe perks that instead of doing massive infra damage to one city, could spread lesser damage out over several, or a perk that could damage military units instead of infra. And make them more expensive, of course.

 

Overall, I think this is a good start, but at its current state will just keep war completely in the advantage of the attacker, which is its main problem in my opinion. Foxfire is right, the politics drive war, grudges will be made, tensions will rise and war will happen, and war -should- be destructive, not rewarding.

 

EDIT:

What about spy perks, too?

Edited December 5, 2015 by Vosunda

[Chapsie]

 

There is no defensive/offensive specification in your ideas there. Beyond that I don't think they'd do what you want so here are some of my ideas.

 

Trench System: Halves the strength of attacking soldiers and tanks. Disabled when the attacker makes a ground attack (that will likely fail) or the defender launches a ground attack themselves.

Aerial Defense: When the attacker declares, the game simulates the defender's airforce attacking the attacker's soldiers, tanks, and ships (ignoring their defending planes).

No Fly Zone: If the declarer has less planes than the defender's + 180 (two cities airbases full) then they cannot launch air attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Mechanized Defense: If the declarer has less tanks than the defender's + 2500 (two cities factories full) then they cannot launch ground attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Blockade Breakers: If the declarer has less ships than the defender's + 30 (two cities shipyards full) then they cannot launch naval attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

 

 

Just make the two perks sets separate then.

 

 

I like these, gives a defensive nation a chance to actually react to an already powerful raider which may equal the situation out assuming the person logs on in that time bracket.

[Abu Haddad]

This game is like the real world. Lie to the citizens and do the heck you want

[Peter Quill]

This game is like the real world. Lie to the citizens and do the heck you want

0/10 shit-post.

[Azaghul]

 

There is no defensive/offensive specification in your ideas there. Beyond that I don't think they'd do what you want so here are some of my ideas.

 

Trench System: Halves the strength of attacking soldiers and tanks. Disabled when the attacker makes a ground attack (that will likely fail) or the defender launches a ground attack themselves.

Aerial Defense: When the attacker declares, the game simulates the defender's airforce attacking the attacker's soldiers, tanks, and ships (ignoring their defending planes).

No Fly Zone: If the declarer has less planes than the defender's + 180 (two cities airbases full) then they cannot launch air attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Mechanized Defense: If the declarer has less tanks than the defender's + 2500 (two cities factories full) then they cannot launch ground attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Blockade Breakers: If the declarer has less ships than the defender's + 30 (two cities shipyards full) then they cannot launch naval attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

I like the general idea of defense oriented perks.

 

Instead of trenches weakening the attacker by 50% (which is overpowered), perhaps a perk that makes it harder to establish ground control?

 

Two perks, one that makes it harder for attackers to establish ground control, and another that makes it harder for attackers to establish air control, would be a nice addition.

 

Just make the two perks sets separate then.

 

That would work.

[Moreau]

I'm sure sheppy will update the perk system reguarly when it comes out so no worries

[Dimitri Valko]

I'm sure sheppy will update the perk system reguarly when it comes out so no worries

 

Honestly, I doubt it.

[Abu Haddad]

He must and there will always be a wild pack in the game to cause war so there will always be war

[Nadir Aminu]

I'm sure sheppy will update the perk system reguarly when it comes out so no worries

Yeah, it will only take another 6 months...

[Rozalia]

I like the general idea of defense oriented perks.

 

Instead of trenches weakening the attacker by 50% (which is overpowered), perhaps a perk that makes it harder to establish ground control?

 

Two perks, one that makes it harder for attackers to establish ground control, and another that makes it harder for attackers to establish air control, would be a nice addition.

 

That would work.

 

It's powerful but only works for the initial attack and thinking on it, can be gamed by the attacker sending a meager force (as they initial force being reduced by 50% of it's strength is bound to lose unless the difference in strength is absolutely gigantic). Still it would waste 3 of their points at least and the exploit can be fixed by forcing the attacker to use their full force in their first attack.

 

Making it harder to establish ground/air control is easy enough. Instead of requiring one immense victory to gain control just make it take two for example, or three if you want to make it even harder. 

You could also have perks to reduce the effectiveness of ground/air control by 50%, either in one package or spread out among two perks. 

[Abu Haddad]

There should be concessions on using perks

[Moreau]

Also what happend to the first strike project? Is it still in the test server i'm to lazy to check

[Moreau]

Foxfire you pixel hugger just deal with it.gif

The radio comms are awsome

[Hooves]

 

There is no defensive/offensive specification in your ideas there. Beyond that I don't think they'd do what you want so here are some of my ideas.

 

Trench System: Halves the strength of attacking soldiers and tanks. Disabled when the attacker makes a ground attack (that will likely fail) or the defender launches a ground attack themselves.

Aerial Defense: When the attacker declares, the game simulates the defender's airforce attacking the attacker's soldiers, tanks, and ships (ignoring their defending planes).

No Fly Zone: If the declarer has less planes than the defender's + 180 (two cities airbases full) then they cannot launch air attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Mechanized Defense: If the declarer has less tanks than the defender's + 2500 (two cities factories full) then they cannot launch ground attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Blockade Breakers: If the declarer has less ships than the defender's + 30 (two cities shipyards full) then they cannot launch naval attacks for 6 turns (12 hours)

Well it was just something that popped up in my mind. So it was bound to not work out so well.

 

I do like what you're planning here. If you invest in these perks, you're taking out some of the 8 you're limited to. It gives the players some time to at least be offline instead of changing war mechanics to be a daily attack system thing like in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways). Besides, the attacker still gets more MAP for when the defense timers run out. I can't fully commit to supporting your idea at the most, but it's definitely a great path of thinking.

Edited December 5, 2015 by Hooves

[Fox Fire]

I'm sure sheppy will update the perk system reguarly when it comes out so no worries

Which would be stupid. The mechanics of this game should at least try to be consistent. Constantly changing them is annoying as !@#$.

[Atzuya]

These perks haven't been implemented or even finalized yet. Let's not rush Sheepy too much.

 

Also what happend to the first strike project? Is it still in the test server i'm to lazy to check

It's been removed

[Moreau]

Which would be stupid. The mechanics of this game should at least try to be consistent. Constantly changing them is annoying as !@#$.

Maybe because of how salty you become if the attacker gets an bonus

[WISD0MTREE]

Raiding is not the same thing as a full blown alliance war. It can turn into one, but 99% of the time does not. I don't even need to explain that.

You said "fighting," not alliance warfare. 

 

fight

verb \ˈfÄ«t\

: to use weapons or physical force to try to hurt someone, to defeat an enemy, etc. : to struggle in battle or physical combat

: to be involved in (a battle, struggle, etc.)

: to argue in an angry way

[Alex]

Wow, there's a lot of anti-perk sentiment here. Maybe I'll just scrap this idea.

[Kastor]

I'm not sure what everyone is so excited about. This is Sheepy's usual "3 month" thing that Perks are "on the way".

 

We may see these next summer, at best.

[Hooves]

Wow, there's a lot of anti-perk sentiment here. Maybe I'll just scrap this idea.

I actually do hope that's sarcasm... I'm not very good at picking those up

Edited December 6, 2015 by Hooves

[Chapsie]

I personally like the idea, just needs a little more Offence/defense balancing.