Atzuya Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Not defending this treaty (I still think this is way too sudden, like really...), but mind you everyone have different ideas on what is fun and isn't. If your idea of fun is total warfare, then by all means you're welcome to do so. E: ninja'd =.= Edited October 14, 2015 by Atzuya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 One of the possibilities of this is the only thing keeping me not disliking this. Fingers crossed and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I can't believe this happened. Nice job VE. 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diocletian Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 This treaty is overkill. Where is the fun, I ask you? There isn't any. What will Mensa do without UPN to hide behind the next time they go off and start shit? There is plenty. Quote "The happiness of the people, and the peace of the empire, and the glory of the reign are linked with the fortune of the Army." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 What will Mensa do without UPN to hide behind the next time they go off and start shit? There is plenty. Interesting. 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 What will Mensa do without UPN to hide behind the next time they go off and start shit? There is plenty. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 This was totally contrary to expectations. I thought Mensa+UPN would have rerolled VE as the most likely outcome, Mensa + VE would have rolled UPN as the second most likely outcome, and VE + UPN would have rolled Mensa has the third most likely outcome. The rationale would have been that VE would have preferred UPN rolled once before forming a formal treaty, because UPN's passivity makes it questionable as a hegemonic leader, which is its status in the present game. At the present rate, Mensa remains tied to UPN directly, so none of these outcomes are probable, Synd and Arrrgh are instead vulnerable on the treaty web? That said, hegemonies are inevitable. Games like these spend some of their time in hegemonic structures, some of their time in anarchic structures. PnW has spent too much time in anarchy and structures that represent meta-stability, now formal stability must arise. Let's see where the new top 5 grouping leads us, as well as how long it'll last. Quote . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Don Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Interesting...and as with just about any other event, as a good Farker... I'll drink to that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 This was totally contrary to expectations. I thought Mensa+UPN would have rerolled VE as the most likely outcome, Mensa + VE would have rolled UPN as the second most likely outcome, and VE + UPN would have rolled Mensa has the third most likely outcome. The rationale would have been that VE would have preferred UPN rolled once before forming a formal treaty, because UPN's passivity makes it questionable as a hegemonic leader, which is its status in the present game. At the present rate, Mensa remains tied to UPN directly, so none of these outcomes are probable, Synd and Arrrgh are instead vulnerable on the treaty web? That said, hegemonies are inevitable. Games like these spend some of their time in hegemonic structures, some of their time in anarchic structures. PnW has spent too much time in anarchy and structures that represent meta-stability, now formal stability must arise. Let's see where the new top 5 grouping leads us, as well as how long it'll last. lolwut? Tbh, I'm surprised that people are surprised. UPN gov has made it no secret that they like VE nor vice versa. If anything, people should be surprised it's taken this long. 1 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblige Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Congrats to both parties Condolences to Mensa HQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan77 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 How boring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Old man Hans o/ Quote If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a roll. There is one you will follow. One who is the shining star, and he will lead you to beautiful places in the search of his own vanity. And when there is no more vanity to be found, he will leave you in darkness, as a fading memory of his own creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Xun Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 So, amuse me, what are the odds of Mensa losing its treaty with UPN? 1 Quote . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vosunda Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 So, amuse me, what are the odds of Mensa losing its treaty with UPN? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 So, amuse me, what are the odds of Mensa losing its treaty with UPN? I don't amuse anyone, you exist to amuse me. Now dance, boy. 1 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Worst move I've seen in a while. So we have this 3 group structure that could make it interesting, I've an idea, let's merge two of the groups and go back to it being dull. Jesus christ. When you want something done right, do it yourself. Make a 3rd side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 "This has been a long time coming" No, it hasn't. This was a spur of the moment move of cowardice. VE, you have no honor. UPN, you have no honor. Dishonor on your cow, dishonor on this poorly-written treaty, and dishonor on you when both of you crumble when the rest of the world wakes and sees you for the cowards you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 So, amuse me, what are the odds of Mensa losing its treaty with UPN? Honestly it'd be a bad move. That would most definitely push UPN to VE's side if it happened. I won't lie, it was a good move on UPN's part, and what ever VE said to get it done? Well done. It really stirred up some activity. Now it's a tug-o-war with them between Mensa and VE. Can't really blame them. However, was this strictly done cause of Mensa? Seems we have a lot of attention too, which is weird considering we tend to draw attention when we shitpost a lot - which hasn't been done at all since the most recent war came to a conclusion. So that makes me wonder... My personal thoughts on the matter: Why would the #1 alliance treaty up with the #2 ( Or vice-versa? Depending on who initiated it )? It really does hurt the game having the membership powerhouses stuck together like that. It was more interesting with the trifecta of developing spheres. And honestly? I wouldn't mind if Mensa cut ties with UPN. It'd definitely make things more interesting for Mensa and give us more odds to battle against, which I personally love. The Great VE War was by far the most fun I've had in the game ( Granted the same can't be said for every one ). That is, if conflict occurs after this. I don't know, it's just strange. 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 "This has been a long time coming" No, it hasn't. This was a spur of the moment move of cowardice. VE, you have no honor. UPN, you have no honor. Dishonor on your cow, dishonor on this poorly-written treaty, and dishonor on you when both of you crumble when the rest of the world wakes and sees you for the cowards you are. I don't know who you are, but you certainly seem to know a lot about us, so kudos to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 lolwut? Tbh, I'm surprised that people are surprised. UPN gov has made it no secret that they like VE nor vice versa. If anything, people should be surprised it's taken this long. Seriously. We were friends before the Great VE War, and fighting alongside each other was a great experience, and UPN really stepped up for us. The relationship has been building to this point for a long time, and after months of getting close but not actually making it official, we are making it official. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I don't know who you are, but you certainly seem to know a lot about us, so kudos to you. I've known you and VE for a very, very long time, and as usual, your cowardice grows wherever it gets the chance to bloom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greatnate Posted October 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2015 Congrats guys, I wrote you a haiku to celebrate: an autumn breeze blows, stacks of paper susurrus, whispering dead game. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Glad to see this finally get posted. You two look great together! Edited October 14, 2015 by Isolatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) And honestly? I wouldn't mind if Mensa cut ties with UPN. It'd definitely make things more interesting for Mensa and give us more odds to battle against, which I personally love. The Great VE War was by far the most fun I've had in the game ( Granted the same can't be said for every one ). That is, if conflict occurs after this. I don't know, it's just strange. Being honest, I expect Mensa to cut ties. I'm just sitting back and watching to see if my theory is right. Edit: Was uneducated on the existing treaty. Edited October 14, 2015 by Ashwyn Traverse Quote -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seabasstion Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Article VI If times do come when either one will fly or flee from other, then we will wait three moons and depart as friends depending on what your definition of 'moon' as a unit of time is...does this mean you need three days before you can break this off or 90 days? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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