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Before this is randomly locked for a vague reason:
"Moderation Support: Forum name change requests, thread locks, etc. Questions regarding forum and game rules."

 

Moderators, why are you so heavy-handed with enforcing forum rules?

 

Why do you remove & lock discussions the community is fine with taking place?

 

Why do you believe you can enforce censorship when it is not asked for?

 

Why don't you sit back and only intervene when necessary?

 

Why do you only selectively enforce forum rules?

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Also -- since I suspect this thread *would* be locked for calling out moderators:
 

I'm not calling anybody out. Merely asking important questions that should be addressed for the health of the forum as a whole.

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We've had this issue for awhile, and the answer is that Sheepy just has a poor judgement in character when electing these mods. The positive is that whenever I have had mod bias directed towards me, talking to Sheepy helped a lot. As for the general power trip they seem to have -- I don't think this is going to change anytime soon.

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We've had this issue for awhile, and the answer is that Sheepy just has a poor judgement in character when electing these mods. The positive is that whenever I have had mod bias directed towards me, talking to Sheepy helped a lot. As for the general power trip they seem to have -- I don't think this is going to change anytime soon.

I concur. You will likely get a warning point for this so future reference, message sheepy directly to talk about this.

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Moderators, why are you so heavy-handed with enforcing forum rules?

 

Why do you only selectively enforce forum rules?

This pair of questions is difficult to answer because they are somewhat contradictory. Some rule violations go unpunished because they escape moderator notice. We have a small moderation staff and each moderator cannot read every post on the forums. We rely a lot on community reports to draw our attention to areas that need review. The rules also give us some discretion with respect to a lot of the rules, so we make judgment calls about particular posts and issue a warn when we determine it is necessary. I don't believe we are heavy-handed, but if you have a particular example in mind, by all means bring it up with us in private.

Why do you remove & lock discussions the community is fine with taking place?

Because the community doesn't make the Forum Rules - Sheepy does.

Why do you believe you can enforce censorship when it is not asked for?

To the extent that restricting the freedom of account-holders to create whatever content they choose on a private forum is "censorship," we believe we can enforce censorship because the Forum Rules establish what is and is not permissible, and each and every account-holder accepted the Forum Rules by joining the site.

Why don't you sit back and only intervene when necessary?

We do. But to answer the real question you're asking, "Why don't you sit back and only intervene when I think it's necessary?" the answer is simple. Because Sheepy, not Syrup, makes the Forum Rules, and it is Sheepy, not Syrup, to whom we are answerable.

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Unless there's specific recent examples of power abuse or the like that I missed, I really don't see our current moderation team as abusive. P&W has gone through a few major cases of moderation abuse in the past, and trust me - the current atmosphere hardly compares.

 

Until you lay out a clear issue, you won't see me picking up my pitchfork and torch any time soon.

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Unless there's specific recent examples of power abuse or the like that I missed, I really don't see our current moderation team as abusive. P&W has gone through a few major cases of moderation abuse in the past, and trust me - the current atmosphere hardly compares.

 

Until you lay out a clear issue, you won't see me picking up my pitchfork and torch any time soon.

I think he's trying to get at the ASCII art and the hentai thread. However, both instances were clearly in violation of the forum rules and the mods, if anything, were to slow to act.

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I think he's trying to get at the ASCII art and the hentai thread. However, both instances were clearly in violation of the forum rules and the mods, if anything, were to slow to act.

 

it wasent hentai. you should stop saying taht it was

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it wasent hentai. you should stop saying taht it was

 

Good thing for you, you don't have to make that judgement call. The moderation staff does, and they did. Don't like it? Address the specific rule with Sheepy, attacking the mod staff because threads were breaking the rules is just plain silly. 

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To me it looks like the mod staff are just enforcing the lily white, Bible belt values that Sheepy has asked them to enforce. I'm not sure we can blame them for that. The forum generally works well, from what I've seen over the last month or two. #notallforums can be as anything goes as eusaforums. No one cares anymore, but for years the environment on that forum was labeled toxic and cited as a reason for many people not using it. 

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To me it looks like the mod staff are just enforcing the lily white, Bible belt values that Sheepy has asked them to enforce. I'm not sure we can blame them for that. The forum generally works well, from what I've seen over the last month or two. #notallforums can be as anything goes as eusaforums. No one cares anymore, but for years the environment on that forum was labeled toxic and cited as a reason for many people not using it. 

 

Still is, for those who give a damn.  Everyone else moved on and make use of the eusaforums for actual purposes other than !@#$ing.

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it wasent hentai. you should stop saying taht it was

Shitty spelling is my trigger, be more considerate of others, shitlord.
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I am usually the first one to call out crappy moderation, but I've not had any major issues with this mod team. There have been much worse. Overall, I can live with them just fine.

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I suggest all the people who thought that was thread Hentai to google hentai and tell me what you see and from there we can establish if you saw any Hentai in that thread.

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Ecchi, hentai, it's all in exist the same vein only differentiated by how 'frontal' they are in representation. They are still porn. This is almost like asking the mod team to put up with third reich symbols and photos as long as they are covered enough.

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Yeah no clothed women that don't have their tits or vagina visible isn't porn, just look at all the real life incidents.

We have barely clothed women everywhere we look in magazines, TV and just about any image with an attractive women. 

Just because you don't like it calling it Porn seems ignorant as that would make everyone we know pornstars and whores for the way they dress.

 

Think about what you're saying, you're comparing women to the third reich symbols

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Really? =_(\

 

I'm putting in the third reich as a comparison with porn material because 1) both are forbidden, 2) both appears quite frequently in this site despite the case. You people seem to have a strange fixation on anything the mods say not to do inb4 bwaaaaa atzuya is kissing mods asses again

 

A picture can still be deemed as a porn even if all figures depicted in it are fully clothed. Arousing themes while staying away from the usual nekkid trope is pretty much the entire point of Ecchi, and that's what you are trying to defend at this point. There is a very clear line between simply attractive and barely-disguised hentai, and frankly Death's thread (and any sequels it got) have passed that line so long time ago.

 

Just because you see it all the time on magazines sold publicly does not mean it should be okay on a PG-13 forum, though to be fair at this point I started to doubt if this forum is even PG-13 anymore looking from all things posted here daily.

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My question is why does anyone even want this [email protected]#$ here? This is a forum for a specific game, go post your anime [email protected]#$ somewhere else

They think they're entitled to do what they want on a privately owned forum for whatever reason.
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TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea.

On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said:
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Good thing Mensa HQ is here to uphold the rules and integrity of the game, having such a rich history and background in the Politics and War community.

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Good thing Mensa HQ is here to uphold the rules and integrity of the game, having such a rich history and background in the Politics and War community.

 

Hey dillweed, we're not a !@#$ing monolith.  I could give a rat's ass about this issue.  I'm here for the comments.  Syrup doesn't speak for Mensa HQ.  Stop conflating the two.

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