Popular Post Aksel Posted November 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2019 An actual discussion. Mostly because I want to laugh at your posts, but I'd like to see some solid argument as to why it would be appropriate to essentially suspend someone from posting because their nation is in vacation mode. My stance: 0 Fricks 2 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artifex Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Because if I can't extort people and bully them by holding the continued existence of their nation over their heads, I feel like less of a man. 6 Quote Love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 because if it wasn't for the arbitrary suspensions, would the mod team even do anything? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raphael Posted November 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) It's definitely a grey area that's been abused in the past to avoid "no matching nation" warns. People create a nation and then go into VM for years just troll the forums. I think a good compromise would be that you can't post things in the in-character forums but you can still read them if you're in VM. I generally agree that discussions shouldn't always resort to "well if you say this then you'll be rolled" but that should be a culturally enforced thing by the playerbase. VM shouldn't serve as a "safe space" for active players to hide until their attackers lose interest. At the end of the day, these are forums for a game - if you're not actually playing the game then... I don't want you in the in-character portions (at least). Edited November 14, 2019 by Bartholomew Roberts 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critters Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Vacation mode should extend to the forums. Quote The Redneck Caliphate of Forrest's Critters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveth Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) There is no solid arguement as far as I can see in favour of relating the forums to the status of a nation, seen as a ban here on the forums doesn't affect the game. Edited November 14, 2019 by Daveth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Storm Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 If you're gonna talk shit, you should be able to get hit. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Epi Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 1 Edited February 17, 2021 by Epi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaspoon Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Hiding behind vacation mode to avoid the consequences for shitty smacktalk is pretty cowardly and sad, tbh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mad Max said: An actual discussion. Mostly because I want to laugh at your posts, but I'd like to see some solid argument as to why it would be appropriate to essentially suspend someone from posting because their nation is in vacation mode. My stance: 0 Fricks On paper, it's not terrible. In practice, you get a lot of trolls. We've seen it happen from time and time again. People go in VM, troll the boards, go silent, then go back into activity after people have forgotten. (Don't take this reply as me wanting to suspend people from posting. It's just explaining it.) Edited November 14, 2019 by Buorhann 2 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Valid User Name Posted November 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2019 I agree that it should extend to the forums. The point of vacation mode is to suspend your nation's activity because you can't reasonably get to a computer during that time frame. Logically, if you're able to post, you're able to play and are therefore misusing it. 7 3 Quote Feeding the alliance, one conquest at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendell Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 @Mad Max That poll was directed at me. I'm on vacation mode and nobody likes my polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Deulos said: @Mad Max That poll was directed at me. I'm on vacation mode and nobody likes my polls. That's not what 'Whitelisting' means, by the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I've never gone into VM until this war, and I've stayed relatively quiet until recently on the forums because of it. However, and this is my selfish take, I am in VM because this game has become toxic and I no longer find it fun because of this war. I've dedicated a lot of time to this game, building my nation and relationships, so I am invested in giving it my best shot to try and make it fun again before I delete permanently. The only way to do that is to engage on the forums. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Hodor said: I'm only going to vm now because this is totes def the first time the game has been toxic and not because I'm a sore loser 1 1 7 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Hodor: I am cynical about the game but hope it could one day be less toxic. A fleeting dream, but one I yet hold onto Malal: lol ur mom fat 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Curufinwe Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Hodor said: I've never gone into VM until this war, and I've stayed relatively quiet until recently on the forums because of it. However, and this is my selfish take, I am in VM because this game has become toxic and I no longer find it fun because of this war. I've dedicated a lot of time to this game, building my nation and relationships, so I am invested in giving it my best shot to try and make it fun again before I delete permanently. The only way to do that is to engage on the forums. TLDR: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Curufinwe said: TLDR: Big talk from an alliance that shields their membership from the OWF ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Smith said: Hodor: I am cynical about the game but hope it could one day be less toxic. A fleeting dream, but one I yet hold onto Malal: lol ur mom fat Your side of the game has been super toxic since day 1 and driven out large numbers of people who didn't want to deal with you. It's a big part of the reason that very few people from our side of the game use the owf; because we got sick and tired of you years ago. You're only complaining about toxicity now because you got completly stomped in a war and want to rail against us and the only way you know how is to !@#$ and moan on the OWF. 4 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Curufinwe Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith said: Big talk from an alliance that shields their membership from the OWF ? Actually, every new BK member is required to register on the OWF as part of our orientation program and that requirement has been in place since late 2016. Many people don't post (or read it regularly) but we certainly don't hide its existence from them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Malal said: Your side of the game has been super toxic since day 1 and driven out large numbers of people who didn't want to deal with you. It's a big part of the reason that very few people from our side of the game use the owf; because we got sick and tired of you years ago. You're only complaining about toxicity now because you got completly stomped in a war and want to rail against us and the only way you know how is to !@#$ and moan on the OWF. You're right, the best thing to do after suffering from toxicity is to be as toxic as possible yourself. I'd also argue there are different kinds of toxicity. Before this there was a never a war where the opposing side so clearly was trying to drag the war out as long as possible in an effort to bully as many people from the game as possible. Just now, Curufinwe said: Actually, every new BK member is required to register on the OWF as part of our orientation program and that requirement has been in place since late 2016. Many people don't post (or read it regularly) but we certainly don't hide its existence from them ? Oh really? That's actually a good program/idea. Might have to suggest that for ourselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Forum Fighters approve the current situation, we encourage the use of the forum even in vacation mode because forums are love, forums are life Forum Fighters aslo agree that Malal's mom is very fat 45 minutes ago, Curufinwe said: Actually, every new BK member is required to register on the OWF as part of our orientation program and that requirement has been in place since late 2016. Many people don't post (or read it regularly) but we certainly don't hide its existence from them ? So you can orientate their votes at the end of the year even on things they never heard of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Smith said: You're right, the best thing to do after suffering from toxicity is to be as toxic as possible yourself. I'd also argue there are different kinds of toxicity. Before this there was a never a war where the opposing side so clearly was trying to drag the war out as long as possible in an effort to bully as many people from the game as possible. . If you think not offering white peace on the first round is bullying people out of the game then, again, you've been bullying us since day 1. Your side didn't want to even begin the surrender negotiations until this month and even now are litterally stalling lmfao. Daily reminder that when things get heated in the negotiations and we propse a 24hr break to cool down we're litterally shitler and killing the game. But when ketog/chaos/rose/etc. take 4 days to get back with us on a term it's our fault for giving them a term they don't like. Goddamn the spin is garbage and you should feel bad for attempting it. 1 1 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smith Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Malal said: If you think not offering white peace on the first round is bullying people out of the game then, again, you've been bullying us since day 1. Your side didn't want to even begin the surrender negotiations until this month and even now are litterally stalling lmfao. Daily reminder that when things get heated in the negotiations and we propse a 24hr break to cool down we're litterally shitler and killing the game. But when ketog/chaos/rose/etc. take 4 days to get back with us on a term it's our fault for giving them a term they don't like. Goddamn the spin is garbage and you should feel bad for attempting it. The last time TKR was in a coalition that gave peace terms to IQ we simply asked for a surrender. If I remember correctly your side complained and then requested we add in a term saying you "fought hard". Here is a link: In those talks we also did not intentionally drag them out by proposing terms one at a time. We did it in a quick way like every other major war has seen before this one (at least since I've played). What a coincidence you change the style of negotiations to a much slower format now after the war has already been dragging on for over 6 months. Edited November 14, 2019 by Smith 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaspoon Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Deulos said: @Mad Max That poll was directed at me. I'm on vacation mode and nobody likes my polls. It's not just your polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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