A debate against left wing

[Miles Dyson]

He also tried to wipe out my grandfather's entire family when he seized control, just for being possibly questionably loyal to his opposition. He succeeded in killing off my great-grandparents and two of my great-uncles.(this was the man I called Grandpa, though not by blood, yet he adopted my mother after my actual grandfather died)

 

Yea, screw Franco.

[Mutsuo Toi]

Of course you think he can "debate" properly, he just spams bad memes like you do. I almost thought he was your multi.

 

  Tell me, which memes did I spammed in this forum?

[Peter Quill]

  Tell me, which memes did I spammed in this forum?

Those God-awful and often-incorrect pictures.

[Mutsuo Toi]

Those God-awful and often-incorrect pictures.

 

  You must be misunderstood between forced meme and political incorrect. Maybe you are really that numb to understand what's force meme actually mean, real numb that you're actually call every truth about left wing is a force meme, and numb enough you're volunteering to join the left wing blood sucker cuckold just to torture yourself with starvation, I bet a million you're masochist.

 

  Are you even trying to make a serious opinion? Or you just acting like a total dumbass called everything against your ideals as a force meme.

 

  Oh, friendly reminder that if the United States had gone socialist, you wouldn't be here open your mouth about political ideal.

 

Enjoy your home at Gulag, comrade!

Edited January 20, 2016 by lizard noob

[Peter Quill]

And the stupidity never ends!

(Also, I hate communism, FYI.)

[Mutsuo Toi]

And the stupidity never ends!

(Also, I hate communism, FYI.)

 

 And it will never end when you're continuously losing your freedom of mind, mindlessly listen to some liberal professor in the social class.

 

Sayy.... Can you define Thief? 

Edited January 20, 2016 by lizard noob

[Franz Von Dietrich]

 And it will never end when you're continuously losing your freedom of mind, mindlessly listen to some liberal professor in the social class.

 

Sayy.... Can you define Thief? 

Liberalism invokes the image of freedom, not take it away.

[Mutsuo Toi]

Liberalism invokes the image of freedom, not take it away.

 

 Liberalism are not actually invoke the image of freedom, It's like socialism but with free speeches and the taxes bit more lower than socialist, communism combine.

Edited January 20, 2016 by lizard noob

[Lannan13]

Leftist said, every human is equal, rich man need to be taxes, there will be no middle classes, the worker is a true unique class, the middle class oppress the worker,etc...

 

But the leftist didn't know the middle class live in his own blood, not in the other blood. Every political left wing think otherwise, they thought living in the other person blood is a moral action only for the worker. Basically they make the worker himself become a true oppressor of the every man in world want to work for them by put every kind of morality piece of shit into his mind instead letting him fight for his own life.

 

Left wing is a leech like political, the only political that legalize thief and make benefit illegal.

 

Let's hope you communist lefties aren't actually support left wing for "the good of the people"

 

I hope you support communist because you want to be rich for yourself as a leader only, because at least you have a true reason to make yourself happy and laugh at the slave volunteer who ready to give you money for nothing.

 

SAY HI TO YOUR FUTURE LEADER! MY COMRADE!

 

 

(inb4 liberal will call me a nazi scum, bourgeoisie pig)

(inb4 muh soviet kickass nationalist socialist)

False, if you have even read the Communist Manifesto you'll see that it does not call for a totalitarian government, but an Anarcho-Communist society. 

[Mutsuo Toi]

False, if you have even read the Communist Manifesto you'll see that it does not call for a totalitarian government, but an Anarcho-Communist society. 

 

 I don't think the book speak the truth. In fact you're already know in the communist state of Soviet Union weren't actually "Anarcho" right?

Edited January 20, 2016 by lizard noob

[Vassili Dovgan]

 I don't think the book speak the truth. In fact you're already know in the communist state of Soviet Union weren't actually "Anarcho" right?

 

The USSR wasn't communist.

[Franz Von Dietrich]

 I don't think the book speak the truth. In fact you're already know in the communist state of Soviet Union weren't actually "Anarcho" right?

The Soviet Union wasn't a communist state, not even socialist. Under Stalin reign, it was a totalitarian society, employing state capitalist measures.

The USSR wasn't communist.

Agreed, but still was a horrible totalitarian state, that gave the rise of "Marxism-Leninism" (aka stalinism) in East Asia and Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and some parts of Africa.

[Tali]

The USSR wasn't communist.

The USSR was like a giant phone company

[Lannan13]

 I don't think the book speak the truth. In fact you're already know in the communist state of Soviet Union weren't actually "Anarcho" right?

They weren't "true" communists. In fact, Lenin admitted to altering Communism to have it fit to the Russian atmosphere from it's Marxist form.

The USSR wasn't communist.

They were Communist. Though they weren't Anarcho-Communistic, they were a form of Nationalist Communist.

[durmij]

  Tell me, which memes did I spammed in this forum?

 

Basically your entire graphic about motivation, and calling Bernie a "comrade" when he's barely an old school tax and spend soc-dem.

 

I mean, other capitalists in the thread are even saying this is shite.

[Chapsie]

I see it as people who work hard in laborious jobs, that normally (and do) get paid less than operate leaders. Less taxes on people that make less only makes total sense. Richer people will still be 100 times, or more rich than that man at the bottom, even with higher taxes. There is no punishment, only humanity. 

 

I like the idea of for each to his own, but a completely competent person that was born in an unfortunate situation will never gain his full potential without either a miracle, or a boost from the government in the form of applicable programs that need qualifications. Tax brackets are a good way to help the hard workers a little more rewarded (lower service, laborers, desk jobs, common soldiers. etc).

[Stormrideron]

Leftist said, every human is equal, rich man need to be taxes, there will be no middle classes, the worker is a true unique class, the middle class oppress the worker,etc...

 

But the leftist didn't know the middle class live in his own blood, not in the other blood. Every political left wing think otherwise, they thought living in the other person blood is a moral action only for the worker. Basically they make the worker himself become a true oppressor of the every man in world want to work for them by put every kind of morality piece of shit into his mind instead letting him fight for his own life.

 

Left wing is a leech like political, the only political that legalize thief and make benefit illegal.

 

Let's hope you communist lefties aren't actually support left wing for "the good of the people"

 

I hope you support communist because you want to be rich for yourself as a leader only, because at least you have a true reason to make yourself happy and laugh at the slave volunteer who ready to give you money for nothing.

 

SAY HI TO YOUR FUTURE LEADER! MY COMRADE!

 

 

(inb4 liberal will call me a nazi scum, bourgeoisie pig)

(inb4 muh soviet kickass nationalist socialist)

Lmfao, do you realize that Bernie Sanders focuses on what is called Economic Reform? It is just to raise minimum wage so the poor people will be able to afford food, shelter, education and have kids. Have more people get a job and weaken the Corporations power. Sure, have high tax rate on the rich people, they will still be making a heap of money and remain in the rich tier. With this economic reform, more people will be able to make their contributions as a part of the society and it will be use up for improvements and others federal programs.

 

Going socialism will solve alot of problems in United States for sure. People said this isn't possible, but United States had socialist presidents before and therefore, socialism must be possible.

Edited January 20, 2016 by Stormrideron

[Sailor Jerry]

Lmfao, do you realize that Bernie Sanders focuses on what is called Economic Reform? It is just to raise minimum wage so the poor people will be able to afford food, shelter, education and have kids. Have more people get a job and weaken the Corporations power. Sure, have high tax rate on the rich people, they will still be making a heap of money and remain in the rich tier. With this economic reform, more people will be able to make their contributions as a part of the society and it will be use up for improvements and others federal programs.

 

Going socialism will solve alot of problems in United States for sure. People said this isn't possible, but United States had socialist presidents before and therefore, socialism must be possible.

 Sure a raise in the minimum wage will pull folks above the poverty line.....for a little while, but soon following it will lead to a rise in the prices of items we buy at the store,  which in turn will actually land more folks under the poverty line.  Think about it logically for a minute.  A young family of 3, a husband, a wife and baby.  The husband can only land a minimum wage job at $7.50/hour.  The mom has to stay at home with the baby because child care is way to expensive.  The poverty line for a family of 3 is about $20k/year.  Our bread winner is only bringing in $15,600/year, so the family falls under the poverty line.  Now let take another family, same demographic, but the bread winner is making say $15/hour, so that's $31,200/year, definitely over the poverty line.  Now, the minimum wage gets bumped to $15/hour.  The first family will fell the benefits of having more money in their pockets until the employers/companies look at their books and say hey, I want to keep my same profit margins I had before the minimum wage went up.  So, in order to offset the employers loss of profit, they will raise the cost of the goods and services they sell which results in everyone paying more.  Eventually, as things get more and more expensive, that poverty live starts to creep up and soon, both families are now under the poverty line.  So raising the minimum wage too fast, will cause prices to go up which in turn will put more people into poverty.....sounds like a great plan! 

[Lannan13]

[Mutsuo Toi]

Lmfao, do you realize that Bernie Sanders focuses on what is called Economic Reform? It is just to raise minimum wage so the poor people will be able to afford food, shelter, education and have kids. Have more people get a job and weaken the Corporations power. Sure, have high tax rate on the rich people, they will still be making a heap of money and remain in the rich tier. With this economic reform, more people will be able to make their contributions as a part of the society and it will be use up for improvements and others federal programs.

 

Going socialism will solve alot of problems in United States for sure. People said this isn't possible, but United States had socialist presidents before and therefore, socialism must be possible.

 

 

       

 

 

 Basically, nobody give a shit about rich people doing something. They can have their own wealth as they want as long as they don't f**k the others. 

 

 And why in the world you would care about the rich and poor are evil or not? I mean, those riches just let us succumb their life for labor forces, Poor bastard are corrupted just like the rest of us with the riches wallet on their welfare. Rich and poor morality aren't matter, the matter is who's the one live with the other success?

Edited January 21, 2016 by lizard noob

[Peter Quill]

       

 

 

 Basically, nobody give a shit about rich people doing something. They can have their own wealth as they want as long as they don't f**k the others. 

 

 And why in the world you would care about the rich and poor are evil or not? I mean, those riches just let us succumb their life for labor forces, Poor bastard are corrupted just like the rest of us with the riches wallet on their welfare. Rich and poor morality aren't matter, the matter is who's the one live with the other success?

Huh? Sorry, your English is too bad.

[Big Brother]

 Sure a raise in the minimum wage will pull folks above the poverty line.....for a little while, but soon following it will lead to a rise in the prices of items we buy at the store,  which in turn will actually land more folks under the poverty line.  Think about it logically for a minute.  A young family of 3, a husband, a wife and baby.  The husband can only land a minimum wage job at $7.50/hour.  The mom has to stay at home with the baby because child care is way to expensive.  The poverty line for a family of 3 is about $20k/year.  Our bread winner is only bringing in $15,600/year, so the family falls under the poverty line.  Now let take another family, same demographic, but the bread winner is making say $15/hour, so that's $31,200/year, definitely over the poverty line.  Now, the minimum wage gets bumped to $15/hour.  The first family will fell the benefits of having more money in their pockets until the employers/companies look at their books and say hey, I want to keep my same profit margins I had before the minimum wage went up.  So, in order to offset the employers loss of profit, they will raise the cost of the goods and services they sell which results in everyone paying more.  Eventually, as things get more and more expensive, that poverty live starts to creep up and soon, both families are now under the poverty line.  So raising the minimum wage too fast, will cause prices to go up which in turn will put more people into poverty.....sounds like a great plan! 

 

..Which is why you have government regulation. Capitalists will always seek to reduce costs and increase profits, because that's what capitalists do. Their highest ideal is profit, not fighting poverty. This is why the state is needed to regulate the market, so that these lower than life scumbags who only really want to make money don't shred the entire economy to pieces in their never ending quest for more and more.

 

Basically what you're saying is, instead of fighting poverty and exercising state authority over private enterprise to regulate the market, we should tolerate poverty because if we try to do something about it, the capitalists will screw it up. I don't know about you but to me, that's like the worst argument ever.

[Redael]

False, if you have even read the Communist Manifesto you'll see that it does not call for a totalitarian government, but an Anarcho-Communist society.

 

But by increasing government power, it leads to

[LordRahl2]

 

I like these as they are better than a 2D linear model.  They remain terrible though.

[Doktor Avalanche]

I like these as they are better than a 2D linear model.  They remain terrible though.

I usually end up on the Mutualist region close to the bottom and hugging the line of Syndicalism and no, I am not a Syndicalist. Agorist. SEKIIIFTW,