Alan Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me... Black Skies has fought in 3 major conflicts in the past 30 days. Leaky Faucet (GW 16), AlanFall and Party in the Pantheon. However something interesting has occurred. We know that history is doomed to repeat itself. We just didn't realize that it would repeat itself in less than 30 days. Outstanding issues with Pantheon is what brought Black Skies into the war. Compass being called in to help the #18 alliance and break their NAP with us is unfortunate. We told them that continued attacks on us would have us shift focus. However they can sleep in the bed they make. What is also unfortunate is that Atlantian Council believes it's their due diligence to declare war on ***ONLY*** Black Skies. Not Arrgh, not TJest, just us. Agreements were made at the end of AlanFall that the Anti-Alan coalition fell through on. Treaties signed were tossed away just to hit us, and only us. However, we vow to take this in strides. Those that do not keep to their word show the worth of it. We accept that they want an AlanFall 2.0. We accept that Atlantian Council wanted to fight us. We reached out to them, showed them leaks, tried to talk. It didn't matter. But here's our word to you. Your words mean nothing. We will not be fooled a third time... tl;dr - Black Skies returns fire on Compass and Atlantian Council. The last time this was spoken. That person disbanded. Edited December 23, 2020 by Young Guilo 2 3 16 Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenStar10 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) @PurpleElefanteGood luck kek Edited December 23, 2020 by JadenStar10 3 1 Quote Hammer Councillor of The Lost Mines Diety Emeritus of The Immortals, Patres Conscripti (President Emeritus) of the Independent Republic of Orange Nations, Lieutenant Emeritus of Black Skies, Imperator Emeritus of the Valyrian Freehold, Imperator Emeritus of the Divine Phoenix, Prefect Emeritus of Carthago, Regent Emeritus of the New Polar Order, Coal Duke (Imperator Emeritus) of The Coal Mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexapolis Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Good luck. While I don't like your methods of dealing with things, or your thought process on what is logical, at least you stand your ground. Naturally, we are going to continue countering: a failure to do so would be dishonourable to both ourselves and to our allies in need. Your request for us to do otherwise is like a pirate telling their target to sit back and let themselves be raided, otherwise they'll come back again. We don't roll over; it is simply not our way. Best of luck in the war. We still hope for a quick resolution, and peace is an option, though without peace, I will personally enjoy my counters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ToxicPepper Posted December 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2020 It’s such a tough concept to grasp isn’t it? Did you possibly join this war just because you thought that’s how the NAP would work and Panth’s allies wouldn’t intervene? You realize you have attacked their M level ally and thus them activating their treaty does not break any NAP as they are not being the aggressor but merely defending an ally. Learn how NAP’s work before trying to use them to your advantage in this type of way. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redarmy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I think we could save everyone a bunch of time if you just threw a glass of brandy in the face of leader and have dual at dawn with a weapon of their choice. 1 4 1 Quote "Though it starts with a fist it must end with your mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzard Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: What is also unfortunate is that Atlantian Council believes it's their due diligence to declare war on ***ONLY*** Black Skies. Not Arrgh, not TJest, just us. Modal city count by alliance: AC 11 BS 6/8/10 Arrgh 7 (but remember they're pirates with low infra) TJest 20 Gee I wonder why AC decided to focus on BS of all people... Could it possibly have something to do with how their tiering matches up with BS the most and therefore they'd be able to do the most damage by focusing on BS? Noooooo clearly AC just wants to break the NAP despite BS attacking their M level ally meaning they're not the aggressors but the defenders instead,a nd so it's not breaking the NAP anyway. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingNinja Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Usually when someone 'breaks' a NAP there's some kind of proof provided. From what I see that's not provided. Try again Gulio, if this is too hard for you than perhaps you should rethink your entire idea of being a raiding alliance.🤷♂️ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokia Rokia Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, PhantomThiefB said: Usually when someone 'breaks' a NAP there's some kind of proof provided. From what I see that's not provided. Try again Gulio, if this is too hard for you than perhaps you should rethink your entire idea of being a raiding alliance.🤷♂️ Or go paperless and sign no naps like Arrgh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, PhantomThiefB said: Usually when someone 'breaks' a NAP there's some kind of proof provided. From what I see that's not provided. Try again Gulio, if this is too hard for you than perhaps you should rethink your entire idea of being a raiding alliance.🤷♂️ Not a raiding alliance. Problem solved. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokia Rokia Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Young Guilo said: Not a raiding alliance. Problem solved. But raiding is so gyood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingNinja Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: Not a raiding alliance. Problem solved. No, you conveniently ignored the key first part, you've yet to prove they didn't act defensively. You attacked Pantheon, unless you can prove your actions were purely defensive your actually the one breaking the NAP, not the other way around. End of story. Edited December 23, 2020 by PhantomThiefB english is hard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, PhantomThiefB said: No, you conveniently ignored the key first part, you've yet to prove they didn't act defensively. You attacked Pantheon, unless you can prove your actions were purely defensive your actually the one breaking the NAP, not the other way around. End of story. So all I have to do is prove that they want to destroy Black Skies and the reason for them jumping in on the war is not to help Pantheon but just to hit us again? Shouldn't be too hard. I already highlighted the first part in this forum post. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arawra Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Opportunistic cowards will be opportunistic cowards. 1 4 Quote Look up to the sky above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, PhantomThiefB said: No, you conveniently ignored the key first part, you've yet to prove they didn't act defensively. You attacked Pantheon, unless you can prove your actions were purely defensive your actually the one breaking the NAP, not the other way around. End of story. 42 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: So all I have to do is prove that they want to destroy Black Skies and the reason for them jumping in on the war is not to help Pantheon but just to hit us again? Shouldn't be too hard. I already highlighted the first part in this forum post. AND TIME: Pantheon did not call in their allies. AC joined the war quote "We're attacking Black Skies.....because we want to". I know Pantheon is no longer in it's glory days but come on folks. Pantheon wouldn't drag micros in to fight wars for them. Literally this was just an excuse to break the NAP and hit us again. I'll await those that wish to move the goalposts further. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtc justice Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, Young Guilo said: AND TIME: Pantheon did not call in their allies. AC joined the war quote "We're attacking Black Skies.....because we want to". I know Pantheon is no longer in it's glory days but come on folks. Pantheon wouldn't drag micros in to fight wars for them. Literally this was just an excuse to break the NAP and hit us again. I'll await those that wish to move the goalposts further. They don't need to call in allies, treaties are pretty clear. The M means mandatory if you weren't aware. You hit panth, they can defend all they wish and it doesn't count as breaking the NAP on their end. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, dtc justice said: The M means mandatory if you weren't aware. M is Mutual. Quote A game dies without a community. Don't hate on the communities trying to grow. Eat them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtc justice Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Young Guilo said: M is Mutual. LOL well ill just crawl back in my hole. However it may mean mutual, its always looked at as mandatory Either way, they did not break the NAP by defending their ally. Edited December 23, 2020 by dtc justice 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingNinja Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Young Guilo said: M is Mutual. yes, Mutual defense, as in vice versa. Panth would be obligated to defend if you had attacked them instead. They're obligated to defend Panth, as in Panth doesn't need to ask unless Panth is making aggressive moves. Which again you've yet to prove. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramona Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, dtc justice said: LOL well ill just crawl back in my hole. However it may mean mutual, its always looked at as mandatory Either way, they did not break the NAP by defending their ally. Kek, yeah, i've always confused it with mandatory too, i'm pretty sure the mandatory part is implied anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raoul Duke Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Well, I skipped to the end but I agree with everything everyone has said and simultaneously disagree with them as well. Arrgh? 1 1 Quote Registered slot thief Buy the ticket, take the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah Kobayashi Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Arrgh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ichigo Kurosaki Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Young Guilo said: AND TIME: Pantheon did not call in their allies. AC joined the war quote "We're attacking Black Skies.....because we want to". I know Pantheon is no longer in it's glory days but come on folks. Pantheon wouldn't drag micros in to fight wars for them. Literally this was just an excuse to break the NAP and hit us again. meh. Edited December 23, 2020 by Ichigo Kurosaki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Young Guilo said: Black Skies has fought in 3 1 major conflicts and two micro wars in the past 30 days. Leaky Faucet (GW 16), AlanFall and Party in the Pantheon. Fixed the mistake in the first sentence of your announcement. You're welcome. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buorhann Posted December 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2020 Anyone else chuckled at seeing Guilo educate DtC, and being correct? 5 2 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatMcN Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Victory To the Atlantian Council! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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