Clarke Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) This crap writes itself, not all that long ago we had people in Synisphere writing/whining about how alliances not in their sphere are not good. >Blacklists Alliance that treaties an alliance outside the sphere No logic at all. Edited January 4, 2017 by Lightning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStrum Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Pepsi. I'm no savage. !@#$ it's coke. Always coke. 2 Quote On 3/16/2016 at 9:54 PM, Lykos said: Our next move is obviously rolling LordStrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadesflames Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) !@#$ it's coke. Always coke. Pepsi. I'm no savage. Edited January 4, 2017 by hadesflames 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Can I be frank, yes, I think those that left should have approached it better with that being said. But yes, the choices Obelisk made itself (a treaty that was problematic for us and if I'm honest making the web more one sided) was enough to cancel in my opinion The web is dead, being worried about making it grow on one side is a pointless way to spend your time. Its being dead for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandros Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 My words and oppinions are mine not my AAs. Lets see if I get the timeline right from BKs point of view. Having good relationship with Resplendent. Core members of that alliance merging into Obelisk. To maintain the good relationship with those people and with the hope they can influence Obelisk and create a Resplendent like alliance BK signs Obelisk. Timejump Obelisk leader comes to BK gov saying 'we decided to sign Polaris, what do you say?' BK feels offended and disrespected by not being contacted before a decision has been made regarding the treaty but doesnt want to be a bully and still respect those people in Obelisk they say: 'well you know It would have been nice if we could talk about this a bit more as we dont really like this move but since you have already decided and the signing is tomorrow, we will not stop you.' Tho BK was unhappy they were ready to compromise because they believed it was an unanimous Obelisk decision and they still trusted those ex Resplendent guys judgement. Shit hit the fan, it turned out that those people haevily opposed the treaty but were ignored so they quit and joined another alliance. (There might be other reasons of course) Since the people BK trusted were gone leaving nobody to relate to in Obelisk but instead a gov that didnt really care about BKs oppinion regarding signing one of their ex enemies, BK decided to drop Obelisk. Tell me where am I wrong. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalev60 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) I'm late to the party but here it goes, OP: " First, to our former allies in The Commonwealth, we can’t help but feel unnerved. We thought going forward that we were friends, however, you abandoned us during our time of need. Shame on you Commonwealth. It wasn’t enough you took the members who had left with no notice to us and stole our bank, you then drop us without notice as well. On top of that, you planned it with the leaving Gov members for your own gain. If you knew they were upset, why didn’t you sit us down and try to help us work it out? You don’t deserve to be anyone’s ally." First off those are fighting words and I will not bite now, some would say I should but, I'm clearly irrelevant and I know it, plus I have better things to do, namely to freeze my balls off, as winter has come in my neck of the woods. Secondly, I do not see it as my job to go tell Government members how their fellow government members are feeling about stuff, be it allied gov or not, that is your job as AA gov to keep your act together without no outside help or influence. Yes we got a hold of half your gov bank and yes we gave it back, the more evil side of me starts to regret that after reading OP. Yes, we broke the usual polite protocol of letting ally gov know in private that we will drop a treaty before going public with it. NOW, I don't regret doing that one bit, even if it was rude of us. On TCW planning stuff: I can't even plan if I'll have beer or vodka for breakfast tomorrow and we did not plan your treaty with Polaris, we did not orchestrate you not having an clue about how some in you gov felt about it and we clearly planned on gaining only 5 or so active members instead of having and ally 60 strong. If we were the evil mastermind you paint us in that text, why would we send the bank back, heck why wouldn't we just plan on getting rid of you from Obelisk gov and keep them as ally? Why would we let you post that hit-piece if we can plan anything and execute so well such enormous things like signing an questionable treaty between foreign entities and have an allied gov fracture like a frozen booger? I wish all this nastiness had not come to this and I'm sure that it could have been all avoided, but TCW is not the bad guy in this neither is Obelisk, I wish you all the best, may Obelisk live long and prosper. Edited January 4, 2017 by kalev60 1 Quote Charlie Chaplin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) NVM Edited January 4, 2017 by Sailor Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin076 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 First, to our former allies in The Commonwealth, we can’t help but feel unnerved. We thought going forward that we were friends, however, you abandoned us during our time of need. Shame on you Commonwealth. It wasn’t enough you took the members who had left with no notice to us and stole our bank, you then drop us without notice as well. On top of that, you planned it with the leaving Gov members for your own gain. If you knew they were upset, why didn’t you sit us down and try to help us work it out? You don’t deserve to be anyone’s ally. Quite the change of attitude compared to our private discussion. "You don't deserve to be anyone's ally." Polaris treaty 2 Quote Chief Financial Officer of The Syndicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Starting to sound like crickets in here from the other side of the room... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Not sure why you even considered an alliance like The Commonwealth a friend in the first place. Serves you right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Not sure why you even considered an alliance like The Commonwealth a friend in the first place. Serves you right. Kind words from a deserter...#TheseHoesAintLoyal Edited January 4, 2017 by Queen M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Kind words from a deserter...#TheseHoesAintLoyal Aww, I must have really gotten to you to resort to desperate claims. No one actually had any issue with me leaving, not the people in Pantheon I knew or the leadership. The only issue people on forums did have was on me hitting Pantheon, that was the controversial point. At least get the facts straight. Also, I'm a pirate. We never claim to be loyal to begin with. Can you farmers say the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 You haven't gotten to me, bud. I think I was just rather puzzled why you'd even bother to comment on our status as 'a friend' seeing as you're not involved, know nothing about us, or how we conduct our affairs. I actually don't care about you at all. But good luck with your alliance. Looks like fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalev60 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Aww, I must have really gotten to you to resort to desperate claims. No one actually had any issue with me leaving, not the people in Pantheon I knew or the leadership. The only issue people on forums did have was on me hitting Pantheon, that was the controversial point. At least get the facts straight. Also, I'm a pirate. We never claim to be loyal to begin with. Can you farmers say the same? One time by "your narrative" we loyal to pixel then loyal to nothing. Queen M might be not well informed about you status or what not but at least there is not an intentional straw-man building taking place there Quote Charlie Chaplin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I was more referring to him leaving TEst during this time of duress but whatever. I really don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I was more referring to him leaving TEst during this time of duress but whatever. I really don't care. What alliance? LPF? It's equally at war with everyone in the world. My God, you're stupider than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 One time by "your narrative" we loyal to pixel then loyal to nothing. Queen M might be not well informed about you status or what not but at least there is not an intentional straw-man building taking place there My narrative? I think this must be the second time I've commented on GPA people publicly, first was when NK nuked the shit out of you guys and you simply peaced out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I was more referring to him leaving TEst during this time of duress but whatever. I really don't care. *facepalm* He was most likely hiding the bank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Happy shitting, Tywin. Hope it turns out better for you than your namesake. And Kylo...you're not worth the keystrokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Happy shitting, Tywin. Hope it turns out better for you than your namesake. And Kylo...you're not worth the keystrokes. It's turned out surprisingly well for me, you should try it sometimes. Also, the very awkward moment when someone not worth your keystrokes is smarter than you..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalev60 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 My narrative? I think this must be the second time I've commented on GPA people publicly, first was when NK nuked the shit out of you guys and you simply peaced out. Dear Tywin, I know your just looking for a raise out of me, but in my shoes and with the info I had back then and the talks I was in, I'd assume you'd have done the same in my place with the NK situation, Apeman played it rather well and he wasn't the only one that influenced the events there and how they played out. Air-quotes around your narrative are meaningless I guess? Quote Charlie Chaplin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) It's turned out surprisingly well for me, you should try it sometimes. Also, the very awkward moment when someone not worth your keystrokes is smarter than you..... Smarter? No. Nerdier, with less of a life, and more concerned with things that aren't relevant to him? Check, check, and check. Edited January 4, 2017 by Queen M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Smarter? No. Nerdier, with less of a life, and more concerned with things that aren't relevant to him? Check, check, and check. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin Lannister Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Dear Tywin, I know your just looking for a raise out of me, but in my shoes and with the info I had back then and the talks I was in, I'd assume you'd have done the same in my place with the NK situation, Apeman played it rather well and he wasn't the only one that influenced the events there and how they played out. Air-quotes around your narrative are meaningless I guess? Apeman used external pressure against you back then? Smarter? No. Nerdier, with less of a life, and more concerned with things that aren't relevant to him? Check, check, and check. He may be all that but he surely has a better grasp on what he says than you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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