Franz Von Dietrich Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Great time to profit off muntions? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELPINCHAZO Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The GPA will consider embargoing both alliances. We do not fund wars that do not involve us. careful what you wish for buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 careful what you wish for buddy. this is why we like TEst :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Jong-Il Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 So what do we call this war guys? "Which one is more white" War? 2 Quote The many forms of proof regarding Kastor's sexuality: - Kastor: I already came out the closet. - MaIone: I'm gay * MaIone is now known as Kastor - Henri: i'm a !@#$it Skable: the !@#$ is a codo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fistofdoom Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Purpose of this? Was this threatening as well? I'd like to make it known that I regret drunk posting, but its objectively funny so I'll be leaving it as is. No, no threatening, just me quite far gone. If people saw the timestamps too then they'd see the full comedic value. Quote 01:05:55 <%fistofdoom> im out of wine 01:06:03 <%fistofdoom> i winsih i had port 01:06:39 <@JoshF{BoC}> fistofdoom: is the snowman drunk with you 01:07:32 <%fistofdoom> i knet i forgot somehnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anneal Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Pssshhh gatling laser are nothing :3 we are testing our brand new Nation Laser Bombardment. expect to see highdrops in infra from our enemies Pfft, missiles never hurt anyone. Right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELPINCHAZO Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Oh please, keep your petty threats to yourself. You're all talk. Just cut it out already. First off it is not a threat,it is a warning. Second,you're obviously new here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The GPA will consider embargoing both alliances. We do not fund wars that do not involve us. Oh please, keep your petty threats to yourself. You're all talk. Just cut it out already. Yeah, we're not going to embargo either alliance, because we're neutral and we're not concerned with this war. And that last comment was unwarranted. Consider this post the end of any of the GPA's involvement in this thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Thanks Greg, always count on you for your support. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirohito Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Again, witness the results of why you need natural, time proven relations with treaty partners. Not an "Oh, well this looks good!" approach that leaves you open to flakes, and dissension over issues that should be galvanizing ones. 2 Quote Grand Moff Hirohito of Dromund Kaas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britishdude Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The amount of competence in this thread is underwhelming. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iljohn Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 How about naming the war "The Holy Crusade for White Purity" Quote (^。^)y-.。o○ (-。-)y-゜゜゜ this is how i make my cloud http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag291/petgangster/efb30519-f381-4330-a62b-11db0d2a058b_zpscilyk2rj.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 If we dont agree with liljohn they will declare war on the whole world. Be careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) How about naming the war "The Holy Crusade for White Purity" Or, "When ESA got their heads stuck in the Clouds War"? Edited March 1, 2015 by Morgan Fraser 1 Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor (Old Account) Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Or, "When ESA got their heads stuck in the Clouds War"? That is great. Quote "That ain't Cologne, that's the smell of success." 17:00 <•Sheepy> I don't want you to leave the game 19:20 <•Pubstomber>: Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Huxley Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 This is some shit, right here. I have no idea whats really going on, but whatever it is, it may concern the community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) it may concern the community. Edited March 1, 2015 by Morgan Fraser Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Huxley Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Dude! I'm a noob, ignore the uneducated statements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Dude! I'm a noob, ignore the uneducated statements. This is normal, it's a declaration of war (DoW) thread and the resulting discussion/arguments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Deering Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) I believe that the CC idea was ahead of its time, and has indeed fallen flat on its face. BoC made a mistake as to how we chose to run the CC, a mistake we aim to correct. However, I would like to bring some things into the light. Every story has two sides, and not everything in this story is how ESA Fleet Admiral, Speaker, has made it out to be. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speaker claimed that the threat of being attacked was not real, that GR and Arrgh would not have attacked. Had Psycho been anyone else, he would have simply taken those threats as an ESA DoW and attacked. If you think a war with GR and Arrgh was not a threat, then you are simply wrong. Time and time again we have stuck our necks out for you, and yet when there was a mess to clean up, you abandoned us. However, these are nothing but words and words have been proven to be meaningless to you, Speaker. As I stated earlier, BoC aims to fix this mistake known as the CC, and to remind those that think we are afraid of war, that we are not. We started the CC, and now we shall end it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is at this time, February 28, 2015, the Brotherhood of the Clouds Declares War against the Earth System Alliances for its hypocrisy, disloyalty, insulting attitude, and appalling behavior. Our war against ESA is justified for many reasons, of which we shall present only the most important: 1: Speaker overstepped his power more than we did and bragged about it; quitting because of what we did is therefore an enormous display of hypocrisy. 2: What we did do, we did to save his member. Cynic messaged Ashland informing him that Snailmun had sent a threatening message and that he would attack Snailmun. In order to avoid ESA’s member being attacked for a mistake, BoC made the call and posted the amendment. (which had already been agreed to and, indeed, proposed by Speaker) He left us to deal with a mess that had been at least one third his fault because we made the mistake of sticking up for our ally’s member. 3: Speaker was incredibly condescending and foul-spirited toward BoC and UST. 4: He insulted us on numerous occasions. Evidence: 1: http://prntscr.com/6b792k (Note The Speaker bragging about overstepping his authority without the Council’s authorization) 2: From #BoC, one of many times we have received word of Speaker calling us cowards behind our backs. [02:05] <Keegoz> They usually take all criticism extremely badly [02:05] <Keegoz> And seem to treat the community with little respect [02:06] <Cynic|afk> Im already winning [02:06] <Cynic|afk> (TheSpeaker) Yeah, well the way I look at it - ESA stands by our words and we work to enforce our word, that is the type of alliance we are. [02:06] <Cynic|afk> (TheSpeaker) I know BoC and UST are wary of wars that is something we don't see eye to eye on in this bloc - but its something we are working to change. [02:06] <Cynic|afk> (TheSpeaker) So, if it was a vote war or remove the amendment - this whole ordeal would play out in your favor 3: From Query with Cynic|AFK [21:42] <Cynic|afk> Hi. I'm Snailmun. I'm sure you've already been contacted by a member of my alliance. Probably The Speaker. Anyways, he probably made a polite yet forceful request that you move your alliance off of white. You probably aren't going to comply. Well now it's my turn. My alliance does not know I'm contacting you, except for a select few. I'll make this very clear. This is a threat. I have several people in my alliance that plan on [21:42] <Cynic|afk> Your friendly neighborhood warmongerer, [21:42] <Cynic|afk> Snailmun I cut up the DoW so I could take a look at a few parts. The first section: You stated that you created the CC? If I remember correctly it was a collective group from all 3 Alliances that drafted the initial Articles. Also we all COLLECTIVELY agreed to create this Council that would rule under DEMOCRATIC standards. Also I would really like to see how your story differs from ours. Section 2: Snailmun had been a member of ESA for max 4-6 hours. He was a small insignificant nation that had no power even on his own. I doubt anyone with a half a brain would declare over that. Also I am not going to say that a war with GR and Arrgh was a no possibility it was very much a threat and we acknowledged that. Again you didn't start the CC it was collective. Also what mess? White was peaceful until YOU declared war on us. Section 3: I don't remember TS ever overstepping his boundaries, maybe you misinterpreted him getting angry at the lack of process as him asserting dominance but progress would have been positive for the collective. Secondly he was just stating facts, you guys were infact war wary on this occasion he even said that it would have worked out in Cynic's favor, no war. Thirdly, AGAIN Snailmun was no threat and anyone with two brain cells to clink together would have seen that. Really sick CB LF really makes sense. Edited March 1, 2015 by Adam Deering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNG Posted March 1, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2015 This is normal, it's a declaration of war (DoW) thread and the resulting discussion/arguments. To be fair, I would say its more akin to this: "Discussion" 7 Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 All this whole mess shows me is BoC was afraid to fight an alliance their size in GR and Arrgh. They are mad cause the little dog has bigger balls. That would drive me crazy also, I dont blame them. I wonder where UST stands in this? Do they support BoC's claims? Did they have a vote in the final amendmant? How many times were you asked to merge with BoC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicboyd25 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Ok I have one question a lot are going to ask: Where can I find the stats for the war? Will they be updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frostsword Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 -Snip- As I've said I don't have the whole picture, but the picture you've presented us with is pretty poorly painted It is indeed poorly painted, as much as i would like to give more or even better evidence. They other screen shots got corrupted, when my computer BSOD on me. We have no way to go back to the CC forums to retake them, i have no idea if they are even still there. We used what we had left in our first post. And yes there were problems before hand, problems we thought we could handle and work out as two equal partners. But it is clear Both Speaker and myself have very different idea on what we want from the CC. The CC was a great idea, truly, and one we screwed up royally. Had we not had stars in our eye, we would have seen BoC and ESA are good for one another. The CC has shown us so much in terms of FA work, and Allies relationship. This is knowledge that will come to good use in future dealing with other alliances. If i must give another reason for war it is this: If you are prepare to insult and diminish another, then you must also be prepare to take whatever they give you in kind. Take this a a learning experience ESA, just as we did when TEst showed us. Quote Frostsword is love. Frostsword is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELPINCHAZO Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Or, "When ESA got their heads stuck in the Clouds War"? I'd go with 'Kill Whitey' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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