Popular Post Dio Brando Posted May 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kevanovia said: The OWF would get real boring real quick if the only content people were posting were ‘nice’ things about one another. In fact, I would argue that doing this would be far more damaging to the community than Akuryo waltzing around talking out of their ass and acting self-important. This game is inherently conflict driven, so yes. If everyone started holding hands and singing kum ba ya, then user generated content that drives the IC dynamics forward (which is what a significant portion are here for) would pretty much end immediately. That said, there’s a fine line between being antagonistic, playing ‘the villain’ etc., and being a dumbass like Akuryo and coming off as a petulant child who thinks everyone but them is retarded. The latter isn’t fun for about anyone, it isn’t playing the villain, it isn’t making the meta any more interesting. (I will say this. They have done a spectacular job of pissing people off. It’s the means that I have an issue with.) Edited May 5, 2019 by Dio Brando 3 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevanovia Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, Dio Brando said: This game is inherently conflict driven, so yes. If everyone started holding hands and singing kum ba ya, then user generated content that drives the IC dynamics forward (which is what a significant portion are here for) would pretty much end immediately. That said, there’s a fine line between being antagonistic, playing ‘the villain’ etc., and being a dumbass like Akuryo and coming off as a petulant child who thinks everyone but them is retarded. The latter isn’t fun for about anyone, it isn’t playing the villain, it isn’t making the meta any more interesting. (I will say this. They have done a spectacular job of pissing people off. It’s the means that I have an issue with.) I do not disagree. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Dio Brando said: This game is inherently conflict driven, so yes. If everyone started holding hands and singing kum ba ya, then user generated content that drives the IC dynamics forward (which is what a significant portion are here for) would pretty much end immediately. That said, there’s a fine line between being antagonistic, playing ‘the villain’ etc., and being a dumbass like Akuryo and coming off as a petulant child who thinks everyone but them is retarded. The latter isn’t fun for about anyone, it isn’t playing the villain, it isn’t making the meta any more interesting. (I will say this. They have done a spectacular job of pissing people off. It’s the means that I have an issue with.) Nice strawman though. I don't think everyone else is retarded, I just think everyone acts retarded at times. The fact they don't point mine out more often isn't my problem. If they ask nicely I'll do it for them, my gov has already seen it many times. I spare no one, including me, but nice try again. Sidenote: it's amusing of you to say this Dio since you know first-hand I'm not much nicer to me than anyone else. Edited May 5, 2019 by Akuryo 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Akuryo said: Nice strawman though. I don't think everyone else is retarded, I just think everyone acts retarded at times. The fact they don't point mine out more often isn't my problem. If they ask nicely I'll do it for them, my gov has already seen it many times. I spare no one, including me, but nice try again. I think of myself as a tryhard but even I don't reach this much. Take a few deep breaths though, it'll be okay. *pats* 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dio Brando said: I think of myself as a tryhard but even I don't reach this much. Take a few deep breaths though, it'll be okay. *pats* Just don't say bullshit you know is false, lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Akuryo said: Just don't say bullshit you know is false, lol. To use your own words, 'if you learn to stop channeling your inner American and being lazy (and read)', there's a reason why I said, "coming off as". You obviously don't think everyone else is retarded, I obviously don't think that's the case, but please, feel free to be even more pedantic. Edited May 5, 2019 by Dio Brando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Dio Brando said: To use your own words, if you learn to stop channeling your inner American and being lazy, there's a reason why I said, "coming off as". You obviously don't think everyone else is retarded, I obviously don't think that's the case, but please, be more pedantic. I am actually an American so this is just our nation's culture tyvm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conspiracy Theorist Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 17 hours ago, Krampus said: Nova Riata led by the fearsome Pooball was in a pesky mood for revenge. For what we had no idea Blame me, I have been pestering poo for months now to lemmie attack pantheon... like a little toddler going "mommymommymommymommymommymommymommy" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Boofy said: Blame me, I have been pestering poo for months now to lemmie attack pantheon... like a little toddler going "mommymommymommymommymommymommymommy" "MOOOM, WHERE ARE MY CHICKEN TENDIES IS MY WAR WITH PANTHEON" Like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Epi said: Tbh my favorite part of this thread is the Mentor-Apprentice dispute between Dio & Akuryo. Tho, Pantheon and Nova Riata two alliances who don't like me very much rolling each other is also very amusing. Given i robbed one, the other robbed me and i robbed them back x10. Get em bois Clearly Dio and i need to be taken to a Volcano and given lightsabers to duel until one of us has the high ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Akuryo said: Clearly Dio and i need to be taken to a Volcano and given lightsabers to duel until one of us has the high ground. Be the Zannah to my Darth Bane. Except I kill you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zei-Sakura Alsainn Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Dio Brando said: Be the Zannah to my Darth Bane. Except I kill you. You underestimate the dark side of the force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 16 hours ago, Buorhann said: You forgot the deal certain third parties made in order to have this done. Elaboration would be juicy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 You are lucky I wasn't invited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan (Uzume) Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 @Micchan You can always invite yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowthrone Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I mean the OWF is a toxic circle jerk anyway and is pointless for the most bit these days. Anyway, enjoy your war Pantheon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True King Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Best to go out from fighting if at all, chance for Pantheon to show how good they can fight. Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micchan Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Ivan (Uzume) said: @Micchan You can always invite yourself Nah, let's keep the war balanced (on paper) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Noctis Anarch Caelum said: chance for Pantheon to show how good they can fight. I'll have what he's having. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senator Aurelius Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 THL bouncing from Pantheon before they get blitzed Quote GREG HOBBS HONDA, DEALER FOR THE PEOPLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thalmor Posted May 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2019 I can respect Pantheon striking out first. It's a play to take their destiny into their own hands instead of just sitting there waiting for the wolves to come. GLHF 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prefontaine Posted May 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) On 5/5/2019 at 10:56 AM, Dio Brando said: That said, there’s a fine line between being antagonistic, playing ‘the villain’ etc., and being a dumbass like Akuryo and coming off as a petulant child who thinks everyone but them is retarded. The latter isn’t fun for about anyone, it isn’t playing the villain, it isn’t making the meta any more interesting. This will be a bit of OOC, but I feel like the conversation has moved that way in this thread so it's effectively fine. I spent a fair amount of my time playing the villain role in PnW, whether you think I was good or bad at it personally, I've been given enough nods on the character I've played in this world and others to feel qualified on speaking on what it takes to play the villain. Insults? They're fine if there's substance to them. You need a narrative, a reason to be insulting this person/group. There needs to be more to what you're doing than showing off your trolling ability, or lack there off. It's about quality and not quantity. Knowing when to speak and when to hold your punches and wait for the chance to make that critical hit. Why throw 100 punches when you can get a better effect with 2-3 proper ones. You also have to have the well-being of the game in mind. Know that you're the villain, embrace it. People are going to hate you and you can't let that bother you. But you have to know your role is to eventually lose. The best examples I can give of it are TEst and TKR. TEst embraced it's "We're the enemy" role under me, we harassed people picked fights and played off of the two spheres for as long as we could until a large section of the game came together to smash us to pieces. At that point TEst split and formed some splinters. TKR was the villain after that happened, but didn't seem to realize it or want it. They did little with the villain role really. There were almost no major wars for a long period of time. Then, like TEst, a large portion of the game united to smash them. Had TKR embraced their villain role and flexed on people frequently it might have accelerated their downfall but it would have created more interesting events that we would still be talking about. I'm not saying TEst did things right and TKR didn't things wrong but more highlighting the differences in accepting your role and trying to go against it. I often hear people look back on TEst with some very exaggerated mindset, recently Thanos said something to the effect of "Don't think you're TEst suiciding into a bigger alliance", when TEst never really did that. When you embrace your villain role stories of what you did get exaggerated, there becomes this legend about what you were/did and people talk about the crazy things you did, even if they've been warped to events that didn't actually happen. I've started to ramble.. Anyway, what I'm saying is stories are made by the villain. You need a good one for a good story. Build your reputation, make some moves that cause people to talk about "hey remember that time that guy did that thing?". But if you're the boy who cried wolf, constantly trolling/insulting your words lose their potency. tl;dr Quality villainy over quantity of villainy. Edited May 7, 2019 by Prefontaine 2 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dio Brando Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Prefontaine said: Snip As far as I am aware, we're not in disagreement here(?). When writing that post, I was thinking of you in particular. Will be posting a thread on this topic in Orbis Central soon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordyHamsVII Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) On 5/5/2019 at 1:32 PM, Ryu said: Pantheon surrender now and hang on to whatever little dignity you have left! That is if you can find any! Didn't you want a protectorate treaty off Pantheon just a few weeks ago? Edited May 7, 2019 by JordyHamsVII *yawn* this war is keeping me busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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