johnl023 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 As you may know if you're following the news, Donald Trump has made comments saying that if he were to become president, he'd try to ban Muslims from entering the country. This would prevent Muslim terrorists and tourists alike from entering the U.S. in response, some people in the UK made a petition to ban Trump from the UK, with over 500,000 signatures, so the Parliament has to actually deliberate over the ban. (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003) Do you think that the UK should ban Trump from the UK? Explain your reasoning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Princess Bubblegum Posted December 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) I knew there was a reason why the U.S. revolted against Britain. Edited December 12, 2015 by Princess Bubblegum 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Avalanche Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) No, because everyone is allowed to have their views regardless if they are acceptable views or not. The rationale for which Trump originally made his views on not allowing people of a certain creed into the United States is one which has been done in the past for the sake of national security. Due to our current political climate it is frowned upon and thus, stupid threads like this get made to feed the flames of ignorance to the fires of absurdity. Edited December 12, 2015 by VasiliusKonstantinos 1 Beer. Damn Good Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Quill Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 It won't work because banning him from certain places won't do anything. He won't shut his mouth and he'll still be a an !@#$. 4 <&Partisan> EAT THE SHIT <blacklabel> lol @ ever caring about how much you matter in some dumbass nation simulation browser game. what a !@#$in pathetic waste of life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 #StumpTheTrump? Lmao -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnl023 Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Personally I think it's a stupid idea, but I'd like to see how the P&W community will react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Fire Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 How about !@#$ this thread and Trump in one sentence? Is that too much? 2 _________________________________________________________________ <Jroc> I heard \ is an anagram of cocaine<\> I can't be rearranged into a line, I already am a line. --Foxburo Wiki-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Most people in the UK don't want to ban trump it's just fun to troll him. However since he's not a UK politician and the issues he's discussing aren't relevant to us anyway, banning him wouldn't be against freedom of speech. 1 ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan77 Posted December 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2015 I think people should just ignore him. He wants publicity and he's getting it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Valko Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 He's a scurvy landlubber and deserves to be keelhauled! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Can we make the UK the 51st state so we can expand the Constitution to them? They need it. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 In the past, the government has banned some people from entering Britain on the grounds that they have used "hate speech", i.e. they encouraged violence or prejudice against other people. Freedom of expression is important but I can see there should be limits. For example, if I encouraged someone to hurt or kill another person and they acted on it, I should not be legally blameless, especially if the people I influenced were juveniles, mentally impaired, or simply very low intelligence. In the case of Trump, few really care if he's banned or not. The petition is a way of mocking him for his style of rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Fifths Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXF8MIG_HQI "In an honest service there is thin commons, low wages, and hard labor; in this, plenty and satiety, pleasure and ease, liberty and power; and who would not balance creditor on this side, when all the hazard that is run for it, at worst, is only a sour look or two at choking. No, a merry life and a short one, shall be my motto." - Bartholomew "Black Bart" Roberts Green Enforcement Agency will rise again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Specter Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 If he does become president and gets banned from the UK then what would happen when the time of year comes when the president travels the world to visit other nations to give speeches or what ever and the UK was on the list? Wouldnt that harm relations between the two countries... I mean its kinda hard to ban a leader of a country from entering your nation when it comes to political issues that are talked in person behind closed doors. Amidst the eternal waves of time From a ripple of change shall the storm rise Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon Behold the razgriz, its wings of black sheath The demon soars through dark skies Fear and death trail its shadow beneath Until men united weild a hallowed sabre In final reckoning, the beast is slain As the demon sleeps, man turns on man His own blood and madness soon cover the earth From the depths of despair awaken the razgriz Its raven wings ablaze in majestic light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 They ain't banning him for the simple reason he is a presidential candidate. The Tories who are in power are known sycophants/supporters/minions of America and would never do such an insult towards America, which also means that once Trump wins they'll change their tune and start talking about how brave President Trump is to tackle real difficult issues no one else could. Which is a reminder for everyone. A large part of those politicians attacking Trump now will be kowtowing to him later if he becomes President. Also the petition is pathetic but no surprise. I seem to recall when Obama was running the Guardian and some other people sending letters to people in America asking them to vote Obama (lol), because him being Black meant he was the messiah or something. Can't seem to find it now, though I'd want to hide it too if I'd embarrassed myself that heavily. If Corbyn was PM though then Trump would likely have gotten banned yes but... if the media is to believed (and I wouldn't) Trump would already have been banned on the basis of being a citizen of a "terrorist state". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur James Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) when did the obama claim to be messiah? some of the trumps idea is as good as that socialist.....so no.... I knew there was a reason why the U.S. revolted against Britain. Sorry, buddy, the case of "America revolted against britian" is not the same as we were in the past....1) Not a colony state but a world dominant power 2) Military supremacy compared to trained minuteman from Napolean French 3) Expansionist policy vs self-substaining government? Edited December 13, 2015 by Arthur James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 These ads have scarred me, I think that they should be banned immediately to protect my anus from any further harm. Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 when did the obama claim to be messiah? I didn't say he did. I said, "asking them to vote Obama (lol), because him being Black meant he was the messiah or something". Trust me when I say seeing a British publication fangirl over Obama because... well he'll bring "change", he's black, will end war, and all that other guff was both hilarious and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Governor Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Sometimes after complaining about Trump, I catch myself and think there must be something to him that I'm not recognizing. Then I watch a Trump rally and realize the thing that I'm missing is actually even dumber than I realize. His followers are inept. 2 "You can lose a lot of soldiers but still win the game." – The Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 If he does become president and gets banned from the UK then what would happen when the time of year comes when the president travels the world to visit other nations to give speeches or what ever and the UK was on the list? Wouldnt that harm relations between the two countries... I mean its kinda hard to ban a leader of a country from entering your nation when it comes to political issues that are talked in person behind closed doors. I think Trump as President would ruin American relations with more than half the world. 2 ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Haddad Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ban trump the same way our corrupted government haas bannerd pro Palestinian activists Caliph of The Caliphate of Arabia. Caliph of the Islamic State of Arabia. Principle of The Principality of Chechnya. Grand Emir of The Emirate of The Caucus. Emperor of the Empire of Persia. Sultan of The Sultanates of Turkey and The Crimea. Czar of the Tsardom of The Balkans. Archon of The Archonate of Greece. Supreme Consul of The Consulate of Italy. Shah of The Shahdom Of Khorason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Pretty sure that policies from the 1940s aren't ideal choices for 2015. 3 ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Haddad Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Different political climate duh Caliph of The Caliphate of Arabia. Caliph of the Islamic State of Arabia. Principle of The Principality of Chechnya. Grand Emir of The Emirate of The Caucus. Emperor of the Empire of Persia. Sultan of The Sultanates of Turkey and The Crimea. Czar of the Tsardom of The Balkans. Archon of The Archonate of Greece. Supreme Consul of The Consulate of Italy. Shah of The Shahdom Of Khorason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Governor Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) You do realize that a lot of Trump's controversial policies were used by Roosevelt, right? You know, the democrat that liberals worship as a god? His ideas aren't racist, they aren't bigoted, they're different. No where does he say that so and so needs to die. No where does he call for the extermination of an entire people or say that anyone is better than anybody else. He simply wants to uphold the LAW of deporting illegal immigrants and doesn't want to flood the country with people of an ideology that is hell-bent on destroying others. I'm pretty sure Liberals like Roosevelt for his economic policies, not his foreign or immigration policies. Also, Trumps ideas are racist and bigoted because that's what his voters are, they're racist; and he's pandering. He said all Muslims and his campaign confirmed that included citizens. And that is entirely on purpose. All his racist shithead followers hear the first statement and love him even more. Then everyone else talks about the contradiction. More publicity, more discussion, harder to attack what a horrible person he is. Edited December 14, 2015 by The Governor 3 "You can lose a lot of soldiers but still win the game." – The Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Sometimes after complaining about Trump, I catch myself and think there must be something to him that I'm not recognizing. Then I watch a Trump rally and realize the thing that I'm missing is actually even dumber than I realize. His followers are inept. You do realise calling people stupid doesn't endear them to see things from your point of view yes? Hilarious how often I see people who call Trump racist then go on to call all of his followers racist dumb white rednecks. The irony is delicious. Besides you'll perhaps be surprised to hear that Trump may well attract more African-American voters than anyone ever thought possible for a Republican candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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