Who would you vote for?

[Stormrideron]

Bernie Sanders is probably one of the best choice out of all, politically and economically.

 

Trump is out because of what he said violates against the constitution. He is nothing but a fake and a bunch of rambling psycho. White House recently stated that Trump is offically out, no chance for Trump to become president. We do not need other nazi in this world and he only did it merely for attention and fame.

 

Sanders on the other hand is best choice, not only because he has plenty of political experiences but his proposal bills are reasonable and is well liked by many of Americans. He may be socialist, just like FDR who is also a socialist and brought many great changes to United States. Sanders will be the man of century for United States and it is what we need now.

Edited December 9, 2015 by Stormrideron

[New Scandanavia]

Bernie Sanders is probably one of the best choice out of all, politically and economically.

 

Trump is out because of what he said violates against the constitution. He is nothing but a fake and a bunch of rambling psycho. White House recently stated that Trump is offically out, no chance for Trump to become president. We do not need other nazi in this world and he only did it merely for attention and fame.

 

Sanders on the other hand is best choice, not only because he has plenty of political experiences but his proposal bills are reasonable and is well liked by many of Americans. He may be socialist, just like FDR who is also a socialist and brought many great changes to United States. Sanders will be the man of century for United States and it is what we need now.

ha you do not know about me

[Stormrideron]

ha you do not know about me

Yeah right, imposter.

[New Scandanavia]

Yeah right, imposter.

i saying i will be the best prez ever

[Stormrideron]

i saying i will be the best prez ever

With your english and grammar? I highly doubt it.

[Fox Fire]

Being a bit dramatic there I think. America is already an oligarchy anyway and at least Trump would bring about some changes people want, his reputation would rest on it after all. I could be wrong of course in regards to foreign policy but with him being an "enemy of Muslims" it'll be good to see the situation in the middle east shaken up a bit. If that enmity between them and Trump makes it happen that we get to see the Saudi family's heads on pikes so to speak then his presidency would have been worth it on that alone. 

Yes, we need a fascist like Trump in office to kick off the next genocide so that we can all enjoy his incompetency in peace. \o/

 

I suppose we're all going to kill ourselves anyway, so let's just start by building a giant wall that does nothing and waging a holy war on Islam! Later on we could even pick up slavery again. Slavery is good for business you know.

Heil Trump! 

 

 

/sarcasm

[New Scandanavia]

With your english and grammar? I highly doubt it.

yes but my first laws would to teach me how to grammar and how two spel 

[Saruman]

 

1. King Edward mass deported Jews too, clearly a Nazi. Oliver Cromwell, long known as a genocider of the Irish let them back in so clearly a good man.

2. Uh... not sure what this matters. Crass but hardly a sure sign of Nazism.

3. Don't most reiterate the whole "America's great" or "lets make America great again" angle?

4. Looking it up it seems the US apparently doesn't register religions in their census which is somewhat odd. They do in Britain which is an obvious sign they are Nazis.

5. Alright.

6. So do most people be it through disagreements with it or kneejerk reaction based on certain factors.

7. Those who appeal to the "far right" are appealing to both wings. The left wing working class and middle class right wing basically.

 

You make it sound like if he wins it'll become the United States of Trump with him as Emperor Trump, he can't quite do completely as he likes. Trump doesn't have to genocide them when he can just deport them, ban more from coming in, and just generally make them want to leave. The public will help the effort out no doubt as those who are silent and inactive now will be galvanised if Trump wins. They should invite the Jews to help them in their pogroms for the irony.

1. The difference is that Hitler started off with telling people that he wanted to deport all the Jews to Madagascar. However, when this didn't work out, he 'had no choice' but to send them to concentration camps. Trump wants to deport 11 million Hispanic immigrants. This just isn't possible. Nobody knows what Trump will dowhen he learns this, but we can only hope that he doesn't follow the same path as Hitler.

2. k

3. No, not the intelligent ones. 

4. It's not about registering religions, it's about creating a national database in which all Muslims are required to register. Trump has said that these will be watched more closely by the government. It is exactly what Hitler did with the Jews. 

5. k

6. ?

7. I meant the socially far right. The far right that wants to deport anything that's not white. 

[Kyubnyan]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511

Yep, just gonna leave this here.

[Doktor Avalanche]

[Cornelius]

Feel the Bern! If you had listed candidates, I would've voted. I am registered Independent and make my choice on every vote based on the individual candidate, not his or her party. I've voted for Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Independents, and some candidates that didn't list their party so they could be anything.

[Dimitri Valko]

I don't align myself with a party, as I prefer voting independent. I'd say Sanders would probably win my vote.

[Rozalia]

Yes, we need a fascist like Trump in office to kick off the next genocide so that we can all enjoy his incompetency in peace. \o/

 

I suppose we're all going to kill ourselves anyway, so let's just start by building a giant wall that does nothing and waging a holy war on Islam! Later on we could even pick up slavery again. Slavery is good for business you know.

Heil Trump! 

/sarcasm

 

Who said anything about genocide? The Saudi family are villains and after their deeds seeing them punished would be a delight, nothing more. As for slavery it's nice of you to mention that considering in the gulf states is where quasi-slavery exists. Said slaves are a nice "moderate" force to support with airstrikes I'm sure. 

 

1. The difference is that Hitler started off with telling people that he wanted to deport all the Jews to Madagascar. However, when this didn't work out, he 'had no choice' but to send them to concentration camps. Trump wants to deport 11 million Hispanic immigrants. This just isn't possible. Nobody knows what Trump will dowhen he learns this, but we can only hope that he doesn't follow the same path as Hitler.

2. k

3. No, not the intelligent ones. 

4. It's not about registering religions, it's about creating a national database in which all Muslims are required to register. Trump has said that these will be watched more closely by the government. It is exactly what Hitler did with the Jews. 

5. k

6. ?

7. I meant the socially far right. The far right that wants to deport anything that's not white.

 

1. You think he doesn't know the difficulty? He'll start by deporting criminals and dumping them in Mexico once his wall is up and running. Then you slowly chip away at the numbers, no need to gather up 11 million people in one day. Mexico will accept all this counter to what they said and if they resist then they'll get hurt by America in some manner, likely economically. 

3. Pretty sure the "I love America" thing is very common. Nothing to do with intelligence, simply a vote winning thing to say.

4. Looking at the quotes on the matter he said there should be a "lot of systems" but what exactly that means who knows. At the end of the day he can achieve the same result by simply implementing such a thing for everybody (and having the secret service target Muslims off it). Like I said other countries track religion and it's hardly some grand evil.

6. Hating communism doesn't mean you're close to Nazism. Conservatives, Libertarians, Socialists, anarchists, and so on all can hate Communism too.

7. Depends really. A lot of the "far right" are actually when it comes to support for the common man far more left wing than some others. They don't support minorities and such but to the group they're targeting (the majority) it seems to be a fine enough deal often enough. 

[Spite]

Trump is just an arse who makes stupid comments to get media attention. Literally the worst form of pond life.

 

I voted for the Democrat option purely because it'll be between them and the republicans, and I'd rather have the lesser of two evils in charge.

[Doktor Avalanche]

I voted for the Democrat option purely because it'll be between them and the republicans, and I'd rather have the lesser of two evils in charge.

[Spite]

Totally false comparison.

 

Imagine you are unemployed with no qualifications. There are four jobs on the job website. A street cleaner, a coffee shop worker, a brain surgeon and a nuclear physicist. You decide that you'd rather work in a coffee shop than sweet streets because you get to talk to people, even though you like neither job particularly.

 

Voting for anyone other than Democrat or republican is like applying for the brain surgeon or nuclear physicist job. You might feel good but the chances of getting it is zero. It's a wasted vote. If America had a PR system it would be different but it doesn't, so it's a waste of time.

 

I'm a labour party member in the UK for reference.

[Nadir Aminu]

I just got a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.... But I don't have a car and I can't drive.

[Princess Bubblegum]

Whoever will make America great again.

[Sailor Jerry]

Totally false comparison.

 

Imagine you are unemployed with no qualifications. There are four jobs on the job website. A street cleaner, a coffee shop worker, a brain surgeon and a nuclear physicist. You decide that you'd rather work in a coffee shop than sweet streets because you get to talk to people, even though you like neither job particularly.

 

Voting for anyone other than Democrat or republican is like applying for the brain surgeon or nuclear physicist job. You might feel good but the chances of getting it is zero. It's a wasted vote. If America had a PR system it would be different but it doesn't, so it's a waste of time.

 

I'm a labour party member in the UK for reference.

Join the military.....get some training/qualifications, see the world and get some awesome college benefits.  Stay for 20 plus years and get 50+% of your base pay/month a free medical for the rest of your life.  There is always a choice, no one should ever have to settle on what is placed right in front of them.

[Spite]

Join the military.....get some training/qualifications, see the world and get some awesome college benefits. Stay for 20 plus years and get 50+% of your base pay/month a free medical for the rest of your life. There is always a choice, no one should ever have to settle on what is placed right in front of them.

I think you're missing the point. The fact is that there are only two options for who will be the next president of the United States: the democratic candidate and the republican candidate.

 

You are correct, in most situations there are many choices, and in those cases the lesser of two evils is usually not a valid argument. In the case of who to elect however, I would vote for the presidential candidate who exhibits more socially liberal tendencies, even if I disagree with many of their policies.

[Lannan13]

Being a bit dramatic there I think. America is already an oligarchy anyway and at least Trump would bring about some changes people want, his reputation would rest on it after all. I could be wrong of course in regards to foreign policy but with him being an "enemy of Muslims" it'll be good to see the situation in the middle east shaken up a bit. If that enmity between them and Trump makes it happen that we get to see the Saudi family's heads on pikes so to speak then his presidency would have been worth it on that alone. 

I mean have you heard half the things he talks about? He is probably the most absurd President and many view him like people viewed Barry Goldwater. The only difference is Goldwater was more sane and not a complete nut job as Trump. With Trump's absurd policies I laugh at those with his alliance pip and Princess Bubblegum for the blind loyalty in Trump. The only reason Trump is winning is that he's contraverial where he simply talks out his @ss and he appeals to xenophobes. Trump himself even said, "If I ran for President it would be a Republican. They would believe anything I said, I could lie and they'd believe it." On an nepisode recently he reconfirmed this. Trump is more of a Clintonian Democrat than Republican.

I just got a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker.... But I don't have a car and I can't drive.

Same here. I don't have a care, but I got the sticker for free.

[Rozalia]

I mean have you heard half the things he talks about? He is probably the most absurd President and many view him like people viewed Barry Goldwater. The only difference is Goldwater was more sane and not a complete nut job as Trump. With Trump's absurd policies I laugh at those with his alliance pip and Princess Bubblegum for the blind loyalty in Trump. The only reason Trump is winning is that he's contraverial where he simply talks out his @ss and he appeals to xenophobes. Trump himself even said, "If I ran for President it would be a Republican. They would believe anything I said, I could lie and they'd believe it." On an nepisode recently he reconfirmed this. Trump is more of a Clintonian Democrat than Republican.

 

Medicine often doesn't go down well, but regardless you should take it. Both Sanders and Trump are "outsiders" of sorts (even with Sanders political experience his differing politics to everybody else means he might as well be an outsider). Both can do their own good, one socially another economically. 

 

Trump is just an arse who makes stupid comments to get media attention. Literally the worst form of pond life.

 

I voted for the Democrat option purely because it'll be between them and the republicans, and I'd rather have the lesser of two evils in charge.

 

Voting for the lesser of two evils is how you get a situation like the blue and red Tories. Instead of halting the "evil" you instead keep it going as the "lesser evil" realizes it can simply be a slightly weaker variant of the "greater evil". For example if all the people who for years didn't truly believe in New Labour had simply not voted instead of going for the "lesser evil", Labour would have collapsed completely and we'd either get someone like Corbyn quicker, or another party would have replaced them. Thankfully Corbyn has changed that dynamic now but bloody hell is the deck stacked. I didn't think I'd see the day that attacks from American politics and media were tame compared to the British ones (Sanders is getting an easy ride by comparison).

[Fox Fire]

 

Who said anything about genocide? The Saudi family are villains and after their deeds seeing them punished would be a delight, nothing more. As for slavery it's nice of you to mention that considering in the gulf states is where quasi-slavery exists. Said slaves are a nice "moderate" force to support with airstrikes I'm sure. 

 

 

1. You think he doesn't know the difficulty? He'll start by deporting criminals and dumping them in Mexico once his wall is up and running. Then you slowly chip away at the numbers, no need to gather up 11 million people in one day. Mexico will accept all this counter to what they said and if they resist then they'll get hurt by America in some manner, likely economically. 

3. Pretty sure the "I love America" thing is very common. Nothing to do with intelligence, simply a vote winning thing to say.

4. Looking at the quotes on the matter he said there should be a "lot of systems" but what exactly that means who knows. At the end of the day he can achieve the same result by simply implementing such a thing for everybody (and having the secret service target Muslims off it). Like I said other countries track religion and it's hardly some grand evil.

6. Hating communism doesn't mean you're close to Nazism. Conservatives, Libertarians, Socialists, anarchists, and so on all can hate Communism too.

7. Depends really. A lot of the "far right" are actually when it comes to support for the common man far more left wing than some others. They don't support minorities and such but to the group they're targeting (the majority) it seems to be a fine enough deal often enough. 

The Kim dynasty is pretty evil too. So what? 

 

1. His wall will do nothing. Mostly because there is already a wall..... That does nothing.... Anyone who supports this absurd idea clearly has no understanding of why walls don't work. 

 

I thought conservatives were supposed to be for small governments? Not fascists aimlessly deporting people as they flood in even faster than they can be realistically be deported or waging war on and banning a religion. Trump is an absolutely horrible individual who's vision extends to his inflated ego and nothing beyond. The reality is, he's not going to build a wall. He's not going to deport all the illegals. He's not going to stop illegals from coming in. He's not going to stop Muslims from coming in.

How do I know this? Because I know there is no realistic way of doing these things and Trump himself refuses to explain how he will do any of this (presumably because he himself has no idea).

Edited December 9, 2015 by Fox Fire

[durmij]

I feel like pointing out that Sanders will probably not get the nomination. The super delegate vote will probably be the deciding factor, and that is almost definitely going to Clinton. She's the safe choice and has legacy ties to the party.

[Rozalia]

The Kim dynasty is pretty evil too. So what? 

 

1. His wall will do nothing. Mostly because there is already a wall..... That does nothing.... Anyone who supports this absurd idea clearly has no understanding of why walls don't work. 

 

I thought conservatives were supposed to be for small governments? Not fascists aimlessly deporting people as they flood in even faster than they can be realistically be deported or waging war on and banning a religion. Trump is an absolutely horrible individual who's vision extends to his inflated ego and nothing beyond. The reality is, he's not going to build a wall. He's not going to deport all the illegals. He's not going to stop illegals from coming in. He's not going to stop Muslims from coming in.

How do I know this? Because I know there is no realistic way of doing these things and Trump himself refuses to explain how he will do any of this (presumably because he himself has no idea).

 

(Referring to Hitler) Stalin is pretty evil too. So what? Not sure what your point is there. The Kim family is protected by China and would take a bit more effort, the Saudi are protected by America so are far easier to bring down for the Americans.

 

If Trump gets his deportations, gets his ban on Muslims, and other such things... making good use out of a wall is no difficult thing. Give orders for the increased border guard to simply kill on sight and it'd stop the number trying pretty quick. Obama already signs off on civilians getting bombed on the other side of the planet, not a huge difference with Trump signing off on illegals getting killed when trying to cross the border.

 

As for rounding up the people to deport, there is such a thing as making examples of people to make others flee. Trump's goons don't have to round everyone up, merely a good number and punish them harshly. Once that happens there may be riots which is a chance to pop some more of them off. Armed forces can handle rioters who'll likely pop some civilians off making it easy for Trump to frame them as all being violent and criminals. Once thats sorted a good number of people will together with their families flee instead of possibly being next.