[RoH] Glass Houses on Eclipse Way

[Krameleon]

Let us take a look at this war, and the reality hidden underneath.

For years, Rose has been the go-to target for public scrutiny. Our lack of public presence being hailed as bad for the game. The only serious DoW from this war effectively used “Rose Bad” as its casus belli.

Meanwhile, Eclipse coasts under the radar, quietly avoiding the kind of backlash that would rain down on us — or frankly, anyone else — if they pulled the same moves. It might be worth considering the reason why that might be.

The Eclipse Empire
Eclipsphere is now the largest sphere in Orbis, after the addition of The Immortals. Their roster includes Singularity, TI, KT, Spectre, WAP, and WEEB. Imagine the uproar if another sphere tried to consolidate alliances on this scale. There would be hegemony accusations, cries of straining FA, and of how such a sphere is “bad for the game” would dominate the political and public discourse. Yet it's let passed.

Eclipse’s sphere size is not the only issue however. Eclipse’s FA strategy has fundamentally shaped the meta we deal with today. They orchestrated the 6-month NAP just to ensure they could isolate their opponents and get their juicy war on TKR/Grumpy. Eclipse used this strategy to ensure no other conflicts could arise to disrupt their carefully planned NAP cycles. It ended up coming out once the one day war came out on how important these nap cycles are for Eclipse; that war also saw some under the table maneuvering from other parties. This nap cycle ensurance was not simply a tactical move — it set the tone for the stagnated FA landscape where we find ourselves.

The Double Standard
Eclipse having created the largest sphere in Orbis wasn’t enough to content them. They further sought to link up with TKR/Grumpy (who were a victim of the nap cycling), further cementing their dominance and opening the door for another round of NAP cycling. Not to mention that previously, the idea of Eclipse and Grumpy linking up would’ve been condemned immediately. Yet here Eclipse is, dissatisfied with their already large sphere, linking with Grumpy. Those who would once damn such partnerships are largely silent.

Eclipse continues to expand unchecked, squeezing out long periods of peace and crafting the FA meta that suits their needs, all while avoiding the kind of backlash that Rose or others would face for doing the same thing. The hypocrisy is staggering.

Fin.
It’s easy to point fingers at Rose, to accuse us of being inactive in the public sphere. Well, here we are.

Maybe it is time to acknowledge the deeper issues at play. Eclipse’s actions and the FA landscape they’ve hand crafted deserve just as much scrutiny if not more for its long term impact to the game.

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Also, for the record, I’m sorry about the economy.

Edited December 21, 2024 by Krameleon
Rose Bad, didn’t include [RoH]

[Horsecock]

Didn't read but Rose bad.

[Dream]

Sorry for interrupting what might’ve been another blissful year of peaceful nothingness for Rose. We even knocked on your door, but it seems no one wanted to answer. Rude, honestly; I just wanted flowers.

[Soul Toucher]

Eclipse bad is definitely the new meta

[Corvidae]

Rose is the number one alliance in score, arguably tiering, and total member count and has been for quite a long time. Far from victimized, Rose has seemingly benefitted the most out of all other alliances from the "system hand-crafted by Eclipse" that you claim. Curious.

It is only now in a war where you've completely rolled over, have a small alliance's worth of people in VM, and lost 1/3rd of your score that you have sank to the lowest point Rose has seen in years... Rank 2.

 

 

And yes I appreciate that an RoH got posted. Shoutout Vexz.

Edited December 21, 2024 by Alastor

[boppy]

[Merow]

Love that you guys atleast made a public statement about something politics related for once. Regardless of what I think about it or any backlash you might receive

I just hope this isn't a one off

[Wingawoo]

55 minutes ago, Krameleon said:

Let us take a look at this war, and the reality hidden underneath.

For years, Rose has been the go-to target for public scrutiny. Our lack of public presence being hailed as bad for the game. The only serious DoW from this war effectively used “Rose Bad” as its casus belli.

Meanwhile, Eclipse coasts under the radar, quietly avoiding the kind of backlash that would rain down on us — or frankly, anyone else — if they pulled the same moves. It might be worth considering the reason why that might be.

The Eclipse Empire
Eclipsphere is now the largest sphere in Orbis, after the addition of The Immortals. Their roster includes Singularity, TI, KT, Spectre, WAP, and WEEB. Imagine the uproar if another sphere tried to consolidate alliances on this scale. There would be hegemony accusations, cries of straining FA, and of how such a sphere is “bad for the game” would dominate the political and public discourse. Yet it's let passed.

Eclipse’s sphere size is not the only issue however. Eclipse’s FA strategy has fundamentally shaped the meta we deal with today. They orchestrated the 6-month NAP just to ensure they could isolate their opponents and get their juicy war on TKR/Grumpy. Eclipse used this strategy to ensure no other conflicts could arise to disrupt their carefully planned NAP cycles. It ended up coming out once the one day war came out on how important these nap cycles are for Eclipse; that war also saw some under the table maneuvering from other parties. This nap cycle ensurance was not simply a tactical move — it set the tone for the stagnated FA landscape where we find ourselves.

The Double Standard
Eclipse having created the largest sphere in Orbis wasn’t enough to content them. They further sought to link up with TKR/Grumpy (who were a victim of the nap cycling), further cementing their dominance and opening the door for another round of NAP cycling. Not to mention that previously, the idea of Eclipse and Grumpy linking up would’ve been condemned immediately. Yet here Eclipse is, dissatisfied with their already large sphere, linking with Grumpy. Those who would once damn such partnerships are largely silent.

Eclipse continues to expand unchecked, squeezing out long periods of peace and crafting the FA meta that suits their needs, all while avoiding the kind of backlash that Rose or others would face for doing the same thing. The hypocrisy is staggering.

Fin.
It’s easy to point fingers at Rose, to accuse us of being inactive in the public sphere. Well, here we are.

Maybe it is time to acknowledge the deeper issues at play. Eclipse’s actions and the FA landscape they’ve hand crafted deserve just as much scrutiny if not more for its long term impact to the game.

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Also, for the record, I’m sorry about the economy.

Nice words, but penguins can't read. NOOT NOOT

[Yukimiya Kenyu]

Louis Ross live reaction to that information:

[DragonKnight]

Have been waiting for this for a whole ass week.

 

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I also put more effort into this than all my defensive wars did combined.

[Denison]

Make me new leader of Rose, I'll roll Eclipse within 6 months. 

[Wingawoo]

3 minutes ago, Denison said:

Make me new leader of Rose, I'll roll Eclipse within 6 months. 

That's if you don't turn the dark side of pixel hugging

[Canbec]

8 minutes ago, DragonKnight said:

Have been waiting for this for a whole ass week.

 

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I also put more effort into this than all my defensive wars did combined.

 

A whole week and that's the best you could do? Honestly says more about your fighting skills than anything else 😉 

 

[Kan0601]

I won’t lie you guys do have a lot of numbers too lmao. Penta TGH sphere plus Penta ties to TFP Sing. Didn’t you guys like work with all of them to hit T$ sphere which was 1/5 then added in EVH after Penta wanted to hit them while promising you wouldn’t behind close doors? 

Kind of sure you guys have also been coasting under the radar and doing this nap thing. You got 6 month nap with T$ then 4 month with EVH. 

My point is why so mad when others do to you what you did to them lol? 

[Mako]

1 hour ago, Dream said:

Sorry for interrupting what might’ve been another blissful year of peaceful nothingness for Rose. We even knocked on your door, but it seems no one wanted to answer. Rude, honestly; I just wanted flowers.

@Dreamill send you flowers bestie <3

[DragonKnight]

33 minutes ago, Canbec said:

A whole week and that's the best you could do? Honestly says more about your fighting skills than anything else 😉 

 

Your comments make no sense and your memes are absent.

[penpiko]

2 hours ago, Krameleon said:

Their roster includes Singularity, TI, KT, Spectre, WAP, and WEEB. Imagine the uproar if another sphere tried to consolidate alliances on this scale.

>Makes up sphere with random alliances that are obviously not part of it (Kt, Spectre, etc)
>Is still only marginally bigger than your actual sphere 

[Neo Le]

19 minutes ago, penpiko said:

>Makes up sphere with random alliances that are obviously not part of it (Kt, Spectre, etc)
>Is still only marginally bigger than your actual sphere 

yeah, numbers add up

[Shiho Nishizumi]

2 hours ago, Krameleon said:

Those who would once damn such partnerships are largely silent.

I presume that this is aimed at the neutrals in this conflict.

It's been brought up a few times to us. We weren't inclined to comment on it. However, given that you are seemingly intent on criticizing third parties who have remained quiet:

While Eclipse and Grumpy have more visible whale tiers, Rose (and its allies) is not without one. It is fairly comparable, if a bit spread out.

As far as we are concerned, you demonstrated that such collaboration among whale tiers was acceptable the moment you and ODOO intervened in an ongoing war, and with what concluded as the One Day War.

Against a party that had no comparable whale tier, I should add.

Given that such is so, lecturing these alliances for not taking a stand (on your behalf) against the evils of whale tier cooperation, when you yourself were unconcerned about the consequences thereof when it served your interests, is simply unbecoming.

[-Mike-]

32 minutes ago, penpiko said:

>Makes up sphere with random alliances that are obviously not part of it (Kt, Spectre, etc)
>Is still only marginally bigger than your actual sphere 

>the way you included all offshores and extensions when writing out the alliances to fluff it up for A and didn’t do it for B. 

[penpiko]

6 minutes ago, -Mike- said:

>the way you included all offshores and extensions when writing out the alliances to fluff it up for A and didn’t do it for B. 

For the sake of maximum fairness I went out of my way and included HoF, which isn't even considered part of KT. 

[Tiberius Aurion]

Sounds like a skill issue. Eclipse in no way does anything being suggested. These are complete mischaracterizations of the facts, a clear distortion of reality, and a speculative concoction at best with no evidence supporting any of it.

Edited December 21, 2024 by Tiberius Aurion

[Monti]

[Tactical Eclipse]

3 hours ago, Krameleon said:

The Eclipse Empire

this is defamation i think

[SleepingNinja]

Womp Womp.