SAI-40 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 It doesnt matter two people have experienced this topic; ME and hereno. Yu want to start a war Morgan, you don't have any standing in the TAC, or any evidence to back up your claims. You're upset because you quit the Government without prior notice, and then were surprised when we didn't let you back into the Government when you came back. Quote "They're turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers. But what's the real cost? ‘Cause the sneakers don't seem that much cheaper. Why are we still paying so much for sneakers when you got them made by little slave kids? What are your overheads?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 He's leaking WWII because you want to start a war Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 Still not seeing any dates or times on those logs Hereno. After all of this, you're still going to pull these cards, as if it isn't obvious that I'm being truthful? You're just like Abbas, constantly lying through your teeth and making yourself look foolish. The reason my logs have no timestamps is because the timestamps from xchat version (way too outdated) from my old Mint installation that I got rid of about a week ago look like garbage and don't say anything meaningful. I cleaned up the logs for the sake of the readers. T 1412191264 18<Pubstomper> Hereno can I trust you? T 1412191492 31<Hereno>30 depends T 1412191518 31<Hereno>30 i would say you can trust me but that it wouldn't be wise to do so T 1412191518 18<Pubstomper> on what? Is that better? Do you believe me now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I' Morgan, you don't have any standing in the TAC, or any evidence to back up your claims. You're upset because you quit the Government without prior notice, and then were surprised when we didn't let you back into the Government when you came back. I've got over that, I'm so glad im not with you war craving, pieces of crap, we dont want war Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegar Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 And yes, I did message him first. I had planned on joining DEIC, couldn't really go back to SI after leaking info on them, Diabolos said to try and make things right with SI and EoS. There goes that I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillou Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 After all of this, you're still going to pull these cards, as if it isn't obvious that I'm being truthful? You're just like Abbas, constantly lying through your teeth and making yourself look foolish. The reason my logs have no timestamps is because the timestamps from xchat version (way too outdated) from my old Mint installation that I got rid of about a week ago look like garbage and don't say anything meaningful. I cleaned up the logs for the sake of the readers. T 1412191264 18<Pubstomper> Hereno can I trust you? T 1412191492 31<Hereno>30 depends T 1412191518 31<Hereno>30 i would say you can trust me but that it wouldn't be wise to do so T 1412191518 18<Pubstomper> on what? Is that better? Do you believe me now? Those don't prove anything, also those logs are a couple months old. This war is being started cause of a discussion that occurred months ago? Quote [17:17:58] <&Ashland> I will give you hops if you say this phrase: [17:18:13] <&Ashland> "Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard." [17:20:16] Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 24, 2014 Author Share Posted October 24, 2014 And yes, I did message him first. I had planned on joining DEIC, couldn't really go back to SI after leaking info on them, Diabolos said to try and make things right with SI and EoS. There goes that I suppose. What did you expect to happen? You thought you'd get away with it which is why you changed your name. Deal with the consequences of your actions for Christ's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Morgan, you don't have any standing in the TAC, or any evidence to back up your claims. You're upset because you quit the Government without prior notice, and then were surprised when we didn't let you back into the Government when you came back. Given that his nation is in Ignis Immortals (Government of some level even), it's quite a shock to find out that he doesn'tt have any standing in "the TAC." Also it's redundant to say "the TAC." The "T" in the acronym stands for "The". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegar Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) What did you expect to happen? You thought you'd get away with it which is why you changed your name. Deal with the consequences of your actions for Christ's sake. I'm not trying to avoid the consequences, I changed my name in the hopes it would at least slow you down a little bit. Good job on finding me so fast by the way, in the future work to see who's actually a member on your forums though. Everyone's talking about opsec, you're both awful at it. Edited October 24, 2014 by Jaegar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) I Given that his nation is in Ignis Immortals (Government of some level even), it's quite a shock to find out that he doesn'tt have any standing in "the TAC."Also it's redundant to say "the TAC." The "T" in the acronym stands for "The". I was part of TAC for 2 weeks, and was the MoJ for gods sake, Sai-40 I was the one who allied with TAC and i'm starting to regret it with all of this stuff coming out Edited October 24, 2014 by Morgan Fraser Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Isn't II and TAC allied? What's with all the shit talking where everyone else can see it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Isn't II and TAC allied? What's with all the !@#$ talking where everyone else can see it? Yes we are allied, it was me who allied us, and i'm regreting it Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Those don't prove anything, also those logs are a couple months old. This war is being started cause of a discussion that occurred months ago? So you're saying TAC hasn't gone around trying to drum up support for rolling the Purple Coalition since that conversation you claim was a couple months ago? Good luck with getting thinking people to buy that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Agreed Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrum Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=6607 This nation ID (6607) belongs to "Enigma". He is currently an applicant, formerly a member (yesterday before I talked to them), of VoC. Given VoC would have no reason to leak the treaty between their own allies and ourselves onto the forums early, I'm presuming that I'm right in assuming this spy comes from TAC. The leak conveniently came the night after I told Abbas I wouldn't help TAC with their crap, and this PM came the same night that I revealed to Abbas that I knew who the spy was. Moreover, they actually bothered to get a name change on the nation (which is responsible for its new identity; it was formerly known as Eren), and I'm hoping it wasn't the free one but is actually something they paid for. Either way, they know we know, and so there's not much point in not just telling everybody so they can avoid a known spy. im sorry but this is the biggest unbacked inference I have ever seen one plus one = two that does not mean however, that one plus three = two. For all you know he just decided to do it. Or it could be anybody else on your long list of enemies. Dont blame TAC because of your screwup. You litterally said. This guy leaked it THEREFORE! it must be TAC. Thats just about as solid an argument as my argument that cows cannot see you if you wear a tinfoil hat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 im sorry but this is the biggest unbacked inference I have ever seen one plus one = two that does not mean however, that one plus three = two. For all you know he just decided to do it. Or it could be anybody else on your long list of enemies. Dont blame TAC because of your screwup. You litterally said. This guy leaked it THEREFORE! it must be TAC. Thats just about as solid an argument as my argument that cows cannot see you if you wear a tinfoil hat! Unless he left because you pissed him off and tryied joining back in, again Frog you have no proof that he isnt Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 <Pubstomper> Empire of Spades, United Purple Nations, Dutch muhfuhkas Was that really necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegar Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I guess the word of a known spy doesn't mean much does it? Like I said, check my bank history, check my trade history. If I'm spying for another alliance I'm making money off of it, now that I think of it I might have been able to, but the fact remains that I did this with the sole intentions to stir shit up. Looks like that worked out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrum Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Unless he left because you pissed him off and tryied joining back in, again Frog you have no proof that he isnt let me get this streight... your argument is we cannot prove that he was not our spy THEREFORE, he must be our spy??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Oh god, my sides. So let me get this straight: Pubstomper, at least a month ago, said he wanted to roll us Then, two weeks ago, he tried recruiting Hereno and told him OPSec info Now, after Hereno told his friends about the logs, TAC is crying foul And now TAC is saying that in the last month all the treaties they have been signing has nothing to do with wanting to roll us? Riiiiiiiight. 1 Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Oh god, my sides. So let me get this straight: Pubstomper, at least a month ago, said he wanted to roll us Then, two weeks ago, he tried recruiting Hereno and told him OPSec info Now, after Hereno told his friends about the logs, TAC is crying foul And now TAC is saying that in the last month all the treaties they have been signing has nothing to do with wanting to roll us? Riiiiiiiight. I really hate agreeing with underlord. I feel dirty now. More bourbon please. Though in the interest of impartiality underlord, you could argue the Purple Coalition is responsible for TAC treatying up in the first place. Fear of getting rolled (whether misguided or not). Personally I'd say it's both. They wanted to roll you and they also wanted protection in case you came after them. Edited October 24, 2014 by Tenages 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speaker Faris Wheeler Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Whatever, TAC wants to start a war, and I can tell you I'm not gonna support them for all of the crap thats now coming out If this stuff isnt true, well then okay, but if it is, II is a peaceful alliance, unlike TAC Edited October 24, 2014 by Morgan Fraser Quote Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I'm confused as to why this Morgan guy keeps banging on about tac wanting to start a war. I don't know if they did or didn't, but what relevance does that have to them allegedly getting a spy to leak info about a treaty. Not even a particularly greasy treaty, just a bog standard treaty between an alliance who no one trusts and eos. Why would anyone risk a spy being caught over that kind of boring info, and then get the spy to post it on the forum for everyone to see. Frankly I'm confused. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grillick Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I remember when TAC were neutrals. That was a good 48 hours. 5 Quote "It's hard to be a team player when you're omnipotent." - Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Though in the interest of impartiality underlord, you could argue the Purple Coalition is responsible for TAC treatying up in the first place. Fear of getting rolled (whether misguided or not). Personally I'd say it's both. They wanted to roll you and they also wanted protection in case you came after them. I can't say anything for EoS but I can say with absolute certainty that UPN had no quarrel with TAC, although it seems we(read: I) was misguided in assuming they had no intention of attacking us. Meh, treaty webs suck anyways. So I guess this war is to the benefit of the game. I remember when TAC were neutrals. That was a good 48 hours. They saw the errors of their ways (also they still raided indiscriminately so people weren't buying it) Edited October 24, 2014 by underlordgc Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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