KiWilliam Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 27 minutes ago, Phoenyx said: You really think I'm the only one on our side who's a bit tired of this war? Unless the people in Rose/Hedge have a good sense of humor all around, and felt like trolling, [i]you[/i] are the person who would not be in peace talks was his point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, KiWilliam said: Unless the people in Rose/Hedge have a good sense of humor all around, and felt like trolling, [i]you[/i] are the person who would not be in peace talks was his point. You think peace talks are only held behind closed doors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shiho Nishizumi Posted November 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2020 Yes. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Phoenyx said: You think peace talks are only held behind closed doors? Enlighten us, where are they held? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Orcinus Orca said: Enlighten us, where are they held? Wherever both sides communicate and there is a willingness of at least one of those sides to work towards peace. Edited November 28, 2020 by Phoenyx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Phoenyx said: Wherever both sides communicate and there is a willingness of at least one of those sides to work towards peace. Very vague. Where exactly, and how many wars have been brought to a conclusion with public peace talks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Orcinus Orca said: Very vague. Trying to pin point where exactly peace is achieved is a fruitless endeavour for the most part. Sure, one can point to the signing of some peace treaty or some such, but those things don't happen by themselves. Activists the world over know that working for peace isn't only something that heads of state can engage in- far from it, frequently these heads of state would still be fighting if it wasn't for the tireless efforts of those who want peace, no matter how small their individual voices may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Phoenyx said: Trying to pin point where exactly peace is achieved is a fruitless endeavour for the most part. Sure, one can point to the signing of some peace treaty or some such, but those things don't happen by themselves. Activists the world over know that working for peace isn't only something that heads of state can engage in- far from it, frequently these heads of state would still be fighting if it wasn't for the tireless efforts of those who want peace, no matter how small their individual voices may be. You realize this is a game, right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isjaki Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I shall designate to share my views on this topic in cat language "Meow mrrow mew maow miaow" 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Orcinus Orca said: You realize this is a game, right? Yes, but it's a game that mimics real life in some ways. I definitely think the road to peace is one of them. The butterfly effect, if you will, both in terms of how wars can start and how they can end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sir Scarfalot Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, The God Emperor of Mankind said: If you keep this up, Pizza Hut may fire you, unsubstantiated claims followed up with name calling makes even discount pizza chains look bad Good grief, you need a snickers. You're so far off the rails that you're swinging a sliding door. Without hinges. 4 hours ago, Phoenyx said: Yes, but it's a game that mimics real life in some ways. I definitely think the road to peace is one of them. The butterfly effect, if you will, both in terms of how wars can start and how they can end. ...No. Real life is nothing even remotely close to this game. IRL peace happens after deals are reached, generally through backroom negotiations which involve threats, blackmail, bribes, secondary deals with third parties, and murders. In general, we don't bother with the murders, and therefore there's no comparison Either way, your posts have as much bearing on peace as your opinion does on IRL wars and peace, I.E. none at all. Unless you sincerely believe that you're somehow influential enough to broker peace deals between global powers with nothing but your savvy rhetoric, of course. Edited November 29, 2020 by Sir Scarfalot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said: Real life is nothing even remotely close to this game. Strongly disagree with you there. 2 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said: IRL peace happens after deals are reached, generally through backroom negotiations which involve threats, blackmail, bribes, secondary deals with third parties, and murders. In general, we don't bother with the murders, and therefore there's no comparison In general, people in real life don't murder each other either. What's happening here is akin to school/office politics the world over. The in crowd, the out crowd, things of that nature. Frequently, there isn't that much concern as to what the truth is in these types of scenarios. Ofcourse, there are always a few who really do care and keep on digging to try to find it... 2 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said: Either way, your posts have as much bearing on peace as your opinion does on IRL wars and peace, I.E. none at all. We clearly disagree on that point. Edited November 29, 2020 by Phoenyx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, Phoenyx said: Strongly disagree with you there. In general, people in real life don't murder each other either. What's happening here is akin to school/office politics the world over. The in crowd, the out crowd, things of that nature. Frequently, there isn't that much concern as to what the truth is in these types of scenarios. Ofcourse, there are always a few who really do care and keep on digging to try to find it... We clearly disagree on that point. That's just adorable lmfao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, Phoenyx said: Strongly disagree with you there. What gets me is that you, as a new player, are trying to telling the older and more experienced players, on how the game works, even though not only are you new, but also lack experience. In other words, "hey, I don't like what you are saying, so it's not true". I'm sorry, what? 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiho Nishizumi Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Orcinus Orca said: In other words, "hey, I don't like what you are saying, so it's not true". I'm sorry, what? "Your simple explanation isn't one of my liking. My explanation which requires two digit coincidences and what-ifs is more likely of an occurrence." I mean, he's entitled to his opinion, it's flaws notwithstanding. But pretending that such will have any bearing on proceedings or that they're more valid than more substantiated and grounded insights is, ehm... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Orcinus Orca said: What gets me is that you, as a new player, are trying to telling the older and more experienced players, on how the game works, even though not only are you new, but also lack experience. In other words, "hey, I don't like what you are saying, so it's not true". I'm sorry, what? Pretty sure that guy is a reroll of a previous troll account. 1 2 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bolivar Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Buorhann said: Pretty sure that guy is a reroll of a previous troll account. You don't say? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefonteen Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Help i'm triggered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Orcinus Orca said: What gets me is that you, as a new player, are trying to telling the older and more experienced players, on how the game works, even though not only are you new, but also lack experience. I look at the information available and I come up with theories that seem to fit the available data. But most important of all, I ask questions and I keep on asking these questions until I am satisfied with the answers I get. I really like the following line: "Trust those who seek the truth, doubt those who find it." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Phoenyx said: I look at the information available and I come up with theories that seem to fit the available data. But most important of all, I ask questions and I keep on asking these questions until I am satisfied with the answers I get. I really like the following line: "Trust those who seek the truth, doubt those who find it." And double-doubt those that refuse it when it becomes apparent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sir Scarfalot said: And double-doubt those that refuse it when it becomes apparent I think you're in the "find it" category. If things were apparent, there would be no war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Phoenyx said: I think you're in the "find it" category. If things were apparent, there would be no war. If things were not apparent, there would be no war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenyx Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Sir Scarfalot said: If things were not apparent, there would be no war. No. Everyone, whether it's Ronnie, Tyrion, Kaz, they've all said the same thing- there were no plans to attack you guys. Ronnie only said that there seemed to be briefly and then never heard of anything again. I've pointed out a lot of evidence suggesting that he was mistaken even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Scarfalot Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Phoenyx said: No. Everyone, whether it's Ronnie, Tyrion, Kaz, they've all said the same thing- there were no plans to attack you guys. Ronnie only said that there seemed to be briefly and then never heard of anything again. I've pointed out a lot of evidence suggesting that he was mistaken even then. Everyone, eh? So you're saying that Partisan has said there were no plans to attack Quack? Maybe Adrienne has said as much? 🙄 You consistently confuse 'public statements' with 'evidence'... they're not the same thing. And more to the point, whether things are apparent to you is irrelevant: what matters is how apparent things are to people that affect foreign policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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