Redael Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 What? That is probably most stupidiest thing I read today. Evolution and survival of the fittest is very similar to captilism. (Success is rewarded, and thoose who adapt and succed live/profit) If you dont agree with or understand my arguments, insults are not nessecary. Quote Gary Johnson 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Valko Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Evolution and survival of the fittest is very similar to captilism. (Success is rewarded, and thoose who adapt and succed live/profit) If you dont agree with or understand my arguments, insults are not nessecary. No, Capitalism only profits those who are born into a rich family, pretty much everyone else is f**ked by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Do you know what evolution is, capitalism, survival of the fittest, it's how the world works. First off, evolution can't just be boiled down to that one phrase. Especially since Dawkins, "It's not the fittest of species that survive, but the one most responsive to change." is vastly superior in summation and must more frequently used. Secondly, in what way shape or form is capitalism survival of the fittest? For inventions, with out access to capital, good inventions die all the time. Like the electric car, barely getting on after over a century of existence. For ideas; you are arguing up and down against accessible education. How are we supposed to get the best ideas for fitness testing if a huge chunk of the population can't get higher education? Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redael Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 No, Capitalism only profits those who are born into a rich family, pretty much everyone else is f**ked by it. My dad was born into a poor family, that didnt stop him Quote Gary Johnson 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 No, Capitalism only profits those who are born into a rich family, pretty much everyone else is f**ked by it. I had a copypasta disproving this on my old computer. I'll look for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 helping the unfortunate?!, we aren't helping the unfortunate were helping the government get stronger and have an excuse to raise taxes, some goes to college, but most goes to the governments personal intrest. My rich family help the unfourinate by giving to private charities(only ones we know aren't corrupt) Tell me again how billionaires who sit on cash helps the economy? Don't get me wrong, I support free enterprise, however I believe in Public Services. I love helping out my community as best as I can and volunteer my time I'm not at work(which isn't much time away from work) and to help my fellow human beings who have been casted aside by our corrupt social structure. I believe in higher taxes as long as it goes to a right cause. Canada has high taxes but they sure invest in their population. But let me guess, that makes them corrupt and big for trying to provide quality and affordable healthcare and to help there fellow brothers and sisters who got the unfortunately to be born in the poverty class. If we are seriously blaming the unfortunate who worked hard but can't get out of their crises due to financial struggles, then this world can burn straight to hell because all I see is greed and self-centered pricks bullying the 99% who aren't able to succeed because the super rich horde over half of the U.S. wealth. A healthy economy has the wealth in the middle class and invest in the poor to push them into middle class. Of course there are lazy asses, and if they refuse to help themselves then they can stay in the poverty, however the ones who fight everyday to pay bills, feed their children, and keep a roof over their kids heads deserve a long needed break and a helping hand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Avalanche Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Americans have been conditioned to believe Socialism is just a step towards long-haired hippy Communism which most US citizens for the most part seem to despise. But Socialism should more appropriately be thought of as the marriage of government and business. National Socialism is big business harnessing government to do its dirty enforcement work i.e. corporations are in charge. This unfortunately is what is viewed as the Republicans wet dream and is easily influenced as "handshaking our politicians into wealth" like Hillary Clinton and GW Bush have experience by being bought for changing and enforcing beneficial policies for specific trade deals and businesses. This is what we call Corporatism and Crony Capitalism and it is not just limited to Republicans as we have seen with certain policies benefiting supposedly certain "Medical and Pharmaceutical" businesses/Insurance Companies and the enforcement of policies which directly benefit people in those industries. The other side of the coin is the Federal Government begins nationalizing certain businesses and corporations which is what most US Citizens typically refers to as "Socialism". The use of several once Private institutions and Corporations are now under the control of Government entities and its uses are now under the enforcement and authority of the Supreme Governing Authorities. Socialism. Even under this, the little guy still loses. Quote Beer. Damn Good Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm late to this thread, but it surely doesn't look like I missed much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redael Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Fine, if I'm not going to persuade anyone, let's turn this back to a discussion of the democratic nomination. Quote Gary Johnson 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Tell me again how billionaires who sit on cash helps the economy? Aside from implementing systems to further stabilize the government and preventing anarchy? Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Aside from implementing systems to further stabilize the government and preventing anarchy? Nothing. Lmfao. Billionaires do not do one thing to keep order. Stabilize government? Lolk buying politicians to do their bidding totally makes a healthy stable !@#$ing government. Aside from implementing systems to further stabilize the government and preventing anarchy? Nothing. Lmfao. Billionaires do not do one thing to keep order. Stabilize government? Lolk buying politicians to do their bidding totally makes a healthy stable !@#$ing government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekaterina Kalmyk Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Honestly, I'd be fine with either Hilary or Bernie, though I get a better personal vibe from Bernie for some reason. I'm so glad we have Obamacare and that it's actually supported in my state, because I went through some health problems last year and I would've been up a creek without Obamacare. I don't think I would've been able to afford insurance without it. (Obviously, universal healthcare would be better. Why so many other countries can make healthcare work and we can't, I have no idea.) Quote Original Art Credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Lmfao. Billionaires do not do one thing to keep order. Stabilize government? Lolk buying politicians to do their bidding totally makes a healthy stable !@#$ government. Did you even click on the link? America could be a memory of the past without that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Did you even click on the link? America could be a memory of the past without that. Why do you think JP Morgan et al did that? Patriotism? Altruism? Or could it be that they were the ones who had the resources to be able to see out the collapse and come out of it smiling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Why do you think JP Morgan et al did that? Patriotism? Altruism? Or could it be that they were the ones who had the resources to be able to see out the collapse and come out of it smiling? Well, losing their entire business is a good incentive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Well, losing their entire business is a good incentive. Well, with regulations and smart business practices, the crises would of never happened Edited February 7, 2016 by Olivier Mira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Well, with regulations and smart business practices, the crises would of never happened Alright, let's put it this way. You are getting a glass of milk. You spill the milk because you aren't being careful. You clean up the milk so your house doesn't smell like milk the rest of the month. Yes, you could have not spilled the milk in the first place. But because you did, you should clean it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Alright, let's put it this way. You are getting a glass of milk. You spill the milk because you aren't being careful. You clean up the milk so your house doesn't smell like milk the rest of the month. Yes, you could have not spilled the milk in the first place. But because you did, you should clean it up. Comparing spilt milk and greedy businesses is a redicioulus analogy, but please do try again . I wouldn't trust businesses to be unregulated and left to fix the problems they made due to bring unregulated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Comparing spilt milk and greedy businesses is a redicioulus analogy, but please do try again . I wouldn't trust businesses to be unregulated and left to fix the problems they made due to bring unregulated. How so? Why? You have a perfect example sitting in the link I posted earlier. Edited February 11, 2016 by WISD0MTREE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Redael Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Well, with regulations and smart business practices, the crises would of never happened I don't want to sound like Donald trump, but anti-competitive rules and regulations are destroying our economy, not helping it. Quote Gary Johnson 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Vietnam Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I don't want to sound like Donald trump, but anti-competitive rules and regulations are destroying our economy, not helping it. so get rid of all laws??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 #FeeltheHill2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur James Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Any1 who isnt Socialist.....wait, I am the one, so we dont need another. Edited February 13, 2016 by Arthur James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Avalanche Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I would not classify myself as a Socialist. Quote Beer. Damn Good Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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