RedPhx Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Hillary is off the table for me after how things unfolded in 08 (we wouldn't have birthers if it wasn't for Bill). O'Malley isn't getting any traction. With Bernie we have had 8 years of Republicans doing anything to derail a president they say is a socialist, would it be any better with one who is actually one. BTW this year I am feeling the Bern. On the other side Donald Rump is an idiot (and a scam artist if you want to know more about that look up Trump Institute), and the best part is here in deeply red Utah he beat Hillary by 5 points in a poll. All the others with one exception are too far right for a liberal moderate like me, but the last time I voted for a Bush he screwed everything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrezj Kolarov Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's hilarious that some people actually call Bernie Sanders a socialist. The man isn't even close. If you took Sanders and put him in Europe he would be a right-wing conservative, that's just how screwed up American politics is. 1 Quote People's Republic of Velika: National Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 It's hilarious that some people actually call Bernie Sanders a socialist. The man isn't even close. If you took Sanders and put him in Europe he would be a right-wing conservative, that's just how screwed up American politics is. Want to give us some more on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrezj Kolarov Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Want to give us some more on this? Well, for example the state healthcare system (paid for by high taxes on corporations) which Sanders supports is almost exactly the same as the state healthcare systems in Europe (in particular France), which the center-right conservatives have supported for decades. Sander's policies are not much different from the Union for a Popular Movement (now The Republicans) in France. I'm just pointing out that US politics are sickening right-wing, so right-wing that they make European conservatives look like lefties. Quote People's Republic of Velika: National Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Well, for example the state healthcare system (paid for by high taxes on corporations) which Sanders supports is almost exactly the same as the state healthcare systems in Europe (in particular France), which the center-right conservatives have supported for decades. Sander's policies are not much different from the Union for a Popular Movement (now The Republicans) in France. I'm just pointing out that US politics are sickening right-wing, so right-wing that they make European conservatives look like lefties. Yes, Conservatives "support" it. The Tories "support" the NHS while tearing it apart for one example from Europe. Sanders isn't as left wing as people make out no, that much is true. However he isn't a European Conservative, perhaps if you believe everything the Conservatives say they're apparently for, but their American counterparts are the Democrats, as in the establishment Democrats. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannan13 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Fine, if I'm not going to persuade anyone, let's turn this back to a discussion of the democratic nomination. What'd you loose? Edited February 18, 2016 by Lannan13 Quote Tiocfaidh ár lá =Censored by Politics and War Moderation team= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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