Darth Ataxia

Nice job, there’s some hope yet for you, TFP. Sorry to see Cam throwing new friends away so vicariously.

Like Horsecock, this is my first WoT on these forums. I hope that not being in t$ is a good enough position for everyone reading not to throw out my responses right away, as I am sure they will echo what others have said in the prior five pages of text/salt. If I knew how to make hidden spoilers, I would use those to spare your eyes the pain of seeing words on a page. Additionally, I often quote only a portion of the section which I am referencing in order to save general page space. I hope that doesn't cause too much trouble for you all. Before we really get going here, it’s hilarious that you forgot Mystery Inc and Johnsons, but if they view themselves in the same way TCW viewed them, they don’t consider themselves in the political landscape either. I’ve never really understood why this line of thought is popular. While it is most certainly true that dogpiles are generally bad, there are instances where achieving the goal of the war would not have been possible. The two times that Grumpy actually took some serious losses in Knightfall and Brawlywood come to mind, as most of the upper tier not in Grumpy had to work together just to take them down. The larger issue I have with this statement is the idea that wars should be fair. They shouldn’t be. Sure, you will have even matches from time to time, but going out of your way to ensure this happens prohibits the very purpose of war to begin with which is to win. More than just winning, you should be able to accomplish goals i.e., killing Rose’s infra and harming their economy instead of just wiping their military and calling it a day. In a similar fashion to my previous statement, I do not believe that war should be pursued for war’s sake. Wars can and should be borne out of political machinations, or a cultivation of action/inaction. As I noted earlier, wars should have a purpose or a goal behind them or else risk creating a stagnant political landscape, which some could certainly argue with merit already exists. Wars without reason or support are why wars like Vietnam and Afghanistan are considered failures by the public and history accounts. Now whether this reason for war be that someone stole your bank, backstabbed you, has a history of transgressions against you (that sounds better than just revenge btw, GoB), or is your most apparent rival and you want to take them down a peg to place your own group on top. This is also known as politics, or the other half of the game’s title and is rather ironic that HC is all too happy to say he isn’t political, or pursue wars for political reasons, while citing a political reason for Clock to hit HW. If all that mattered was the cage match, I’d recommend that everyone disband their respective alliances, split into teams, and work out who is fighting who and when they’re fighting them. However, that isn’t just what matters. Wars should have meaning, consequences, and results that can be seen, even if it something as simple as an alliance seeing something that needs to be improved, or treaties being created/cut in the aftermath, or the big scary word of reparations. I think almost everyone is aware that this line is long worn out, and that you, Horsecock, would know not to beat a dead horse. Beyond its hyperbolic nature, it continues to show that we have yet to recognize the difference between NPO actions that were actually wrong and NPO actions that we just didn’t like. Using the NPO comparison is also a favorite of those who don’t believe wars should have consequences i.e., terms beyond the usual memery and returning to preassigned colors. Such terms in my opinion would fall into the “NPO actions we didn’t like category” and aren't necessarily bad for the game/FA field to deal with. These actions have often been present in this game and open to a fair amount of subjectivity. As can be seen in this very thread, several of these keyboard warriors have drawn their swords in an equal WoT manner in response to your own, while others likely have engaged in what you believe to be the usual blithering propaganda. If one sees propaganda and spin, it falls on opposing parties to combat it and provide their own propaganda and spin. This is something that has fallen by the wayside in recent years and been replaced by people who are unwilling to engage in this type of FA, to everyone’s general detriment. If your own unwillingness to spit out spin and rhetoric is something you have trouble with, please consult with your doctor. Now of course, t$ can certainly change their rhetoric styles if they so choose from something you consider deplorable to something you may consider to be more happy go lucky or something, but that doesn't negate the fact that they will still be putting out spin or propaganda and pushing view contrary to other people. The main issue with this and the related section is that you make a fool of yourself expecting the next leaders to be the same as their predecessor. If you have ever held a conversation with WANA, he’ll tell you upfront that he is not the same as Partisan, nor is his goal to be Partisan. I admire him for that, because as much as I loved Partisan and loved working with him, I could not expect WANA to do everything exactly as Parti would have. If I were to do that and then insinuate on top of that that Syndicate wasn’t interested in making the game more enjoyable then I’d rightly expect some of the responses that Syndicate has given in this thread. Their emphatic response speaks to the fact that they do act out of honor for their alliance, even if you don’t like the presentation. I don’t think it’s specifically the PR behavior that led to this point but some of the things that I touched on earlier regarding purpose of war and FA stagnation and I'm sure we could spend several pages debating it if either of us were so inclined. Health of the game is another one of those lines that gets thrown around at least a few times each year with people saying if something stays the same or if something doesn't occur exactly how they want that the game will die. Again, in my opinion, this goes back to fighting wars with no meaning and no goal of moving FA forward or creating consequences that will result in more FA. I’ll let Syndicate folks respond to some of the harsher accusations regarding their behavior and military strategies which is at it’s heart some political spin from a third party (good job at it for someone who doesn’t engage in politics apparently). But that's all I have for you HC, I hope I made it clear enough, since it is after all, just my opinion. Now on to some other folks I have worked with Sisyphus, Partisan, Adam, and WANA throughout the past few years. I have yet to see any evidence supporting this claim, both from my experience and from the experiences of other t$ allies. Nearly every FA decision is discussed and t$ although they could easily take over the FA direction and overpower the discussion has always ensured that they hear from each of their allies and work as a group to form the decisions that come forth from Blackwater and before that in Quack (to TKR’s chagrin no doubt :p). This is a method I have taken to heart with House Stark’s own allies and prots. Every alliance from our side in this war wants to be here, even GATO who signed Sunray five days ago and probably would have had the strongest argument not to be involved. Yet here they are. Aurora was certainly a special can of worms that t$ gave more chances than they probably ought to have thanks to stubborn HS and CoA. There’s a reason that isn’t “we don’t want to look like a hegemony” for why they never upgraded you and kept you at a distance and I know that you know that Zed’s WoT is a good read as well if you don’t want to dredge through all the other comments insulting individuals or news organizations. Lot of history that was before my time and I always enjoy reading from the older players about it. Not so, Rose was the reason there was a NAP at all post-Brawlywood, for example. This also misrepresents our general viewpoint on the viability or strategic value of NAPs, which we knew would happen when we didn't sign your fancy document. I’ll let t$ respond to the rest of your stuff though (especially the victimhood thing, yikes). I know you enjoy sparring with them more than anyone else here. If I’m not mistaken, it’s been said a few times, but just in case: if T$/HS had an idea as to what NPO was planning regarding hitting TKR four days after our opportune strike on GG, we would not have hit GG. This is why we immediately pulled out upon NPO engaging TKR. Should we have immediately blitzed IQ right afterwards? Maybe. Hindsight is 20/20 and I’ve often wondered how much of a difference it would have actually made for the final result we got. Thank you all for tuning in to the first edition of Ataxia WoT. Hopefully there will be more and serve as a method of political movement that I alluded earlier in the text. Have a good night.

Yep

We are not surprised that so many young men wish to dance with our sister, Cindi. However, we would be failing in our duty as her brother not to be somewhat protective of her, especially given Hollywood’s association with unsavory individuals. It had long been suspected that former producer Harvey Weinstein was a prospective member of Grumpy Old Bastards (Grumpy), a club of Hollywood elites who pride themselves on being above the law and the common man. After his arrest and account of his crimes, these elites panicked at the thought of being canceled and losing all their stockpiled cash reserves. They have even gone as far as saying they never were associated with the former director or considering him for a club membership. Pictures, however, do not lie. A non-associate supported by two Grumpy members. SRD having soup and drinking RedBull with a non-associate. Although they have tried to distance themselves from the former producer, they share many common behaviors, particularly their obsessive nature over Cindi. While they may believe that Cindi has long had eyes for them, these old men have simply misread her actions of disgust and rebuttal of their lifestyle to be actions of seduction and enchantment instead. With this in mind, we’re here to monitor this dance and ensure that our dear Cindi is not needlessly loved at the hands of these Hollywood elitists. Hands at the waist, boys, or you may find yourself in a gutter before the night is out. TLDR: HS recognizes hostilities with HW. Ataxia, King in the North Samani, Hand of the King Starfuze, Archmaester Achilleus, Lord Commander Darth Revan, Master of Coin Village, Wisdom of the Alchemist Guild

HS officially gives OWR 72 hours notice. We had a good run.

That's the best CB you could come up with, "Syndi hurt our pixels before"? You must really be going senile.

Welcome to Orbis, enjoy the game!

Missed the RP forum there

These guys seem pretty cool. excited to see where life takes them. o7

Thank you @Zygon for your years of leadership over House Stark. Here's to new adventures and heights to reach!

I can't believe my eyes. Poolaris lives?

your alliance and bloc are good

TY SHEEPY

This is one of the, if not the greatest treaties this game has ever seen.

This is one of the, if not the most stupid treaties this game has ever seen.

Here I am thinking Oasis actually made a move besides eating more cake.

I hope they don’t stray too much from the book when they make it a movie. 770 would probably spoil that too : (

With FIFA looking for a new game studio, Sheepy should probably just offer his services to them. All politics and wars players could play fifa from their browser and FIFA gets to take all of the ad revenue and credit cash that sheepy would get. it's a win win. ; )

This is an interesting idea but imo the best way to create possible conflict wrt color blocs is to increase the bonus.

Best of Luck to Camelot in their future endeavors. Good fight for all.

Is there a general ETA on some of these changes? I recall some of these being worked on for quite some time.

Its like clockwork

Er, KT was obviously the best Christian alliance

Epic