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tbf... the only player that actually matters is yoso

@Phoenyx please do not try to interpret my post or read into it. I'm actually cracking up that you were interpreting it the way you were. I honestly don't know the reasons for the war and I don't care much what they are, I just follow the orders of the people really investing time into the politics of this world. I don't think Valk and Partisan talk much(beyond typical FA stuff) or ever really have in all honesty, maybe they do but I am not privy to such conversations. But please know that you made my night with your literary analysis of my shitpost.

alright you guys want a cb, ill give u a cb. let me tell u a story to offer some context Valk: Hey partisan lets go play frisbee golf partisan: ok partner, that sounds great they took off towards the folf course, discs in hand and valk readies up to start his first throw, eyes narrowed on the bucket partisans phone rings, "friday" by rebecca black playing over and over again while he refuses to answer it so he can "enjoy the song". valk whiffs the shot. fricking rebecca black. partisan. took everything from him. valk announces his immediate folf retirement and travels the world he sees all kinds of people and places. One day he came across a giant hedge, no other path but through it. as he is making his way through the hedge, pushing all the branches out of the way he starts to realize that there is money instead of leaves on this hedge. as he finally reaches the other side of the hedge he cant help but don a big smile. As he looks across the swamp in front of him he knows exactly how he will exact his revenge.

You’re sitting here saying things from that long ago don’t matter to you, but they clearly matter to the people you guys wronged those years ago. I don’t know why you’re dismissing things that aren’t recent as irrelevant, the only people touting that “rule” so far is you guys, who will obviously have an affinity for stats that looks better on you guys. The irony of the fact that while we are he debating semantics of whether or not TKR has historically dogpiled people and it’s relevancy - there is a person who was rolled by TKR saying he doesn’t forgive you for it simultaneous to our exchange. So maybe it doesn’t matter to you what you guys did, but it clearly matters to them. I totally get why you feel the way that you do, honestly if it was anyone else I doubt it would require this many people working together, but TKR and t$ pack a punch and have risen as the underdogs before. It’s frustrating being in a position like this. This goes back to what I mentioned in my first post here, part of war is seeing who can get the most to work on their side before the conflict happens, it appears you didn’t win that aspect of the war. Not to say you have definitively lost or won the actual war, I really don’t know how the end result will be, maybe you’ll surprise us all again.

Sorry on mobile so harder to make things formatted well. I do apologize for inconsistencies in the number of nations as my source for them was the wikis of those wars. And why not hold you accountable for things from 3 years ago? You have several of the same members, your culture hasn’t died, and just because leaders change doesn’t mean alliances do. People still make fun of rose for things Keegoz, Durmij, or I did and I’ve never once used time as an excuse. “Rose blitz” is a Something poked fun at endlessly, and it was for years because we choked. We have different leaders and honestly most of us that led during that blunder aren’t active but it’s still something that I think looms over roses head at every conflict. I implore you to show me 5 good examples of when you guys were dogpiled on, not including the war where most the active game was losing to NPO. Dogpiles happen in every. Single. War. And it’s not your fault that you guys historically are on a side with big numbers - your alliance is huge both in member count and score so unless you fight another really big alliance or multiple smaller ones it’s hard to be balanced out. I just hate reading the stupid bullshit trying to suggest that dogpiles are this horrible, awful thing and you’re such victims. You can take a bong rip and chill a bit. I didn’t hit you or your allies for any reason other than targets sent to me. I really don’t personally care if you guys are a big sphere or not. also, happy Halloween

Coming from the alliance that felt it necessary to dogpile on arrgh for 10 months. Yeah you sure are the dogpile champs. Here is a brief summary of TKR being the dogpile champ: - Anti-Piracy war on arrgh - Compass war (431 nations fighting 34) - Bank Heist (91 nations fighting 6) - The Nothinging (15 nations of CoS getting rolled by you and friends for a month) - Sparta/Grumpy war (due to very high tiering this one isn't as bad, your side had 32 nations fighting 18) - Radiant Crusade (another time you rolled arrgh, this time just with HBE you had 164 nations fighting 57) - Papers Please (You fought with 880 members to 148) - Stop Online Piracy (another time you rolled arrgh, 152 nations to 99) There is nothing wrong with a dogpile, a large part of wars is how much you can set up to be in your favor before the conflict breaks out, and often times it does result in someone betraying someone but thats part of the politics. Don't play victim to something you consistently take part in across your entire alliance history. If anything, I would argue that you single handedly made arrgh the champs of getting dogpiled.

just make steel more valuable ty

Alright man. There is nothing between those two posts that contradicts a single thing said, in fact, I would say it reinforces claims. 1. You can boast about a guy being ill prepared for war all you want but last I checked your entire alliance had 200 planes and nearly no spies left. This has been further pointed at and it's even worse according to more recent screenshots, nothing said in my second post remotely discredits this claim. 2. I’m sure you’ll reap the political and financial benefits of nuking the shit out of our 10 city nations. Horsecock did, to his credit, try to prove me wrong on this by showing off all the wars he won from nuking some larger nations. That was round 1. While I do admit to being dramatic in saying 10 cities, it still is nations that don't bring much money and have lower infra levels. Now it's round 2 and how many nations over 20 cities do you guys have the ability to nuke right now? In my second post I mention that Rose already has nations out of your range back to business as usual, this is because now you will be nuking our smaller nations. You can't reach us where it hurts anymore, but please - continue to boast about literally every small victory you can; all you're doing is reminding me why I dropped you and your first alliance as a protectorate all those years ago when I led Rose. (Which is no small feat, I signed pretty much everyone who knocked at my door for a protectorate and you were one of two that I ever remember dropping.) 3. Pointing out how unfair the odds are with them being 5:1 - you hit an alliance that had a protectorate and you’re throwing a fit about people honoring it? Now here you see me agree that we have overwhelming odds, and I explain why that situation existed under it's current condition. I outright say that Rose blitz was a success for Rose if you also include the edit I added just minutes after posting. Immediately after saying it was a success for Rose I suggest that it didn't need to be a perfect blitz because of our number advantage. It's fine we had several hiccups. This one is actually hilarious too, because Horsecock's reply to me saying claim 3 is acting like he isn't upset - showing off his successes; while yours is to give a sarcastic congrats because you're a bitter little prick. All you did was prove me right, and throw a fit right after I say you are throwing a fit. So please inform me how I'm backing out on anything I initially said.

I don't claim rose had a good blitz. I think KT is doing more damage to themselves long term in this whole situation though. Rose already has tons of nations out of range and business as usual again. KT doesn't. EDIT: Rose blitz was good, for Rose. But still plenty room for improvement. We had enormous number advantages.

You can boast about a guy being ill prepared for war all you want but last I checked your entire alliance had 200 planes and nearly no spies left. Nice raid. I’m sure you’ll reap the political and financial benefits of nuking the shit out of our 10 city nations. Pointing out how unfair the odds are with them being 5:1 - you hit an alliance that had a protectorate and you’re throwing a fit about people honoring it? You knew what you were risking, now bite the pillow.

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I've been playing this game for a long time, a very long time - the entirety of my adulthood. I've seen many people and political webs come and go. In light of recent events I can't help but disagree with all the folks saying the game is going to die from this. In fact, I actually think it's going to head the opposite way. The best example I've seen made for this argument was one of Prefontaine explaining that these alliances disbanding might end up fine for the game due to pushing members with ambitions to do great things going on to pursue their ambitions. He pointed out that when he departed TEst they essentially vanished as the TEst we knew but out of it came Knights Templar and others came from the ashes of it. The coming months are going to be rich with opportunity for anyone who wants to get their name out their and give the realpolitik a go. I absolutely implore you to chase your ambitions, nearly none of the large alliances around want anything to do with committing to a new war, there will be tons of people looking for new long term homes, and the whole treaty web is due to have a shake up with alliances being just removed from it. I think a good handful of us are looking forward to see where things go from here, cheers to all.

I've settled for rose, and you should settle too

bring back yoso and strum, make bk great again

Where is anson? Ask him about that cheat rose did.

Can’t wait for a year or so from now when some of these salty bois reroll to come back after rage quitting now

Lmao they are literally breaking the law to fund their war in this game.... and you guys are defending them for it? I do hope that those who genuinely want to play recover quickly, regardless of sphere.

Agian this answer is just as useless as the one Roq posted. I was asking about the roq post because it seemed more reliable, while still not really answering anything.

Are you talking about this? Where your leader says "we don't know anymore"

Because they care about the PR of having an alliance prematurely leave the war, it gives the other side even more leverage in negotiations and in the long run hurts your chances of making friends. What did I spin? He literally said KT was exempt. Then I asked a question.

And yet you just posted why KT isn't allowed the same courtesy. Was that an official statement and you're just the messenger?

So you meant to say: Your whole coalition decided it would only negotiate peace as a unified coalition, therefore you never seeked an individual surrender. The option has always been there except for KT, Rose, TGH, TKR, GoB, t$, and a few others.

How many more of you are going to Paris? @Dynamic