Political Ideology

[James Gordon]

Please elaborate on your ideology of you would like in the comments. I am a Third Wayist with some Fascist and Leftist views. So I use the term Centrist most the time.

[Arthur James]

So the left right is based on Communism Vs Capitalism?

Then majority of Americans are capitalist.

 

I forgot to say:

In the diagram of Europe, they put Facism and communism at two sides, while they are sided in the middle of the two.

 

If based on these two diagram, you can say I am also a centrist,

 

In the game of Hearts of Iron 3,

they put Democracy, Facist, Communist in the edge of the triangle, probably as Pro-America, Pro-Russia and Pro-Germany.

Edited April 29, 2015 by Arthur James

[Bored now Leafing]

This poll is clearly biased after all you forgot to include Sheogorathism.

[Kamehameha]

The left-right paradigm is obsolete and a relic of bourgeois revolution.

[Spooner]

Very silly poll.

 

I'm somewhere between anarcho-capitalist & libertarian. I lean back and forth depending on the year it seems.

[MRBOOTY]

I'm very pro-capitalism, but I also consider myself a liberal/progressive

I do see how you'd have trouble including in all possible suggestions

[Kamehameha]

So the left right is based on Communism Vs Capitalism?

Then majority of Americans are capitalist.

The majority of American bourgeoisie are capitalist.

[fistofdoom]

fiscally left-leaning and socially conservative

idk if there is even a name for it

[Franz Von Dietrich]

Fascism shall rain supreme.

[Big Brother]

Sticking with a single ideology in all situations and all nations around the world, is nonsense. You'll pretty much just end up like this:

 

 

Different situations and different nations require different solutions. Governments should ignore ideology and pursue the solutions most apt to solve their problems, regardless of political viewpoint or what manner of dogmatic doctrine these solutions are a part of. Pragmatism is more important than ideology.

[Red Huxley]

I truly don't understand why socialism or communism is liked or even popular. I don't think anyone would want to live under a government that does not value private property or capital.

[Oskar]

I truly don't understand why socialism or communism is liked or even popular. I don't think anyone would want to live under a government that does not value private property or capital.

Everything Harminator said and more. Socialism does indeed respect private property. Socialism is just when a government offers things to it's citizens for free. I agree that a completely Socialistic nation would not be good, but I think that there are some things that the government should give it's citizens.

[Bored now Leafing]

Communism/Socialism advocates the ownership of the means of production by government according to Marxist thought, and before someone wanders in and says "Not government but by the public" or something else along similar lines first understand that ownership means having sole say in what is being owned thus collective ownership of anything is a myth first because collectives are not beings they are concepts of reference to a multitude of beings and second because as soon as 1 person chooses not to go along with everyone else they prove that they in fact do not own the thing in question, thus the government AKA the guys with the biggest guns in the room own everything.

 

The means of production is thought to be the factories the mills the places where stuff is produced however if you take people out of these places nothing gets produced thus these places are not the means of production but people are the means of production so with that statement ownership of the means of production takes on a whole new light namely it means slavery, to own the means of production the people must be owned and if the government AKA the guys with the biggest guns in the room own the means of production then you have a slave state.

 

 

Everything Harminator said and more. Socialism does indeed respect private property. Socialism is just when a government offers things to it's citizens for free. I agree that a completely Socialistic nation would not be good, but I think that there are some things that the government should give it's citizens.

Socialism can't respect private property because the first property any person owns is themselves and as stated above to own the means of production is to own people.

Government can not give anything it has not first stolen to allow one group in society to steal with no downside to thous doing the stealing will result in time to the complete collapse of society as the idea of taking what you have not worked for becomes The right thing and that spreads in society as the trendy thing to do as each person encounters the people who can steal with no penalty they will want to do the same.

Edited April 29, 2015 by Quew

[Kamehameha]

fiscally left-leaning and socially conservative

idk if there is even a name for it

It's related to social nationalism.

[Red Huxley]

Because morally it is the right system.

 

Realistically on the other hand, it can't work in large populations. Greed and corruption are always going to be around.

It is also extremely popular with poor people who blame the richer classes and business owners (sometimes rightly) for their troubles and hard times. Taking things from rich people and spreading them around is very appealing for many people.

So, Socialists openly treat other humans differently based on the amount of money they have?

[Oskar]

Communism/Socialism advocates the ownership of the means of production by government according to Marxist thought, and before someone wanders in and says "Not government but by the public" or something else along similar lines first understand that ownership means having sole say in what is being owned thus collective ownership of anything is a myth first because collectives are not beings they are concepts of reference to a multitude of beings and second because as soon as 1 person chooses not to go along with everyone else they prove that they in fact do not own the thing in question, thus the government AKA the guys with the biggest guns in the room own everything.

 

The means of production is thought to be the factories the mills the places where stuff is produced however if you take people out of these places nothing gets produced thus these places are not the means of production but people are the means of production so with that statement ownership of the means of production takes on a whole new light namely it means slavery, to own the means of production the people must be owned and if the government AKA the guys with the biggest guns in the room own the means of production then you have a slave state.

 

 

Socialism can't respect private property because the first property any person owns is themselves and as stated above to own the means of production is to own people.

Government can not give anything it has not first stolen to allow one group in society to steal with no downside to thous doing the stealing will result in time to the complete collapse of society as the idea of taking what you have not worked for becomes The right thing and that spreads in society as the trendy thing to do as each person encounters the people who can steal with no penalty they will want to do the same.

*that's communism

[Kamehameha]

The most common kind of socialist is the bourgeois socialist Marx warned of. They do not truly support class revolution but instead most commonly take the form of "democratic-socialists" who attempt reformism of the existing capitalist system.

[Fox Fire]

None of this makes sense. The poll assumes that just because someone is left, they are a socialist. 

I myself am not sure which of these I fit into as I'm a libertarian socialist. 

 

Also, fascism is not radical right. It's radical centrist if anything.

Edited May 1, 2015 by Fox Fire

[Fox Fire]

Also, the amount of misinformed posts about Socialism here is mind boggling.

Socialism is a pretty broad term that has nothing to do with government. It's an economic philosophy that has no set definition among socialists themselves. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

 

Read up.

[fistofdoom]

Why cant someone make a 3-d amorphous ball and we can plot our political ideology on that?

[Fox Fire]

Why cant someone make a 3-d amorphous ball and we can plot our political ideology on that?

I prefer a square graph.

Like this:

 

That's me.

[WISD0MTREE]

I prefer a square graph.

Like this:

 

That's me.

I got 6, 1 on that back in Bloc. 

[Odin]

 

Hm... like ingame so to say. 

[Big Brother]

I prefer a square graph.

Like this:

 

That's me.

 

 

 

Close.

[fistofdoom]

iirc, i got on the line between the blue and purple, cant remember how far back along it though.