Clarke Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 i love the way everybody is upset over my name franco killed people, kim jong ill as well, so we should ban them as well? i reported eichmann as it was one of the top national socialists who planned the holocaust and is disallowed under game rules Well it would be wrong not to, if we don't allow Nazi names who brutalized people then why would we allow other people who brutalized people. Pol Pot is said to be responsible for over 1.5 million deaths of innocents. But that said I don't care what you call yourself, however it is wrong that Jews are given importance over others that died under brutal regimes just because they're just Jewish people that died. It's downright ridiculous and a blatant insult to every single damn human that died under other regimes and an insult to their respective race as well. If you're going to enforce a pathetic rule against historic names then enforce it against all the figures and not just the ones that killed people from your own religion as that is just bias. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Well it would be wrong not to, if we don't allow !@#$ names who brutalized people then why would we allow other people who brutalized people. Pol Pot is said to be responsible for over 1.5 million deaths of innocents. But that said I don't care what you call yourself, however it is wrong that Jews are given importance over others that died under brutal regimes just because they're just Jewish people that died. It's downright ridiculous and a blatant insult to every single damn human that died under other regimes and an insult to their respective race as well. If you're going to enforce a pathetic rule against historic names then enforce it against all the figures and not just the ones that killed people from your own religion as that is just bias. To be fair, it's sheepys game he can do what he wants, but I agree that we should allow historical names and just use basic human judgement to disallow times when they are being used to obviously be offensive. As long as it's not being used in an offensive way (purposefully being aggressive to those the historic leader discriminated against) I don't see a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiratePaul Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 But, guys.... the rule is no Nazism... not no controversial hiatoric figures. DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! YOU ARE A PIRATE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInZen Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The cancer this thread gave me is spreading Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Warburg Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) So some nazies that served in the US government for the cold war is unacceptable? Remember not every nazi was brought to justice. If us officials are banned that helped the cold war and end Stalin reign of terror which killed more people than any genocide. Now Hitler is by no means a good person, but one most love is strategy. If it weren't for Poland, they would've been an ally against US SR. Fascism and capitalism works better than the other options. If I name myself a different genocide leader, no one would care. That's being spoken ed even with 2 genocides happening today. Edited April 23, 2015 by Ultra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInZen Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 wut shit lock this thread, please, think of the children Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Warburg Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Yes, think of the children being harmed of not knowing history. Simple google search will provide evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonnorman Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Well it would be wrong not to, if we don't allow !@#$ names who brutalized people then why would we allow other people who brutalized people. Pol Pot is said to be responsible for over 1.5 million deaths of innocents. But that said I don't care what you call yourself, however it is wrong that Jews are given importance over others that died under brutal regimes just because they're just Jewish people that died. It's downright ridiculous and a blatant insult to every single damn human that died under other regimes and an insult to their respective race as well. If you're going to enforce a pathetic rule against historic names then enforce it against all the figures and not just the ones that killed people from your own religion as that is just bias. How i couldnt articulate something this well i dont know but well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 But, guys.... the rule is no Nazism... not no controversial hiatoric figures. Rules. We should never question them. They are always right. -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Warburg Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 How i couldnt articulate something this well i dont know but well said My problem here is constancy. Ban all genocide leaders, or none at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiratePaul Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Rules. We should never question them. They are always right.People seem to be arguing over why some names arent banned. The rule of Nazi related material not being allowed is definitely for the best. It is arguable as to wether or not names of other oppressive people or leaders/contributors of genocide should be allowed, but Nazism has caused nothing but bad feelings for everyone everytime it is used. DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! YOU ARE A PIRATE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seryozha Nikanor Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) What part of "NO NAZISM" dont you get? Well there isnt just one person who is named Adolf Hitler. A name can not be offensive. Edited April 23, 2015 by Seryozha Nikanor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiratePaul Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Well there isnt just one person who is named Adolf Hitler. A name can not be offensive. you are correcr in your statement that a name cannot be offensive, but what it implies and the actions of one who had the name make it offensive. So, the name is not bad; the implications are. DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE! YOU ARE A PIRATE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Warburg Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 No hypocrisy. So let's ban all genocide leaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonnorman Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Lets ban all names and stick to numbers. Eventually every name will be linked to some horror. Ill be number 54790332 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seryozha Nikanor Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Why is only references to Nazism banned? Stalins regime killed waaaaay more people than Hitler did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 We don't have rules against historical figures being used in the game. We do have specific rules against Nazism. Adolf Hitler was the leader of the !@#$ party. Therefore, naming your leader "Adolf Hitler" breaks the rules, which should be fairly obvious. There are no rules against "Pol Pot", and he's not breaking any of the other rules (trolling/flaming/baiting/promoting illegal activity/racism/etc.) so there's no issues there. Just because you think that they're comparable is irrelevant. The rules forbid one, they do not forbid the other, and for good reason. Thanks for defining that. Pol Pot never killed any Jews so it's ok. Thanks for pointing out the logic I find in it banning an Hitler user but not a pol pot Lets ban all names and stick to numbers. Eventually every name will be linked to some horror. Ill be number 54790332 Direct reference to nazism No hypocrisy. So let's ban all genocide leaders Not exactly a bad idea if one who is apparently more controversial than the other which is "Skewed Justice" -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInZen Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Holy !@#$ just when I thought this thread couldn't get any worse. Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Yeah I don't think the game should discriminate against people who choose to name themselves after historical figures, times or places. People are a bit too sensitive about these things but I guess I can't blame this game since it is common of not being free to choose these names is present on consoles as well I think and probably on most sites. But I guess it is too soon for that, we'd need to wait many more years before people finally get over world war II. I am pretty sure some countries still ban Nazi material/practices/ or exposure. Not doing so may result in legal problems. 2 Leader of UPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Holy !@#$ just when I thought this thread couldn't get any worse. If you are only here to comment because you don't like me, you don't belong on this thread. Go shit talk me on my profile or in game, not on my post. That's all I ask. Edited April 23, 2015 by Ansom 2 -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur James Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Pol Pot never killed any Jews so it's ok. Communist has class problem not race problem although they have common and different things with nazism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInZen Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 If you are only here to comment because you don't like me, you don't belong on this thread. Go !@#$ talk me on my profile or in game, not on my post. That's all I ask. It's not you, it's the other people posting. Sheesh. Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 It's not you, it's the other people posting. Sheesh. This isn't the IC forum, you can stop being a swine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInZen Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 This isn't the IC forum, you can stop being a swine. hurr durr there is so much derp in this thread it's not funny Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiki Mod Dr Rush Posted April 23, 2015 Wiki Mod Share Posted April 23, 2015 Sheepy explained this pretty clearly on IRC recently. Its not that one genocide is worse then another or that one groups of victims is better then the other. The difference is that one group came under the nazi banner & raised a bunch of shit. Sheepy decided the best way to deal with this was a mass ban on nazism. If one another group were to do similar things under a different banner he would in all likely-hood take similar measures. 1 23:38 Skable that's why we don't want Rose involved, so we can take the m all for ourselves 23:39 [] but Mensa is the cute girl at the school dance and she's only dancing with us right now to get our friend jealous 23:39 [] If Rose comes in and gives Mensa what she wants, she'll just toss us aside and forget we ever existed 23:39 zombie_lanae yeah I do hope we can keep having them all to ourselves 23:40 zombie_lanae I know it's selfish but I want all their love 6:55 PM <+Isolatar> Praise Dio Pubstomper|BNC [20:01:55] Rose wouldn't plan a hit on Mensa because it would be !@#$ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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