Prefontaine Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Why couldn't ya'all have left it at "friends going a different direction?" Because they're obviously not friends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) It was obvious that this will end in a hilarious fashion when you posted that MDAP announcement. You were all made to look pretty silly, but at least ESA had the balls to back up their words -- which is more than what can be said for some others. And trying to pass the buck of responsibility now, when you collectively agreed on something isn't good form, makes you look even worse imo. Edited February 26, 2015 by Saru Quote Second in Command of UPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) in the future you should get to know the people you're planning on signing with before you sign with them. especially in this world, where there is very little actually written down on paper. it doesn't even matter who did what or whatever... all of you look incompetent. Edited February 26, 2015 by Hereno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoS Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Why couldn't ya'all have left it at "friends going a different direction?" Ashland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirohito Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well, that didn't take long. Second what Hereno said. People really need to gravitate naturally into these things, and not force something that doesn't exist. Quote Grand Moff Hirohito of Dromund Kaas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicboyd25 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Best of luck ESA Dont let Ashland bully you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The United States of Terra wishes good luck to our friends at Earth Systems Alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwynn Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 in the future you should get to know the people you're planning on signing with before you sign with them. especially in this world, where there is very little actually written down on paper. it doesn't even matter who did what or whatever... all of you look incompetent. "It takes one to know one!" Seriously though, ESA comes out looking a bit better in my eyes. They wanted to back up the amendment that CC agreed to. No matter the wording of the amendment or who wrote it, the intention was clear. CC planned on claiming a sphere. It appears ESA was the only one willing to stand behind the words though. Quote He's right, I'm such a stinker. Play my exceptional game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisonchocolate Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think that the way this was handled was as well as it could have been, at least on the ESA's part. It takes a strong will to just back out like this, but it was the right thing to do. Even though mistakes were made, it was clear that the best outcome would be for ESA to simply pull out of the Council. There are no true friends in diplomacy, and it's silly to stay artificially attached for no reason. There are surely no grudges held against the other alliances involved, but we just had different ideas and ambitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknight Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Also, the amendment that we posted was already agreed upon by all parties, we posted it because one of ESA's members had sent a threatening message to Cynic about attacking him and was about to blow our peace sky high. And Cynic was threatening to ZI the poor guy. So we posted it to keep one of our ally's members from getting his ass rolled and possibly provoking a full blown war.As the ESA Interior Staff Commander I can personally say the matter regarding the threat from our member to attack another alliance was dealt with swiftly. The member was kicked from the Earth Systems Alliance ASAP as aggression is not our first resort and he had no authorization to send a threatening message. Even if we were going to send one it would be from our Admiral or Fleet Admiral and no one else unless ordered otherwise. Due to this incident our members that are not a part of the command staff have been barred from communicating with any alliances we have issues with to prevent further incidences like that. We look to diplomacy first, not war. We use the pen before the sword, but we make sure our sword is ready if we ultimately need it. Heck, if I sent that threatening message that our member sent I would've either lost my position or been kicked from the ESA! Maybe even both! That shows how low of a tolerance we have for such things like that, though we never had to enforce it until now. Edited February 26, 2015 by Darknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisonchocolate Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 The only thing I'm concerned about now is the possible conflicts that could arise in the future. Obviously, ESA is much more willing to back up their protection of the color sphere than the remaining Council; however, this means that there's definitely a possibility of disagreements revolving around events in which the ESA wishes to use force on an Alliance/nation that is a threat, but the Council is in opposition. In this situation, it's a 2-1 for the ESA, not a good situation. I can't think of any way around this, just putting my thoughts out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P2K Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think things will end up working out just fine for us. I am not to worried I know we have a great leader and a whole bunch of very good members with lots of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Fifths Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You should've raised the color bonus before withdrawing from the "bloc". Quote "In an honest service there is thin commons, low wages, and hard labor; in this, plenty and satiety, pleasure and ease, liberty and power; and who would not balance creditor on this side, when all the hazard that is run for it, at worst, is only a sour look or two at choking. No, a merry life and a short one, shall be my motto." - Bartholomew "Black Bart" Roberts Green Enforcement Agency will rise again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poisonchocolate Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Yeah. We do have the advantage of actually having good command structure and intelligent leaders, not just some guy who wants to create a cool Alliance. So far I've been incredibly impressed by the level of professionalism and seriousness of this Alliance. I love it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P2K Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 We do have the advantage of actually having good command structure and intelligent leaders, not just some guy who wants to create a cool Alliance. So far I've been incredibly impressed by the level of professionalism and seriousness of this Alliance. I love it. I second this, I absolutely agree and think that as long as we continue to keep members like me have now and make sure we keep members like we have now around we will grow to be a great alliance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeman Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Wow, thanks for the support. It is great to hear our members showing love. It is nice to know our efforts are being noticed and appreciatted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bagel Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 ESA in this thread 2 Quote <&Partisan> I'm roleplaying a not snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hodor. i'm going to say you would've be the best person to run CC. 2 Quote Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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