Popular Post Kastor Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 I think there needs to be a valid conversation about how much of an embarrassment that The immortals are. >Sat out and didn’t fight a war in over a year >Knew the war was coming and didn’t prepare. >Bled the most loot in Orbis history >Worst net in Orbis history >3.18 wars per member, when their allies TSC have more total wars than they do at less than 1/3rd of the membership. > -$200b in damages 3.18 wars per member at your BIG age is CRAZY. Where is the passion? Where is the drive? Tyrion, you are one of the most established players in the game. You can’t have your people deposit so they can’t get looted? This was the best you could do? Shame on you Tyrion. Latsu? Hahahahaha I don’t even have smoke for you, you should just be embarrassed. Maks? idk who you are but go ahead and resign. Just give Tyrion your resignation and retire. If you’re a member of Ti, you don’t want better? You’re good with this? Tyrion, Latsu, and others have led you to failure, plain and simple. TKR, TSC, Grumpy? What gives? This is what you want fighting alongside you? Your war was never even, it was also a dogpile because Ti is all empty stats. embarrassing. If you ally Ti going forward, just know you’re giving your enemies a free win and billions in loot. Ti is free rebuild. https://discord.gg/FTDKrCFy this is a personal opinion and does not reflect TGH in anyway Also, shoutout to Eclipse, WAP, KT, and others for exposing these frauds. 3 1 23 19 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukimiya Kenyu Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Join WAP guys 🙏💪 2 Quote That one Blue Lock fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Kell Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 How many alliances are this bad in reality but are being propped up by strong treaties and poor competition? 🤔 3 Quote Listen to J Kell's Album: About The Author An early member of Roz Wei in 2015, J Kell went on to stay within the paperless world of Empyrea before signing with Soup Kitchen while scoring a record deal in 2019. J Kell went on to release multiple Orbis Top 40 hits. In 2020, J Kell took a break from Orbis. He's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fine Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 10 minutes ago, Kastor said: this is a personal opinion and does not reflect TGH in anyway Nice save, I'm sure this won't be held against you in the future 😁 7 Quote Engager in Aristocracy. Pure Capitalistic intent. Spierdalaj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elesh Norn Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 Congrats to TI on -200b. Let’s see if they can break -300b next time! 4 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kastor Posted June 11 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 11 7 minutes ago, Fine said: Nice save, I'm sure this won't be held against you in the future 😁 What are they gonna do? Fight us? I am not worried. 1 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 13 minutes ago, Kastor said: I think there needs to be a valid conversation about how much of an embarrassment that The immortals are. >Sat out and didn’t fight a war in over a year >Knew the war was coming and didn’t prepare. >Bled the most loot in Orbis history >Worst net in Orbis history >3.18 wars per member, when their allies TSC have more total wars than they do at less than 1/3rd of the membership. > -$200b in damages 3.18 wars per member at your BIG age is CRAZY. Where is the passion? Where is the drive? Tyrion, you are one of the most established players in the game. You can’t have your people deposit so they can’t get looted? This was the best you could do? Shame on you Tyrion. Latsu? Hahahahaha I don’t even have smoke for you, you should just be embarrassed. Maks? idk who you are but go ahead and resign. Just give Tyrion your resignation and retire. If you’re a member of Ti, you don’t want better? You’re good with this? Tyrion, Latsu, and others have led you to failure, plain and simple. TKR, TSC, Grumpy? What gives? This is what you want fighting alongside you? Your war was never even, it was also a dogpile because Ti is all empty stats. embarrassing. If you ally Ti going forward, just know you’re giving your enemies a free win and billions in loot. Ti is free rebuild. https://discord.gg/FTDKrCFy this is a personal opinion and does not reflect TGH in anyway Also, shoutout to Eclipse, WAP, KT, and others for exposing these frauds. Agreed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinesomeMC Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 This doesn’t need a discussion? I thought this was common knowledge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xi Jinping Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) !@#$ based Edited June 11 by Xi Jinping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBeansTheIII Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 SFR go brrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themonia Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) I get the overall sentiment but half of the points are misleading. Sitting out for a year is a contributing cause of the other points, not sure why it's listed as an argument. They only very recently passed the most bled loot point in recent wars, it's not that crazy. Not sure what preparation you're talking about that they did not do. This is invalid, 200b isn't referring to damage taken unlike what Kastor wrote. -> The -200b sentence is the dumbest I've ever heard. Net could be better but for the damages part they had infra, like did everyone else. There was a global NAP with guaranteed ROI. I know you guys don't care about NAPs but this is very easy to see. Maybe if someone bought mercs on them they wouldn't have had so much infra to lose. Give them a go next time. Edited June 11 by Themonia 3 11 Quote Take no comment seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducc Zucc Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 12 minutes ago, Themonia said: Something I'm gonna take advantage of you bro... ❤️ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron JT Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Can’t wait for 2.5 wars per member! Quote Aaron JT Minister of Domestic Affairs Global Alliance & Treaty Organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hidude45454 Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 Downvoters are people who don't want TI to realize so they can loot them in a future war 30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBaku Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Based af post, I’ve been waiting to roll TI for so long. Everybody said it was an even war and I was like, it seems that way until you remember it’s TI over there 🤣 All I can ever remembering them do is dogpile or spam max navals immediately in round 1 during losing wars so they can stat pad damage before they roll over and die. And then post to their members about it like it’s some sort of accomplishment to buddy !@#$ the war effort by opening naval in mass against zero ships. I hope the age of TI dog 💩 MA is over. But I doubt it. They’ll probably just throw together another massive meat shield block, hide from globals, and roll some micros to regain morale. I don’t even really ever talk to TI ppl so the disdain isn’t personal. I think they’re probably solid everywhere except MA, how else could they be the biggest micro in the history of orbis for so long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Dream Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 (edited) Disclaimer: These are my personal opinions about this war and do not reflect the views of my alliance or bloc. But congratulations to TI for setting so many records this war! As someone fighting from ODOO, I've observed TI since the war began. It's become clear that they never intended to fight back. The low number of war declarations and the failure to deposit excess resources have made this obvious. Here are the stats from Locutus and CTOWNED to back my claims. 1. Out of 202 members in TI and TM, 149 have less than 3 wars. Only 13 members in TI have double-digit war declarations in this 24-day global conflict. Here's averages of other alliances: 1. Dark Brotherhood: 14.19 2. The Sword Coast: 12.91 3. Man I Love Frogs: 12 4. Grumpy Old Bastards: 10.98 5. Knights Templar: 10.48 6. Weaponized Assault Penguins: 10.17 7. Order Of Dawn: 7.94 (Training AA for LoD) 8. House Stark: 7.92 9. The Republic of Libertas: 7.13 10. Empire of the Romans: 7.02 11. The Fremen: 6.71 12. Legion Of Dawn: 6.51 13. The Knights Radiant: 6.25 14. Eclipse: 5.33 15. Weebunism: 4.08 16. The Immortals: 3.79 17. Heung Shing Corporation: 3.38 18. The Lost Mines: 3.15 19. Cult of Cthulhu: 2.82 20. SFR Yugoslavia: 2.48 21. Magister Mortalis: 2.33 22. Antarctic Pirates: 2.25 23. The Mortals: .96 (Training AA for TI) 25. The Commonwealth: .89 2. TI has a total of 632 wars, including Mortals. Here are the war totals for other alliances. Note that only Eclipse has more members than TI here: - Eclipse: 1,273 - The Knights Radiant (TKR): 1,186 - Dark Brotherhood: 750 - Knights Templar: 680 - Weaponized Assault Penguins: 649 - The Sword Coast (TSC): 607 - The Immortals (TI): 587 - Grumpy Old Bastards (GoB): 450 - Legion Of Dawn: 410 - House Stark: 388 3. 18 Immortals nations have lost more than half a billion in loot each. Eight of the ten most looted nations in the war are from TI. TI and TM combined have lost 44,085,871,578 in loot, with their training alliance alone losing an average of 68,850,806.06 per member. 4. Total damage dealt is a better performance metric than net damage. Comparing TI and TKR: - TKR: 163,253,203,208.72 - TI: 101,717,547,887.33 - GoB: 93,092,727,741.40 - TSC: 64,648,509,902.07 - The Lost Mines: 31,113,796,761.25 TI is 60 billion behind TKR in total damage. GoB may soon surpass TI based on recent trends. Note: TI and TKR have lost the same amount of infra, but TKR still has much better net damage stats than TI. 5. In the last week: - TKR: 20,595,649,830.28 - TSC: 7,107,994,628.33 - GoB: 6,972,906,732.87 - TI: 1,860,232,545.32 - Banana Stand: 1,647,933,169.29 - The Lost Mines: 546,430,014.93 - SFR Yugoslavia: 424,054,641.41 - Purple Flower Garden: 201,422,425.07 - The Mortals: -389,864,680.28 TKR deals over 10 times the damage of TI, with even TSC and GoB dealing over 3.5 times more. TKR's offshores alone deal more damage than all of TI, and Mortals get robbed more than they deal in damage. 6. In the last 48 hours, TI and TM have been robbed more than the damage they've dealt. Here are the total damage values: - TKR: 5,789,972,887.00 - TSC: 1,799,311,402.23 - GoB: 1,392,559,777.22 - Banana Stand: 295,829,497.77 - Purple Flower Garden: 172,579,657.68 - Cult of Cthulhu: 88,849,682.65 - The Lost Mines: 81,207,357.40 - R&R: 43,369,575.85 - Heung Shing Corporation: 32,896,680.94 - NeoVenus Construction: 26,297,701.22 - New Polar Order: 14,151,201.16 - Nerdys Dungeon: 10,146,392.30 - The Foundation: 4,482,959.41 - SFR Yugoslavia: -14,510,643.52 - TI: -135,499,399.33 - The Mortals: -163,769,736.21 7. Average damage per member shows how little damage TI members are dealing: - GoB: 2,270,554,335.16 - TSC: 1,375,500,210.68 - TKR: 877,215,161.5 - HSC: 596,916,891.05 - TI: 510,754,526.78 - SFR: 454,434,743.77 - TLM: 438,222,489.42 Even an 8-member micro alliance averages more damage than TI. 8. During the conventional war period, WEL ignored TI members for spying because they knew TI wouldn't spy back. WEL won the spy war. The stats show that TI never intended to win this war. They gave up from the start and have continued to let their allies down with empty promises. Despite claims of improvement, I've never seen a top 5 alliance perform this poorly. Since they don't care about the war effort, there's no need to reserve the criticism till peace arrives. Its not like they are trying to be good. So here's a lesson for ODOO and perhaps everyone in the future; don't ally TI thinking they've gotten any better. PS: If any TI gov member would like to present a different metric showing that you tried to fight, I'm all ears. And again, my views donot reflect the views of TSC, these are all my personal opinions. 4 hours ago, Themonia said: I get the overall sentiment but half of the points are misleading. I hope this isn't misleading 😛 Edited June 11 by Dream Added average wars/member 1 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingawoo Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 8 minutes ago, Dream said: Disclaimer: These are my personal opinions about this war and do not reflect the views of my alliance or bloc. But congratulations to TI for setting so many records this war! As someone fighting from ODOO, I've observed TI since the war began. It's become clear that they never intended to fight back. The low number of war declarations and the failure to deposit excess resources have made this obvious. Here are the stats from Locutus and CTOWNED to back my claims. 1. Out of 202 members in TI and TM, 149 have less than 3 wars. Only 13 members in TI have double-digit war declarations in this 24-day global conflict. 2. TI has a total of 632 wars, including Mortals. Here are the war totals for other alliances. Note that only Eclipse has more members than TI here: - Eclipse: 1,273 - The Knights Radiant (TKR): 1,186 - Dark Brotherhood: 750 - Knights Templar: 680 - Weaponized Assault Penguins: 649 - The Sword Coast (TSC): 607 - The Immortals (TI): 587 - Grumpy Old Bastards (GoB): 450 - Legion Of Dawn: 410 - House Stark: 388 3. 18 Immortals nations have lost more than half a billion in loot each. Eight of the ten most looted nations in the war are from TI. TI and TM combined have lost 44,085,871,578 in loot, with their training alliance alone losing an average of 68,850,806.06 per member. 4. Total damage dealt is a better performance metric than net damage. Comparing TI and TKR: - TKR: 163,253,203,208.72 - TI: 101,717,547,887.33 - GoB: 93,092,727,741.40 - TSC: 64,648,509,902.07 - The Lost Mines: 31,113,796,761.25 TI is 60 billion behind TKR in total damage. GoB may soon surpass TI based on recent trends. Note: TI and TKR have lost the same amount of infra, but TKR still has much better net damage stats than TI. 5. In the last week: - TKR: 20,595,649,830.28 - TSC: 7,107,994,628.33 - GoB: 6,972,906,732.87 - TI: 1,860,232,545.32 - Banana Stand: 1,647,933,169.29 - The Lost Mines: 546,430,014.93 - SFR Yugoslavia: 424,054,641.41 - Purple Flower Garden: 201,422,425.07 - The Mortals: -389,864,680.28 TKR deals over 10 times the damage of TI, with even TSC and GoB dealing over 3.5 times more. TKR's offshores alone deal more damage than all of TI, and Mortals get robbed more than they deal in damage. 6. In the last 48 hours, TI and TM have been robbed more than the damage they've dealt. Here are the total damage values: - TKR: 5,789,972,887.00 - TSC: 1,799,311,402.23 - GoB: 1,392,559,777.22 - Banana Stand: 295,829,497.77 - Purple Flower Garden: 172,579,657.68 - Cult of Cthulhu: 88,849,682.65 - The Lost Mines: 81,207,357.40 - R&R: 43,369,575.85 - Heung Shing Corporation: 32,896,680.94 - NeoVenus Construction: 26,297,701.22 - New Polar Order: 14,151,201.16 - Nerdys Dungeon: 10,146,392.30 - The Foundation: 4,482,959.41 - SFR Yugoslavia: -14,510,643.52 - TI: -135,499,399.33 - The Mortals: -163,769,736.21 7. Average damage per member shows how little damage TI members are dealing: - GoB: 2,270,554,335.16 - TSC: 1,375,500,210.68 - TKR: 877,215,161.5 - HSC: 596,916,891.05 - TI: 510,754,526.78 - SFR: 454,434,743.77 - TLM: 438,222,489.42 Even an 8-member micro alliance averages more damage than TI. 8. During the conventional war period, WEL ignored TI members for spying because they knew TI wouldn't spy back. WEL won the spy war. The stats show that TI never intended to win this war. They gave up from the start and have continued to let their allies down with empty promises. Despite claims of improvement, I've never seen a top 5 alliance perform this poorly. Since they don't care about the war effort, there's no need to reserve the criticism till peace arrives. Its not like they are trying to be good. So here's a lesson for ODOO and perhaps everyone in the future; don't ally TI thinking they've gotten any better. PS: If any TI gov member would like to present a different metric showing that you tried to fight, I'm all ears. And again, my views donot reflect the views of TSC, these are all my personal opinions. I hope this isn't misleading 😛 I thought you were dead, like TI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kastor Posted June 11 Author Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, Dream said: Disclaimer: These are my personal opinions about this war and do not reflect the views of my alliance or bloc. But congratulations to TI for setting so many records this war! As someone fighting from ODOO, I've observed TI since the war began. It's become clear that they never intended to fight back. The low number of war declarations and the failure to deposit excess resources have made this obvious. Here are the stats from Locutus and CTOWNED to back my claims. 1. Out of 202 members in TI and TM, 149 have less than 3 wars. Only 13 members in TI have double-digit war declarations in this 24-day global conflict. Here's averages of other alliances: 1. Dark Brotherhood: 14.19 2. The Sword Coast: 12.91 3. Man I Love Frogs: 12 4. Grumpy Old Bastards: 10.98 5. Knights Templar: 10.48 6. Weaponized Assault Penguins: 10.17 7. Order Of Dawn: 7.94 (Training AA for LoD) 8. House Stark: 7.92 9. The Republic of Libertas: 7.13 10. Empire of the Romans: 7.02 11. The Fremen: 6.71 12. Legion Of Dawn: 6.51 13. The Knights Radiant: 6.25 14. Eclipse: 5.33 15. Weebunism: 4.08 16. The Immortals: 3.79 17. Heung Shing Corporation: 3.38 18. The Lost Mines: 3.15 19. Cult of Cthulhu: 2.82 20. SFR Yugoslavia: 2.48 21. Magister Mortalis: 2.33 22. Antarctic Pirates: 2.25 23. The Mortals: .96 (Training AA for TI) 25. The Commonwealth: .89 2. TI has a total of 632 wars, including Mortals. Here are the war totals for other alliances. Note that only Eclipse has more members than TI here: - Eclipse: 1,273 - The Knights Radiant (TKR): 1,186 - Dark Brotherhood: 750 - Knights Templar: 680 - Weaponized Assault Penguins: 649 - The Sword Coast (TSC): 607 - The Immortals (TI): 587 - Grumpy Old Bastards (GoB): 450 - Legion Of Dawn: 410 - House Stark: 388 3. 18 Immortals nations have lost more than half a billion in loot each. Eight of the ten most looted nations in the war are from TI. TI and TM combined have lost 44,085,871,578 in loot, with their training alliance alone losing an average of 68,850,806.06 per member. 4. Total damage dealt is a better performance metric than net damage. Comparing TI and TKR: - TKR: 163,253,203,208.72 - TI: 101,717,547,887.33 - GoB: 93,092,727,741.40 - TSC: 64,648,509,902.07 - The Lost Mines: 31,113,796,761.25 TI is 60 billion behind TKR in total damage. GoB may soon surpass TI based on recent trends. Note: TI and TKR have lost the same amount of infra, but TKR still has much better net damage stats than TI. 5. In the last week: - TKR: 20,595,649,830.28 - TSC: 7,107,994,628.33 - GoB: 6,972,906,732.87 - TI: 1,860,232,545.32 - Banana Stand: 1,647,933,169.29 - The Lost Mines: 546,430,014.93 - SFR Yugoslavia: 424,054,641.41 - Purple Flower Garden: 201,422,425.07 - The Mortals: -389,864,680.28 TKR deals over 10 times the damage of TI, with even TSC and GoB dealing over 3.5 times more. TKR's offshores alone deal more damage than all of TI, and Mortals get robbed more than they deal in damage. 6. In the last 48 hours, TI and TM have been robbed more than the damage they've dealt. Here are the total damage values: - TKR: 5,789,972,887.00 - TSC: 1,799,311,402.23 - GoB: 1,392,559,777.22 - Banana Stand: 295,829,497.77 - Purple Flower Garden: 172,579,657.68 - Cult of Cthulhu: 88,849,682.65 - The Lost Mines: 81,207,357.40 - R&R: 43,369,575.85 - Heung Shing Corporation: 32,896,680.94 - NeoVenus Construction: 26,297,701.22 - New Polar Order: 14,151,201.16 - Nerdys Dungeon: 10,146,392.30 - The Foundation: 4,482,959.41 - SFR Yugoslavia: -14,510,643.52 - TI: -135,499,399.33 - The Mortals: -163,769,736.21 7. Average damage per member shows how little damage TI members are dealing: - GoB: 2,270,554,335.16 - TSC: 1,375,500,210.68 - TKR: 877,215,161.5 - HSC: 596,916,891.05 - TI: 510,754,526.78 - SFR: 454,434,743.77 - TLM: 438,222,489.42 Even an 8-member micro alliance averages more damage than TI. 8. During the conventional war period, WEL ignored TI members for spying because they knew TI wouldn't spy back. WEL won the spy war. The stats show that TI never intended to win this war. They gave up from the start and have continued to let their allies down with empty promises. Despite claims of improvement, I've never seen a top 5 alliance perform this poorly. Since they don't care about the war effort, there's no need to reserve the criticism till peace arrives. Its not like they are trying to be good. So here's a lesson for ODOO and perhaps everyone in the future; don't ally TI thinking they've gotten any better. PS: If any TI gov member would like to present a different metric showing that you tried to fight, I'm all ears. And again, my views donot reflect the views of TSC, these are all my personal opinions. I hope this isn't misleading 😛 W post 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Lord Tyrion Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 10 hours ago, Kastor said: I think there needs to be a valid conversation about how much of an embarrassment that The immortals are. >Sat out and didn’t fight a war in over a year >Knew the war was coming and didn’t prepare. >Bled the most loot in Orbis history >Worst net in Orbis history >3.18 wars per member, when their allies TSC have more total wars than they do at less than 1/3rd of the membership. > -$200b in damages 3.18 wars per member at your BIG age is CRAZY. Where is the passion? Where is the drive? Tyrion, you are one of the most established players in the game. You can’t have your people deposit so they can’t get looted? This was the best you could do? Shame on you Tyrion. Latsu? Hahahahaha I don’t even have smoke for you, you should just be embarrassed. Maks? idk who you are but go ahead and resign. Just give Tyrion your resignation and retire. If you’re a member of Ti, you don’t want better? You’re good with this? Tyrion, Latsu, and others have led you to failure, plain and simple. TKR, TSC, Grumpy? What gives? This is what you want fighting alongside you? Your war was never even, it was also a dogpile because Ti is all empty stats. embarrassing. If you ally Ti going forward, just know you’re giving your enemies a free win and billions in loot. Ti is free rebuild. https://discord.gg/FTDKrCFy this is a personal opinion and does not reflect TGH in anyway Also, shoutout to Eclipse, WAP, KT, and others for exposing these frauds. At least we have integrity and don't violate NAPs. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1810NX7Gf_oKnLQjyjjYwzUwa06LFhLMti8_9ZXAB2U8/edit 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kastor Posted June 11 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 11 45 minutes ago, Lord Tyrion said: At least we have integrity and don't violate NAPs. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1810NX7Gf_oKnLQjyjjYwzUwa06LFhLMti8_9ZXAB2U8/edit 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Lord Tyrion said: At least we have integrity and don't violate NAPs. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1810NX7Gf_oKnLQjyjjYwzUwa06LFhLMti8_9ZXAB2U8/edit It would seem you guys aren't active enough to violate NAPs 🤔 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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