Tomoya Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 To me, based off of my experience of any alliance in Pixel Nations, (only referring for this) in the beginning there was no alliance tax. Members tended to be more active, and they also tended to be a lot stronger before taxing. They most of the time taxed themselfs, by donating and were repayed when the war started. ( I was in ACI which was a huge warring alliance). plus in politics and war, after just beginning, ten percent of my money being taxed by any alliance because i need protection, is killing my income, so i am wondering. What is an alliance really too you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanislaw Sikorski Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Being in an alliance gives you protection and connections to people who can help you. During my time in VoC, I have received financial aid from the alliance and protection, I'm still in the top 300 so I'm happy with the security I get. Different alliances help their members differently but if you really think that your alliance isn't doing you any good, you should probably join a different one. 1 Quote Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoya Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 i have joined 3 different with a alliance tax on average of about 8 to 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanislaw Sikorski Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Which alliances were they? Quote Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livius Clades Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) The Brotherhood's taxes use to be lower but after a vote we increased the tax rate. This was before you joined Tomoya. If you need anything don't hesitate to ask for assistance. We'll help you the best we can, if you need me to buy resources off you to increase your revenue I will. I make 10,000 a turn, so I can help you if you would ask. Me, Lord Frostsword and iljohn are very active. An alliance is here as a safety net if you need help. If you need information on how to build things for example you need help building tanks our department defense can help you. We have an alliance bank in which you can make a request to use resources and improve your nation. We also have a forum you can contact us on. You just have to contact us to let us know you want help. Edited October 21, 2014 by Livius Clades Quote Fire is nice eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan I Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 In my current alliance, The Supreme Gentlemen, we have 5% coin tax and 0% goods tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 In this game, it's safer to rely on an alliance bank in times of war versus cash on hand. You should have faith and confidence in your alliance leadership to assist you with aid, but they can't do that if the members aren't contributing to the bank. The best solution to ensure everyone contributes is to tax the alliance. Sure, you take a hit to your nation growth, but if you're decimated in war and no alliance funds to help you recover, did it matter? It's all about team work. The membership usually has the power to enact change in their alliance. They can vote on a tax rate that the majority approves. If you disagree, you have the option to leave, pay no taxes, and see how far you get on your own. Or, you can join an alliance (or create one) with no taxes and see how prepared you are when the shit hits the fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted October 21, 2014 Administrators Share Posted October 21, 2014 To me, based off of my experience of any alliance in Pixel Nations, (only referring for this) in the beginning there was no alliance tax. Members tended to be more active, and they also tended to be a lot stronger before taxing. They most of the time taxed themselfs, by donating and were repayed when the war started. ( I was in ACI which was a huge warring alliance). plus in politics and war, after just beginning, ten percent of my money being taxed by any alliance because i need protection, is killing my income, so i am wondering. What is an alliance really too you? I think you make a great point, and it's something to consider when joining or forming an alliance. Do you want to pay an alliance tax? By choosing or forming an alliance with a lower (or no) taxrate you will see increased growth in your nation, but possibly not for the alliance as a whole. I think an alliance could definitely work without a tax rate so long as everyone was contributing money and resources voluntarily, but of course whether or not an alliance wants to work that way is up to them and not to me. Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsuper Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I was a bit skeptical at first, but my alliance gave me a significant development aid package that really kickstarted my growth. I'm happy to pay it forward later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Taxes exist to streamline the social contract. Nations inside alliances give up a small amount of income so that the alliance can give back to them in some way rather it be by means of protection or growth. Quote If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a roll. There is one you will follow. One who is the shining star, and he will lead you to beautiful places in the search of his own vanity. And when there is no more vanity to be found, he will leave you in darkness, as a fading memory of his own creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 But there are still alliance which are tax free. You just need to check at their page info and they do state it there. I think i came across a few , sometime back. So if you wanted to join an alliance without tax , it is still possible, you just to look for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 UPN had 3 nations in the top 10 before we instituted a tax. I prefer austerity over any form of tax myself but meh, I make enough money that it doesn't hurt me that much. Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm curious what is the tax rate of alliances in the top 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Sterling Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm curious what is the tax rate of alliances in the top 10? I'll give you a hint: between 0-100 Quote Genesis, best band NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'll give you a hint: between 0-100 Anyone in your alliance can answer so I guess I will spam them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Sterling Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If you really want to know someone said it in some other thread. Forget which one, but I know it's out there. Quote Genesis, best band NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 If you really want to know someone said it in some other thread. Forget which one, but I know it's out there. In my current alliance, The Supreme Gentlemen, we have 5% coin tax and 0% goods tax. Nope, same thread Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Sterling Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Nope, same thread See I knew it was out there. Quote Genesis, best band NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I'm curious what is the tax rate of alliances in the top 10? Pre and I both answered this on bootleg the other night, so no harm in repeating it here. SK tax rate is 20% cash, 10% resources Guardians is 20% on both. I've heard Socialist International's is 60% and 30%, but I only heard that secondhand, so I can't say with any sort of authority that it's true. What's DEIC's? Edited October 22, 2014 by Tenages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 FYI TEsts is between 2% and 100%. Hope that helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Pre and I both answered this on bootleg the other night, so no harm in repeating it here. SK tax rate is 20% cash, 10% resources Guardians is 20% on both. I've heard Socialist International's is 60% and 30%, but I only heard that secondhand, so I can't say with any sort of authority that it's true. What's DEIC's? 3% Cash, 3% Resources. Edited October 22, 2014 by Diabolos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurdanak Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The GPA currently has 0% tax on both cash and resources, primarily because we're far too lazy to use the banking system in the slightest. ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoya Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Whenever i say that, of course, i mean that all must contribute necessarily. In ACI we would have a tax rate of 20% during wars, and before when we were anticipating one, (very very often we were). It was thanks to the owner of the alliance that I was top 10 in nation rank for a while, and we were nuked at least once a week. Our nations grew well, and such. The way i see it in this game, although we arent being payed hourly, (which actually makes the game better for me, because im more encouraged to play daily) i will simply sell my excess food. I have no qualms with the alliances i am in, however it will just be slow rolling i suppose. Everyone is 77 days old and im 7 xD. Thanks for all the information guys. Tomoya~ Kaide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The GPA currently has 0% tax on both cash and resources, primarily because we're far too lazy to use the banking system in the slightest. ヽ( ｡ ヮﾟ)ノ And possibly because you don't want punish people further for being neutral. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted October 22, 2014 Administrators Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's interesting to see the differences between alliance and their economic policies. Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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