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Tevron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Treaties of allies > Your own treaties You're an interesting fellow. I'm with you Caz. I've been in blocs, the thinking process they're describing is not how blocs should operate. If anyone stands by that kind of statement their political capital will be burned to a crisp even if they manage to pull off a win. There's no reason to sign a Mutual defense treaty if it is now optional when direct attacks are made. A mutual defense pact recognizes an attack on your treaty partner as an attack on yourself meant to be met by your own military might. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatrix Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) So Mensa should hit Pantheon? Edited April 14, 2017 by Beatrix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Treaties of allies > Your own treaties You're an interesting fellow. ^ this is u Let me put this in terms you might understand. MDP = Acquaintances. MDoAP = Friends. Bloc = BFFs. BFFs come before Friends, Friends come before Acquaintances. Our BFF is at war with our Acquaintance. It doesn't matter who else it at war with them, because our BFF is fighting the Acquaintance, BK is not going to defend the Acquaintance as doing so would inherently make the Acquaintance better able to fight our BFF. Edited April 14, 2017 by Alveron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent W Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Mensa rn. Quote Former Imperial Officer of Internal Affairs and Emperor of the New Pacific Order, Founder of the Syndicate, Current Chief Global Strategist of the Syndicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 wat. Let me put this in terms you might understand. MDP = Acquaintances. MDoAP = Friends. Bloc = BFFs. BFFs come before Friends, Friends come before Acquaintances. Our BFF is at war with our Acquaintance. It doesn't matter who else it at war with them, because our BFF is fighting the Acquaintance, BK is not going to defend the Acquaintance as doing so would inherently make the Acquaintance better able to fight our BFF. You obviously have a deep and meaningful grasp of foreign affairs on PnW. Keep enlightening us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 wat. Let me put this in terms you might understand. MDP = Acquaintances. MDoAP = Friends. Bloc = BFFs. Our BFF is at war with our Acquaintance. It doesn't matter who else it at war with them, because our BFF is fighting the Acquaintance, BK is not going to defend the Acquaintance as doing so would inherently make the Acquaintance better able to fight our BFF. that's not how it works though your treaties don't have languages showing any of this, instead you have language with mandatory defense clauses if you don't want to honor your treaties just !@#$ing say so, don't do any of this bullshit "acquaintances". no, it's not an acquaintance. it's a MUTUAL DEFENCE PACT. if you don't feel like honoring them, just cancel them, don't play this bullshit game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 wat. Let me put this in terms you might understand. MDP = Acquaintances. MDoAP = Friends. Bloc = BFFs. BFFs come before Friends, Friends come before Acquaintances. Our BFF is at war with our Acquaintance. It doesn't matter who else it at war with them, because our BFF is fighting the Acquaintance, BK is not going to defend the Acquaintance as doing so would inherently make the Acquaintance better able to fight our BFF. You have a bright !@#$ing future in FA. You'll be gov in no time my friend. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 wat. Let me put this in terms you might understand. MDP = Acquaintances. MDoAP = Friends. Bloc = BFFs. BFFs come before Friends, Friends come before Acquaintances. Our BFF is at war with our Acquaintance. It doesn't matter who else it at war with them, because our BFF is fighting the Acquaintance, BK is not going to defend the Acquaintance as doing so would inherently make the Acquaintance better able to fight our BFF. Best post I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 wat. Let me put this in terms you might understand. MDP = Acquaintances. MDoAP = Friends. Bloc = BFFs. BFFs come before Friends, Friends come before Acquaintances. Our BFF is at war with our Acquaintance. It doesn't matter who else it at war with them, because our BFF is fighting the Acquaintance, BK is not going to defend the Acquaintance as doing so would inherently make the Acquaintance better able to fight our BFF. Actually let's explain those acronyms since apparently you're used to smoking hash instead of thinking proper. M stands for Mutual which means... (wait for it) (of a feeling or action) experienced or done by each of two or more parties towards the other or others. D means Defense! which means.... the action of defending from or resisting attack. P means Pact.... what does that mean I wonder? a formal agreement between individuals or parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 wat. Let me put this in terms you might understand. MDP = Acquaintances. MDoAP = Friends. Bloc = BFFs. BFFs come before Friends, Friends come before Acquaintances. Our BFF is at war with our Acquaintance. It doesn't matter who else it at war with them, because our BFF is fighting the Acquaintance, BK is not going to defend the Acquaintance as doing so would inherently make the Acquaintance better able to fight our BFF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 You obviously have a deep and meaningful grasp of foreign affairs on PnW. Keep enlightening us? TKR are cucks. I was surprised to learn that tbh that's not how it works though your treaties don't have languages showing any of this, instead you have language with mandatory defense clauses if you don't want to honor your treaties just !@#$ say so, don't do any of this bullshit "acquaintances". no, it's not an acquaintance. it's a MUTUAL DEFENCE PACT. if you don't feel like honoring them, just cancel them, don't play this bullshit game. we are honoring our most important treaty. if two treaties conflict, you go with the more important one You have a bright !@#$ future in FA. You'll be gov in no time my friend. i kno. Best post I've seen. thx bby ily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 TKR are cucks. I was surprised to learn that tbh we are honoring our most important treaty. if two treaties conflict, you go with the more important one i kno. thx bby ily Two treaties don't conflict. You have no treaty with SK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 TKR are cucks. I was surprised to learn that tbh we are honoring our most important treaty. if two treaties conflict, you go with the more important one i kno. thx bby ily Though Lordship is indeed a cuck, what exactly does that have to do with your current situation? Also, when can we expect you to defend Mensa from SK's unwarranted aggression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 thank you. yes, i could have used this pic as well, but I prefer the pic I included. I'll add this one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durmij Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Holy shit you're still going. Wew lad. 1 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjI4ROuPyuY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUEHv8GHcE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Two treaties don't conflict. You have no treaty with SK. But we do with Zodiac, who is at war with Mensa. Defending Mensa would necessarily harm Zodiac. Zodiac = BFF. Mensa = Not BFF. Though Lordship is indeed a cuck, what exactly does that have to do with your current situation? Also, when can we expect you to defend Mensa from SK's unwarranted aggression? I was asked to keep enlightening you all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward I Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I'm with you Caz. I've been in blocs, the thinking process they're describing is not how blocs should operate. If anyone stands by that kind of statement their political capital will be burned to a crisp even if they manage to pull off a win. There's no reason to sign a Mutual defense treaty if it is now optional when direct attacks are made. A mutual defense pact recognizes an attack on your treaty partner as an attack on yourself meant to be met by your own military might. that's not how it works though your treaties don't have languages showing any of this, instead you have language with mandatory defense clauses if you don't want to honor your treaties just !@#$ say so, don't do any of this bullshit "acquaintances". no, it's not an acquaintance. it's a MUTUAL DEFENCE PACT. if you don't feel like honoring them, just cancel them, don't play this bullshit game. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 LOL I know NPO are commies but I didn't think they'd pull straight from the commie propaganda book 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 But we do with Zodiac, who is at war with Mensa. Defending Mensa would necessarily harm Zodiac. Zodiac = BFF. Mensa = Not BFF. I was asked to keep enlightening you all You hold no treaty with SK,but you do hold one with Mensa. Doing harm to Mensa is certainly not in the spirit of your treaty, whereas doing harm to SK would in fact, alleviate some of their problems I'm sure. LOL I mean I may be on drugs here, but I'm pretty sure BK & T$ (The alliances against NPO) both had non-aggression clauses with TKR at the time, whereas............. Woah, SK and BK do not Got another strawman for me to slay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I know NPO are commies but I didn't think they'd pull straight from the commie propaganda book I just wanted to be included 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sans Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Might be waiting on that treaty activation for a long time. Don't worry though, I'm sure the'll pull through! Quote “ Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. †–The First Ideal of the Windrunners, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alveron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 You hold no treaty with SK,but you do hold one with Mensa. Doing harm to Mensa is certainly not in the spirit of your treaty, whereas doing harm to SK would in fact, alleviate some of their problems I'm sure. I mean I may be on drugs here, but I'm pretty sure BK & T$ (The alliances against NPO) both had non-aggression clauses with TKR at the time, whereas............. Woah, SK and BK do not Got another strawman for me to slay? p sure that i said we have a treaty with Zodiac, who is at war with Mensa, and Zodiac treaty > Mensa treaty. BESTFRIENDS FOREVER!!!! helping Mensa would hurt Zodiac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I just wanted to be included thank god for chrome extensions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevron Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 p sure that i said we have a treaty with Zodiac, who is at war with Mensa, and Zodiac treaty > Mensa treaty. BESTFRIENDS FOREVER!!!! helping Mensa would hurt Zodiac. So your entire logic is, your other mutual treaties are invalidated by your bloc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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