Popular Post Rozalia Posted June 12, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/12/orlando-shooting-nightclub-pulse-gunman Whose got a hashtag handy? Also lets take a minute to remember that the real victims here are the Muslims. Additionally if you kill your enemies they win, and if they kill you then you win so we're up 50 points. Just a billion or so more points to go and it's checkmate. Condolences to the victims, unless of course they belong to the stupidest people to walk the planet then I'm afraid it's just nature taking it's course. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Valko Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I find it sad that these madmen are just ruining the reputation of everyone in their religion, when most do not deserve as such... Also, Roz, there's an extraordinarily large amount of shootings in America, mostly committed by Christians, so why don't we see you report on those? Or do they just not fit in to your campaign against the Muslims? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peter Quill Posted June 12, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2016 Roz is apparently now a full-blown lunatic. 8 Quote <&Partisan> EAT THE SHIT <blacklabel> lol @ ever caring about how much you matter in some dumbass nation simulation browser game. what a !@#$in pathetic waste of life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 I find it sad that these madmen are just ruining the reputation of everyone in their religion, when most do not deserve as such... Also, Roz, there's an extraordinarily large amount of shootings in America, mostly committed by Christians, so why don't we see you report on those? Or do they just not fit in to your campaign against the Muslims? The NRA is responsible, got ya. Obama has to break up this NRA-ISIS alliance before it goes any further. I totally deny such a ridiculous accusation. I cherish the Muslim people. I've been in Muslim people, I'm that close. I'm the least anti-Muslim person. Believe me. Roz is apparently now a full-blown lunatic. I find your use of the word "lunatic" as an insult to be most offensive. Check your privilege. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Valko Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I totally deny such a ridiculous accusation. I cherish the Muslim people. I've been in Muslim people, I'm that close. I'm the least anti-Muslim person. Believe me. Taking after your idol, I see. oi, the Mexicans aren't bad at all! tacos! yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Taking after your idol, I see. oi, the Mexicans aren't bad at all! tacos! yeah! I am glad you have dropped your most offensive accusation. I can see how you might think such things but I assure you that you were incorrect. The culprit we must admit however does belong to a most dangerous group. The Mexican people have a great spirit yes. Oh and Do. Not. Doubt. The. Taco. You underestimate it's power and effectiveness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trump Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 https://islamqa.info/en/38622 38622: The punishment for homosexualityWhat is the punishment for homosexuality? Is there any differentiation between the one who does it and the one to whom it is done?. Published Date: 2006-03-14 Praise be to Allaah. Firstly: The crime of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes, the worst of sins and the most abhorrent of deeds, and Allaah punished those who did it in a way that He did not punish other nations. It is indicative of violation of the fitrah, total misguidance, weak intellect and lack of religious commitment, and it is a sign of doom and deprivation of the mercy of Allaah. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)? 81. ‘Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins).’ 82. And the answer of his people was only that they said: ‘Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!’ 83. Then We saved him and his family, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind (in the torment). 84. And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). Then see what was the end of the Mujrimoon (criminals, polytheists and sinners)†[al-A’raaf 7:80-84] “Verily, by your life (O Muhammad), in their wild intoxication, they were wandering blindly. 73. So As‑Saihah (torment — awful cry) overtook them at the time of sunrise. 74. And We turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down and rained down on them stones of baked clay. 75. Surely, in this are signs for those who see (or understand or learn the lessons from the Signs of Allaah). 76. And verily, they (the cities) were right on the highroad (from Makkah to Syria, i.e. the place where the Dead Sea is now)†[al-Hijr 15:72-76] al-Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.â€. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi. Ahmad (2915) narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “May Allaah curse the one who does the action of the people of Loot, may Allaah curse the one who does the action of the people of Loot,†three times. This was classed as hasan by Shu’ayb al-Arna’oot in Tahqeeq al-Musnad. The Sahaabah were unanimously agreed on the execution of homosexuals, but they differed as to how they were to be executed. Some of them were of the view that they should be burned with fire, which was the view of ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) and also of Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him), as we shall see below. And some of them thought that they should be thrown down from a high place then have stones thrown at them. This was the view of Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him). Some of them thought that they should be stoned to death, which was narrated from both ‘Ali and Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them). After the Sahaabah, the fuqaha’ differed concerning the matter. Some of them said that the homosexual should be executed no matter what his situation, whether he is married or not. Some of them said that he should be punished in the same way as an adulterer, so he should be stoned if he is married and flogged if he is not married. Some of them said that a severe punishment should be carried out on him, as the judge sees fit. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah be pleased with him) discussed this issue at length, and he mentioned the evidence and arguments of the fuqaha’, but he supported the first view. This is explained in his book al-Jawaab al-Kaafi’ li man sa’ala ‘an al-Dawa’ al-Shaafi, which he wrote to deal with this immoral action. We will quote some of what he said: Because the evil consequences of homosexuality are among the worst of evil consequences, so its punishment is one of the most severe of punishments in this world and in the Hereafter. The scholars differed as to whether it is to be punished more severely than zina, or whether the punishment for zina should be more severe, or whether the punishments should be the same. There are three points of view: Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib, Khaalid ibn al-Waleed, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn al-Zubayr, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas, Maalik, Ishaaq ibn Raahawayh, Imam Ahmad according to the more sound of the two reports from him and al-Shaafa’i according to one of his opinions, were of the view that the punishment for homosexuality should be more severe than the punishment for zina, and the punishment is execution in all cases, whether the person is married or not. Al-Shaafa’i, according to the well-known view of his madhhab, and Imam Ahmad according to the other report narrated from him, were of the view that the punishment for the homosexual should be the same as the punishment for the adulterer. Imam Abu Haneefah was of the view that the punishment for the homosexual should be less severe than the punishment for the adulterer, and it is a punishment to be determined by the judge (ta’zeer). Those who favoured the first view, who are the majority of the ummah – and more than one scholar narrated that there was consensus among the Sahaabah on this point – said that there is no sin that brings worse consequences than homosexuality, and they are second only to the evil consequences of kufr, and they may be worse than the consequences of murder, as we shall see below in sha Allaah. They said: Allaah did not test anyone with this major sin before the people of Loot, and He punished them with a punishment that He did not send upon any other nation; He combined all kinds of punishment for them, such as destruction, turning their houses upside down, causing them to be swallowed up by the earth, sending stones down upon them from the sky, taking away their sight, punishing them and making their punishment ongoing, and wreaking vengeance upon them such as was not wrought upon any other nation. That was because of the greatness of the evil consequences of this crime which the earth can hardly bear if it is committed upon it, and the angels flee to the farthest reaches of heaven and earth if they witness it, lest the punishment be sent upon those who do it and they be stricken along with them. The earth cries out to its Lord, may He be blessed and exalted, and the mountains almost shift from their places. Killing the one to whom it is done is better for him than committing this act with him, because if a man commits sodomy with another man, in effect he kills him in such a way that there is no hope of life after that, unlike murder where the victim is wronged and is a martyr. They said: the evidence for that (i.e., that the evil consequences of homosexuality are worse than those of murder) is the fact that in the case of murder, Allaah gives the next of kin the choice: if he wishes he may have him executed and if he wishes he may let him off, but He enjoined executing the homosexual as a hadd punishment, as the companions of the Messenger of Allaah were unanimously agreed, and as is clearly indicated by the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and there is no evidence to the contrary; rather this is what his companions and the Rightly-Guided Caliphs (may Allaah be pleased with them all) did. It is narrated from Khaalid ibn al-Waleed that he found a man among one of the Arab tribes with whom men would have intercourse as with a woman. He wrote to Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq consulted the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib had the strongest opinion of all of them, and he said: “No one did that but one of the nations, and you know what Allaah did to them. I think that he should be burned with fire.†So Abu Bakr wrote to Khaalid and he had him burned. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas said: The highest point in the town should be found and the homosexual should be thrown head first from it, then stones should be thrown at him. Ibn ‘Abbaas derived this hadd punishment from the punishment that Allaah sent upon the homosexuals of the people of Loot. Ibn ‘Abbaas is the one who narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the words: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.†This was narrated by the authors of al-Sunan and was classed as saheeh by Ibn Hibbaan and others. Imam Ahmad quoted this hadeeth as evidence, and its isnaad meets the conditions of al-Bukhaari. They said: and it is narrated that he said: “May Allaah curse the one who does the action of the people of Loot, may Allaah curse the one who does the action of the people of Loot, may Allaah curse the one who does the action of the people of Loot,†and it is not narrated that he cursed the adulterer three times in one hadeeth. He cursed those who do a variety of major sins, but he did not curse any of them more than once, but he repeated the curse for the homosexual three times. The companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) agreed unanimously that the homosexual is to be executed, and none of them differed concerning that. Rather they differed as to the method of execution. Some people thought that this difference means that they disagreed about executing him, so they narrated it as a matter concerning which the Sahaabah differed, but it is a matter concerning which there was consensus among them, not a matter of difference. And they said: Whoever ponders the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning): “And come not near to unlawful sex. Verily, it is a Faahishah (i.e. anything that transgresses its limits: a great sin), and an evil way (that leads one to hell unless Allaah Forgives him)†[al-Isra’ 17:32] and what He says about homosexuality (interpretation of the meaning): “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?†[al-A’raaf 7:80] will see the difference between them. When Allaah mentioned zina, He described it as a “great sin†(faahishah – indefinite) among other great sins, but when He mentioned homosexuality, He called it “the worst sin†(al-faahishah – definite). This suggests that it contains all the essence of evil and sin. End quote from al-Jawaab al-Kaafi (p. 260-263). Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to homosexuality, some of the scholars said that the hadd punishment for it is the same as the hadd punishment for zina, and it was said that it is less than that. But the correct view on which the Sahaabah were unanimously agreed is that both are to be killed, the active and the passive partners, whether they are married or not. The authors of al-Sunan narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.†And Abu Dawood narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas concerning the unmarried person who commits a homosexual act that he said: He is to be stoned. And something similar was narrated from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him). The Sahaabah did not differ concerning the ruling that the homosexual is to be executed, but they differed concerning the methods. It was narrated from Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he is to be burned, and from others that he is to be executed. It was narrated from some of them that a wall is to be knocked down on top of him until he dies beneath it. And it is said that both should be detained in the foulest of places until they die. It was narrated from some of them that he should be taken up to the highest place in the town and thrown down from it, to be followed with stones, as Allaah did to the people of Loot. This was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas. According to the other report, he is to be stoned. This was the view of the majority of the salaf. They said: because Allaah stoned the people of Loot, and stoning is prescribed for the zaani by analogy with the stoning of the homosexual. Both are to be stoned, whether they are free or slaves, or one of them is the slave of the other, if they have reached the age of puberty. If one of them has not reached the age of puberty, he is to be punished but not stoned, and none is to be stoned except one who has reached puberty. End quote from al-Siyaasah al-Shar’iyyah, p. 138. Secondly: The one to whom it is done is like the one who does it, because they both took part in the sin. So both are to be punished by execution, as it says in the hadeeth. But two exceptions may be made to that: 1 – One who is forced into sodomy by means of beating, death threats and the like. He is not subject to any hadd punishment. It says in Sharh Muntaha al-Iraadaat (3/348): There is no hadd punishment if the one who has been sodomized is forced into it, such as if the one who did it overpowered him or threatened him with death or beating and the like. End quote. 2 – If the one to whom it was done is a minor and has not reached the age of puberty. There is no hadd punishment in this case, but he should be disciplined and punished in a way that will deter him from committing this crime, as stated above in the quotation from Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah. Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated in al-Mughni (9/62) that there is no difference of opinion among the scholars concerning the fact that the hadd punishment should not be carried out on one who is insane or a boy who has not yet reached the age of puberty. And Allaah knows best. what islam says about LGBT people... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Valko Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 https://islamqa.info/en/38622 what islam says about LGBT people... Do you want me to show you what the Bible says about them? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trump Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Do you want me to show you what the Bible says about them? how many christians do you see shooting up gay people? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 The NRA is responsible, got ya. Obama has to break up this NRA-ISIS alliance before it goes any further. I totally deny such a ridiculous accusation. I cherish the Muslim people. I've been in Muslim people, I'm that close. I'm the least anti-Muslim person. Believe me. I find your use of the word "lunatic" as an insult to be most offensive. Check your privilege. How many Muslim people have you been in? Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhan Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I am glad you have dropped your most offensive accusation. I can see how you might think such things but I assure you that you were incorrect. The culprit we must admit however does belong to a most dangerous group. The Mexican people have a great spirit yes. Oh and Do. Not. Doubt. The. Taco. You underestimate it's power and effectiveness. I think you meant he used to, as he is apparently dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Do you want me to show you what the Bible says about them? Old Testament Jewish Doctrine =/= 21st Century Christian Doctrine. You can pull up whatever verses you want from Deuteronomy (or any other verse from the earlier books of the Old Testament) all you want, but none of it applies to Christians today. Regardless, although Christians are not suppose to enter into same-sex romantic relationships and aren't suppose to kill homosexuals (doing either would be sinful), homosexual sexual relations is still utterly disgusting and against the Will of God (just like how sex outside of marriage in general is). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I find it sad that these madmen are just ruining the reputation of everyone in their religion, when most do not deserve as such... Even without all the terrorists and criminals the religion has a terrible reputation because of its barbaric nature which is what inspires the terrorists and the criminals. Its difficult to have one without the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreau Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) - removed for rule violations - Edited June 13, 2016 by Four alice/four/everyone Quote Signed by Sultan Moreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) - removed for rule violations - >Moreau III is a Muslim >Believe the killings were ''justice'' >Does not condemn the shooting BUT REMEMBER THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM BECAUSE ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE Edited June 13, 2016 by Four 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch Vi Britannia Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 >Moreau III is a Muslim >Believe the killings were ''justice'' >Does not condemn the shooting BUT REMEMBER THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM BECAUSE ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE >Lelouch is a muslim >Believes the shooter should rot in hell >Condems the shooter, shooting and the pointless death But remember! Focus on the negative aspects, focus on those "muslims" who support it 5 Quote Ex-Archduke of Defence for BK 3 minutes ago, Buorhann said: @Lelouch Vi Britannia - BK needs you, but they really don't deserve you. Thanks for the dankness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 >Lelouch is a muslim >Believes the shooter should rot in hell >Condems the shooter, shooting and the pointless death But remember! Focus on the negative aspects, focus on those "muslims" who support it But, see, Lelouch, you're not a savage stuck in the 7th century. Unfortunately, many Muslims are stuck in the 7th century; as evidenced by the tens of thousands of radical Islamists who've fought for Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, the Islamic State, Boko Haram, and all the other Radical Islamist groups around the world (and the untold multitudes of Muslims who provide financial or material aid to those groups, or are even just indifferent to their atrocities). Not to mention the religious police in Saudi Arabia or Iran, or the political leaders in those (and other) Islamist countries who permit the persecution of women, other religious groups, and homosexuals. If you truly hated the chaos caused by Radical Islamists, then you should be support of people focusing on the negative aspects: It's important for people in the west to realize how dangerous Radical Islam is- especially now that Europe will be taking in millions of unvetted Muslims in the next few years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreau Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 >Moreau III is a Muslim >Believe the killings were ''justice'' >Does not condemn the shooting BUT REMEMBER THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM BECAUSE ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE Islam is a religion of peace attained through complete SUBMISSION to Allah (Glorified and Exalted), and fighting has been enjoined upon us while it's hateful to us [2:216]. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “A group of my Ummah will continue fighting for the truth, and will prevail over those who oppose them, until the last of them will kill al-Maseekh al-Dajjaal (the Liar or Anti-Christ).†Quote Signed by Sultan Moreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreau Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Thalmor is nothing but a CULTURAL "Christian" who has completely diluted every facet of his religion to suit his desires. Will he condemn God for destroying Sodom & Gomorrah? Is he calling God a terrorist/extremist? WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY? Quote Signed by Sultan Moreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lelouch Vi Britannia Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Thalmor is nothing but a CULTURAL "Christian" who has completely diluted every facet of his religion to suit his desires. Will he condemn God for destroying Sodom & Gomorrah? Is he calling God a terrorist/extremist? WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY? Honestly just shut up A good muslim is one who people see as a good muslim, you, people HATE, and you wonder why people hate the religion Edited June 13, 2016 by Lelouch Vi Britannia 4 Quote Ex-Archduke of Defence for BK 3 minutes ago, Buorhann said: @Lelouch Vi Britannia - BK needs you, but they really don't deserve you. Thanks for the dankness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Thalmor is nothing but a CULTURAL "Christian" who has completely diluted every facet of his religion to suit his desires. Will he condemn God for destroying Sodom & Gomorrah? Is he calling God a terrorist/extremist? WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY? God's modus operandi was dramatically different before and after Christ's death. God gave Sodom & Gomorrah many chances to change their dramatically perverse and wicked lifestyles, and they refused. Besides, I am but a mere man- God is God. I am not in anyway in a position to judge His actions- especially because my own knowledge and authority is very minuscule in comparison to Him (in fact, it doesn't even compare at all). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreau Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 God's modus operandi was dramatically different before and after Christ's death. God gave Sodom & Gomorrah many chances to change their dramatically perverse and wicked lifestyles, and they refused. Besides, I am but a mere man- God is God. I am not in anyway in a position to judge His actions- especially because my own knowledge and authority is very minuscule in comparison to Him (in fact, it doesn't even compare at all). You support the action of God in destroying Sodom & Gomorrah (a lot more than 50 people) for their homosexuality? Yet condemn the killing of Homosexuals in a Gay Nightclub and consider the attacker an "evil person" who God will burn in hell for eternity for his action? Are you insane or is your God your own lowly desires? Quote Signed by Sultan Moreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 You support the action of God in destroying Sodom & Gomorrah (a lot more than 50 people) for their homosexuality? Yet condemn the killing of Homosexuals in a Gay Nightclub and consider the attacker an "evil person" who God will burn in hell for eternity for his action? Are you insane or is your God your own lowly desires? You're comparing divine judgement from God from an event over three millenniums ago where God's own dealings with mankind were different to a mass shooting that occurred about 18 hours ago that was by a lone gunman. This isn't apples to oranges, you're comparing apples to cement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moreau Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) - removed for rule violations - Edited June 13, 2016 by Four four/alice Quote Signed by Sultan Moreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Leviticus 20:13 New International Version (NIV) “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. He is obeying the instructions of God in the bible and you claim God will burn him in hell for eternity for doing it? O-K-A-Y... Funny you would bring that up, because my first post on this thread address this: Old Testament Jewish Doctrine =/= 21st Century Christian Doctrine. You can pull up whatever verses you want from Deuteronomy (or any other verse from the earlier books of the Old Testament) all you want, but none of it applies to Christians today. Regardless, although Christians are not suppose to enter into same-sex romantic relationships and aren't suppose to kill homosexuals (doing either would be sinful), homosexual sexual relations is still utterly disgusting and against the Will of God (just like how sex outside of marriage in general is). Christians are under no religious obligation to kill homosexuals, murderers, or those who worship other gods. The Jews, back during the times that Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy are written about, were under a religious obligation to keep up those things. Things have changed since then, however. Christ was born, lived, died, and rose again. Today, there are only two vital commandments: Matthew 22:34-40 (KJV): 34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Read that last verse there? All of God's commandments, even Leviticus 20:13, even the rest of the hundreds of regulations that the ancient Jewish people followed, rest upon us living each other and God. That doesn't mean we can just do whatever we want; we still should obey our parents, work hard, stay away from drunkenness, not kill or steal, and not have gay sex. Furthermore, sex outside of marriage is equally was repugnant as gay sex. However, Christ forgave the woman that committed adultery: John 8:3-11 (KJV): 3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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