Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Who said I was saying anything about your mom in that post? I am not going to break it down for you. It is patently obvious you were heavily implying that I shouldn't have been born. Like I said that's a bit rich coming from the bstd son of a prostitute. Edited August 13, 2015 by Khilafah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELPINCHAZO Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 abortions should be mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It's not about that. It's about rape and how to best prevent it. The solutions I gave, however much you may dislike them, does prevent that crime to a large extent. Proof of this? ☾☆ Warrior of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 abortions should be mandatory. Lets have an abortion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Lets have an abortion today! Drip, drip, drop ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Proof of this? Death penalty deters criminals and prevents crime and it would undoubtedly solve the issue rape for the most part. Not saying it would disappear altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Death penalty deters criminals and prevents crime and it would undoubtedly solve the issue rape for the most part. Not saying it would disappear altogether. I can find random graphs that say whatever I want with sustenance on google too... Especially one's that contradict eachother. Edited August 13, 2015 by Lan Drip, drip, drop ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Death penalty deters criminals and prevents crime ... Not true. For a start, look at the correlation between US states with the death penalty and their murder rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I can find random graphs that say whatever I want with sustenance on google too... Especially one's that contradict eachother. Then take the one on the left from the "Bureau of Criminal Justice", they essentially say the same thing, and stop nitpicking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Then take the one on the left from the "Bureau of Criminal Justice", they essentially say the same thing, and stop nitpicking You realize the very large majority of people put on death row in the US are never executed, right? Drip, drip, drop ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Not true. For a start, look at the correlation between US states with the death penalty and their murder rates. They should take it a step further by broadcasting the executions of the criminals live on tv, very late at night of course (so kids have no hope of watching it), as a deterrence and they should not give the criminals "lethal injection" as that defeats the whole purpose of deterrence but a normal execution. Do that and then come back to me with prove that there is a high level of murder or rape and i will give you everything I own. Murder/Rape will become a thing of the past for the most part, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 They should take it a step further by broadcasting the executions of the criminals live on tv, very late at night of course (so kids have no hope of watching it), as a deterrence and they should not give the criminals "lethal injection" as that defeats the whole purpose of deterrence but a normal execution. Do that and then come back to me with prove that there is a high level of murder or rape and i will give you everything I own. Murder/Rape will become a thing of the past for the most part, guaranteed. And while we're at it, we should go back to slavery and just force inmates to fight to the death in arenas for everyone's amusement. It's not like this is 2015. 1 Drip, drip, drop ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 And while we're at it, we should go back to slavery and just force inmates to fight to the death in arenas for everyone's amusement. It's not like this is 2015. This is not about amusement! This is about deterring wannabe criminals and preventing crime before it even happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) This is not about amusement! This is about deterring wannabe criminals and preventing crime before it even happens. Then why not just resort to torture like the good old inquisition days? Or slavery? We could also burn pagans at the stake, crucify heretics and gas Jews. Why progress when we can regress? You know why the Muslim world never advances? Because they never progress. :facepalm: Edited August 13, 2015 by Lan Drip, drip, drop ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The above post has absolutely nothing to do with anything and hence i will not be responding to it. Murderer/Rapist take a pick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Strange that from 1955 murders rise, while executions fall away sharply. Those graphs show nothing to suggest more executions lead to fewer crimes. I would put the 1990's murder rate decline down to better policing rather than an increase in death penalties. ☾☆ Warrior of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Strange that from 1955 murders rise, while executions fall away sharply. Those graphs show nothing to suggest more executions lead to fewer crimes. I would put the 1990's murder rate decline down to better policing rather than an increase in death penalties. What it shows is that when executions where high (though dropping), murder rates where dropping, and when executions hit rock bottom the murder rates immediately sky rocketed and when executions started to pick up again, murder rates began to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) What it shows is that when executions where high (though dropping), murder rates where dropping, and when executions hit rock bottom the murder rates immediately sky rocketed and when executions started to pick up again, murder rates began to drop. What it doesn't take into consideration is the war, American society at the time, nor does it provide what is being defined as murder. Countless factors are not taken into account in simple graphs, only one simple statistic. Which is why they are meaningless without a proper and full argument. Graphs without explanation, argument or sustenance are just that. Edited August 14, 2015 by Lan Drip, drip, drop ヽ( 。ヮ゚)ノ "Jump on the crazy brain gravy train!" (。□゚ノ)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hysteria Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If the death penalty was effective there would be no murder. Why do states without the death penalty have lower murder rates? ☾☆ Priest of Dio º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think you are missing my point. I am more of a fatalist, and if we make abortion illegal than we just create an underground/black market scene. And, we all know those in the underground, don't always value safety or health. So, my point is, if people are going to get it, why not give them a safe legal alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 What we should do is crucify murderers and rapists in public squares. That would deter other people from committing crimes. Maybe for minor crimes we can just crucify people a little before un-nailing them. I'd also like to point out that both men and women should wear modest clothing as a rape prevention target, and so hazmat suits should be mandatory for everyone. I'd also suggest that we all have those little things teletubbies have on their heads surgically grafted on. It would be impossible to rape someone with that waving around in your face. ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellUrGrlThx Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 So where did we get on the this shouldn't be a man's decision because it doesn't affect his body at all? Also I think I read something about sex happening means you are willing to have a child... yaaaaaa. I don't have sex to make a child. I have sex because it feels good. Your perception of the current culture is wrong and you should feel bad for thinking it was any different. ☾☆ Priest of Dio º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISD0MTREE Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If the death penalty was effective there would be no murder. So if taking fire-preventative measures were effective, then there wouldn't be any fires? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyubnyan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 And while we're at it, we should go back to slavery and just force inmates to fight to the death in arenas for everyone's amusement. It's not like this is 2015. You should watch Dead man wonderland. Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim (Banned) Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) So if taking fire-preventative measures were effective, then there wouldn't be any fires? They have nothing and they know it, but they insist on throwing stuff out there hoping it would stick Murderer/Rapist take your pick: Edited August 14, 2015 by Khilafah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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