Dwemyrn Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) It appears people like to report others for offensive names even though their name could technically be considered just as offensive. I'm sure a lot of these reports are a waste of mod's time so I would ask that we could have what an "offensive name" is to be better defined. My personal opinion is you should not be able to report a leader's name as offensive if the leader name is a historical regardless of what their roll in history is/was. This is a nation simulator so those names make sense regardless of who may get butthurt, needless to say historical figure's names should be justified. The constant reporting over petty crap in this game needs to be dealt with and if better defining things helps, then we should be doing so. Edited April 21, 2015 by Ansom 1 -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted April 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted April 21, 2015 We have specific rules against Nazism, so anything related to the Nazis, etc. should be reported so we can remove it. Other inappropriate names are going to be fairly obvious, ones that include profanity, racism, vulgar words, and other offensive stuff. It's pretty easy to look at a report and either ignore it or take action, so go ahead and report names that you think might be inappropriate. Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 We have specific rules against Nazism, so anything related to the Nazis, etc. should be reported so we can remove it. Other inappropriate names are going to be fairly obvious, ones that include profanity, racism, vulgar words, and other offensive stuff. It's pretty easy to look at a report and either ignore it or take action, so go ahead and report names that you think might be inappropriate. I'm referring to names, like if someone decided to name their leader Adolf Hitler which is a historical figure and I see no wrong in using one, however that being said, someone with the name pol pot shouldn't be able to report someone named Eichman because that is the definition of hipocracy. His nation is equally offensive, and to be fair, if that were a bad and offensive, both of their names should be changed, one would think. -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah I don't think the game should discriminate against people who choose to name themselves after historical figures, times or places. People are a bit too sensitive about these things but I guess I can't blame this game since it is common of not being free to choose these names is present on consoles as well I think and probably on most sites. But I guess it is too soon for that, we'd need to wait many more years before people finally get over world war II. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah I don't think the game should discriminate against people who choose to name themselves after historical figures, times or places. People are a bit too sensitive about these things but I guess I can't blame this game since it is common of not being free to choose these names is present on consoles as well I think and probably on most sites. But I guess it is too soon for that, we'd need to wait many more years before people finally get over world war II. Thank you for agreeing. I see vulgar names more of a rule break than historical figures. -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Jong-Il Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'm referring to names, like if someone decided to name their leader Adolf Hitler which is a historical figure and I see no wrong in using one, however that being said, someone with the name pol pot shouldn't be able to report someone named Eichman because that is the definition of hipocracy. His nation is equally offensive, and to be fair, if that were a bad and offensive, both of their names should be changed, one would think. What part of "NO NAZISM" dont you get? 1 The many forms of proof regarding Kastor's sexuality: - Kastor: I already came out the closet. - MaIone: I'm gay * MaIone is now known as Kastor - Henri: i'm a !@#$it Skable: the !@#$ is a codo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Fifths Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Offensive names = deez nutz "In an honest service there is thin commons, low wages, and hard labor; in this, plenty and satiety, pleasure and ease, liberty and power; and who would not balance creditor on this side, when all the hazard that is run for it, at worst, is only a sour look or two at choking. No, a merry life and a short one, shall be my motto." - Bartholomew "Black Bart" Roberts Green Enforcement Agency will rise again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Jong-Il Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Offensive names = deez nutz OHH, GOT EEEM 1 The many forms of proof regarding Kastor's sexuality: - Kastor: I already came out the closet. - MaIone: I'm gay * MaIone is now known as Kastor - Henri: i'm a !@#$it Skable: the !@#$ is a codo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Fire Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I'm referring to names, like if someone decided to name their leader Adolf Hitler which is a historical figure and I see no wrong in using one, however that being said, someone with the name pol pot shouldn't be able to report someone named Eichman because that is the definition of hipocracy. His nation is equally offensive, and to be fair, if that were a bad and offensive, both of their names should be changed, one would think. What's wrong with Eichmann? _________________________________________________________________ <Jroc> I heard \ is an anagram of cocaine<\> I can't be rearranged into a line, I already am a line. --Foxburo Wiki-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 What's wrong with Eichmann? go read pol pots report. He was made as an example because he was the most recent one to pull the hipocracy claiming their name was offensive when his would technically fall under the same sort of "offensiveness." -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 What part of "NO NAZISM" dont you get? It is still a historic figure and is quite debatable so I would appreciate if you would take this seriously or just stay off the thread. -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willam von Waldreich Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 In all honesty I think with the exception of vulgar or curse word style names I think even saying "no nazi based names" is in some respects going against the idea of freedom of choice. I mean yes, I understand the idea that Hitler was a bad man and the name incites anger to some people...but that being said some people hate Barney the purple dino or Pewee Hurman and yet those would be considered acceptable. I think its just a slippery slope when you talk about these kinds of issues and you start banning certain items that could be seen as taking away from the freedom of players...that said...that's only my opinion so I digress. The United States of Belveria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Jong-Il Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 It is still a historic figure and is quite debatable so I would appreciate if you would take this seriously or just stay off the thread. I am taking this seriously. There were neo-nazis in this game before, and they were promoting genocide. If you don't like Sheepy's rules, go find a different game that will suit your needs. The many forms of proof regarding Kastor's sexuality: - Kastor: I already came out the closet. - MaIone: I'm gay * MaIone is now known as Kastor - Henri: i'm a !@#$it Skable: the !@#$ is a codo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Jong-Il Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 In all honesty I think with the exception of vulgar or curse word style names I think even saying "no !@#$ based names" is in some respects going against the idea of freedom of choice. I mean yes, I understand the idea that Hitler was a bad man and the name incites anger to some people...but that being said some people hate Barney the purple dino or Pewee Hurman and yet those would be considered acceptable. I think its just a slippery slope when you talk about these kinds of issues and you start banning certain items that could be seen as taking away from the freedom of players...that said...that's only my opinion so I digress. The name itself is what is being concidered sensitive. I don't neccesarily aggree with every one of the rules Sheepy made, but they're still rules and you will either follow them or face the conciquenses The many forms of proof regarding Kastor's sexuality: - Kastor: I already came out the closet. - MaIone: I'm gay * MaIone is now known as Kastor - Henri: i'm a !@#$it Skable: the !@#$ is a codo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwemyrn Posted April 22, 2015 Author Share Posted April 22, 2015 I am taking this seriously. There were neo-nazis in this game before, and they were promoting genocide. If you don't like Sheepy's rules, go find a different game that will suit your needs. I don't care. I didn't say someone should make a neo-nazi nation, but adolph hitler is just a historic leader. The amount of butthurt you are presenting over petty s--- is ridiculous but it makes sense being your profile picture is of "Shrek is love, Shrek is life" -removed by thor- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted April 22, 2015 Administrators Share Posted April 22, 2015 I'm referring to names, like if someone decided to name their leader Adolf Hitler which is a historical figure and I see no wrong in using one, however that being said, someone with the name pol pot shouldn't be able to report someone named Eichman because that is the definition of hipocracy. His nation is equally offensive, and to be fair, if that were a bad and offensive, both of their names should be changed, one would think. We don't have rules against historical figures being used in the game. We do have specific rules against Nazism. Adolf Hitler was the leader of the Nazi party. Therefore, naming your leader "Adolf Hitler" breaks the rules, which should be fairly obvious. There are no rules against "Pol Pot", and he's not breaking any of the other rules (trolling/flaming/baiting/promoting illegal activity/racism/etc.) so there's no issues there. Just because you think that they're comparable is irrelevant. The rules forbid one, they do not forbid the other, and for good reason. 2 Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 There are no rules against "Pol Pot", and he's not breaking any of the other rules (racism) so there's no issues there. Well...other than the name 'Pol Pot' could be considered racist by laotians, chinese, vietnamese, etc. But those folks who lived in Cambodia are not complaining about anything anymore so I guess you have a point! -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Well...other than the name 'Pol Pot' could be considered racist by laotians, chinese, vietnamese, etc. But those folks who lived in Cambodia are not complaining about anything anymore so I guess you have a point! Pol Pot never killed any Jews so it's ok. Edited April 22, 2015 by Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigInZen Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 seriously. 1 Priest of Dio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeiffer Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I keep kosher, please ban this Pig person. ☾☆ Chairman Emeritus of Mensa HQ ☾☆ "It's not about the actual fish, themselves. Fish are not important in this context. It's about fish-ing, the act of fishing itself." -Jack O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeiffer Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 They were probably trashed, but I can see where Sheepy was coming from with a Nazi specific rule. Those guys are all over the internet, and have apparently caused a problem here before. ☾☆ Chairman Emeritus of Mensa HQ ☾☆ "It's not about the actual fish, themselves. Fish are not important in this context. It's about fish-ing, the act of fishing itself." -Jack O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonnorman Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I mean stalin killed 20 million russians maybe even more for being against his rule and people can use that name, german national socialism or Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei which is what Nazi stands for is a totally different point of view than that of heinrich himmler and the ss or schutzstaffel who were actually the murderers of ALL races ALL religions ALL deformities mentally and physically. If someone wants to have a leadership name of a government that they believe was an effective system (of course minus the murder) what is actually the problem? racists and dickweeds need banned yes and when theyre acting out in the forums its a terrible thing but assuming names are offensive just because there is bad history doesnt mean its being used for racism and the person being "offended" is merely trying to gain attention and therefore needs banned for slander which is way more offensive. Thats my 0.02 even though its like teaching algebra to rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The reason is historical and subconcious racist itself. Idi Amin, Bokassa, Mugabe killing thousand of blacks who look all the same (to the western world)... western world: whatever. PolPot and Mao killing peasant asian who look all the same (to the western world) ... western world: whatever. Stalin killing russian .... western world: that ass, ....whatever, they won the war alongside us and are just commies. Hitler killing jews... western world: They were one of ours! (Capitalists(most), white and speaking western languages.) No intention to sound racists here, you know what i mean, for example copy/paste army: http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/153075.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 How does it 'work'? 1 -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pol Pot Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 i love the way everybody is upset over my name franco killed people, kim jong ill as well, so we should ban them as well? i reported eichmann as it was one of the top national socialists who planned the holocaust and is disallowed under game rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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