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I can already tell this thread will be golden.

 

It's not semantics and maybe you don't even know what that word means or the context it's used in.  If some UPN/DEIC members would face reality then we could move on to something more interesting. 

 

Seems to me like you are the one who needs his memory refreshed. Semantics; "the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. The two main areas are logical semantics, concerned with matters such as sense and reference and presupposition and implication, and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them."

 

 

I'm fairly sure the only people bothered about them being aggressive are themselves. I love all the people saying can you please stop discussing the issue. It's alliance politics and this is an issue you guys are clearly embarrassed about, why would we stop discussing it its hilarious.

 

If you wanted to keep on discussing the issue then you could of found the relevant threads where previous posts on the topic were made. It would help the intellectual discourse ( if you can call it that, at this stage.) No need to derail yet another topic. And embarrassed about what? The matter is trivial and virtually of no consequence to us.

 

So I'll have my last say on this matter. Whether you view TAC as the aggressors or not is irrelevant -- and for the sake of argument, let's say I conceded that point. What matters is that the pre-emptive strike was reactive to TAC's plot and with very valid justification.

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Seems to me like you are the one who needs his memory refreshed. Semantics; "the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning. The two main areas are logical semantics, concerned with matters such as sense and reference and presupposition and implication, and lexical semantics, concerned with the analysis of word meanings and relations between them."

Someones got his google bookmarked!

 

Lol, you still think you understand how that word is used.  You are persistent bro.  tom(ai)to tom(aw)to - aggressive defensive.  See the difference?  Let it go man.

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Someones got his google bookmarked!

 

Lol, you still think you understand how that word is used.  You are persistent bro.  tom(ai)to tom(aw)to - aggressive defensive.  See the difference?  Let it go man.

 

You are making yourself look like an idiot, given that you are objectively wrong.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_dispute -- Read. In this particular case it was the definition of aggressor, in the context of a war in this game, and operating with the idea that one of the parties are a defendant. So I will reiterate:

 

Whether you view TAC as the aggressors (*hint* this is the semantic dispute) or not is irrelevant -- and for the sake of argument, let's say I conceded that point. What matters is that the pre-emptive strike was reactive to TAC's plot and with very valid justification.

 

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Did Placentica just get schooled?


Losing a contest/game/battle/argument in a humiliating fashion while the other person shows you how it is done. They remain as cool as a cucumber as if it didn't even require effort on their part.

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Cut the !@#$ already and call this for what it is. You're protecting your allies who're assets to your greater aspirations... seeing them dismantled would only weaken your future position and so you're doing the logical thing and protecting them. There is nothing ignoble in doing that but contorting and contriving to make it something more then that just makes you look bad to anyone with half a brain.

 

I understand people have an obsession with taking the moral high-ground in order to justify a conflict, but there isn't anything more justifiable then power. So don't be afraid to embrace what you are in this world... every story needs their villains.

 

So enjoy the war and move on.

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You are making yourself look like an idiot, given that you are objectively wrong.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_dispute -- Read. In this particular case it was the definition of aggressor, in the context of a war in this game, and operating with the idea that one of the parties are a defendant. So I will reiterate:

UPN name calling, awesome man.

 

It's not semantics.  This is a case of spin, not semantics.  You are trying to paint it as a case of semantics, but it is not, lol.  So before you start the petty name-calling, go re-read what I said.  We both agree on the terms like "aggressors" or "aggression" and "defense" in their pure form.  And that's what you have to do in a semantic dispute, to resolve it.  If you defined both words in their pure form, unrelated to Orbis, I'm sure I'd agree with you.  So it's not semantics, sorry to bring you back to reality.  Lol, to prove my point, the link you sent me....I completely agree with it's definition of the term "semantic dispute". 

 

And besides all that, similarly, it's used in a more general form to be when two parties pretty much same the same thing, with different words.  In this case, we are saying 100% opposite of what you are trying to claim.  You've heard people say, "Oh it's just semantics, we basically agree".  We do not basically agree and it's silly to even try to suggest that as you are doing.

 

I never thought we'd have to have an English lesson from the wiki/urban dictionary fanboys.  Jokes on me for responding to your post when you are just going to resort to name calling though.  So +1 for you, well done.

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So why did you even bother lying about the two UPN who jumped the gun?  Integrity is complete #*@&*@#!

 

Congrats on making EoS look completely inept for attacking TAC.

I didn't lie, they should never have done that and I never said we weren't going to attack TAC. Honestly, only a fool would think TC had no intention of joining. However, it seems it was foolish to think that TAC's allies would help them.

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I never thought we'd have to have an English lesson from the wiki/urban dictionary fanboys.  Jokes on me for responding to your post when you are just going to resort to name calling though.  So +1 for you, well done.

 

I accept your apology.

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We both agree on the terms like "aggressors" or "aggression" and "defense" in their pure form.  And that's what you have to do in a semantic dispute, to resolve it.  If you defined both words in their pure form, unrelated to Orbis, I'm sure I'd agree with you.  So it's not semantics, sorry to bring you back to reality.  Lol, to prove my point, the link you sent me....I completely agree with it's definition of the term "semantic dispute". 

 

And besides all that, similarly, it's used in a more general form to be when two parties pretty much same the same thing, with different words.  In this case, we are saying 100% opposite of what you are trying to claim.  You've heard people say, "Oh it's just semantics, we basically agree".  We do not basically agree and it's silly to even try to suggest that as you are doing.

 

The key here is that we're not talking about terms in their abstract form, because there is a context to it, and it's that context which is making things blurred and causing people to misinterpret me. When we're discussing who the defendant is in this conflict, it is very much a matter of semantics, (OOC: just in the same way if you were arguing if Obama is a socialist) -- trying to argue that it is not, is making you look silly, because you're arguing against tautology (which is surprising given that you said you agree with the definition.)

 

Anyway I will reiterate yet again, because you seem to be ignoring me. Our differing opinions on the definition of defendant/aggressor in the context of this war, are actually inconsequential. The key and underlying point of my proposition is that the pre-emptive strike was reactive to TAC's plotting and had valid justification -- is that something you ultimately disagree with? 

 
 

Normally when there's a dogpile its because they want something though, what's the endgame here?

 

The endgame, at least from my perspective, is to nullify the threat that set out to hurt us and our allies. Nothing more, nothing less.

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The endgame, at least from my perspective, is to nullify the threat that set out to hurt us and our allies. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

You've put a lot of effort into nullifying the perceived threat against you. What will you have to achieve to feel that the threat is nullified?

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You've put a lot of effort into nullifying the perceived threat against you. What will you have to achieve to feel that the threat is nullified?

 

That's entirely dependent on the assurances TAC and the others can provide, when they sit down with us, and our confidence in those claims.

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