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So... Given that the rule differences between Nat RP, and Organic are such that they cannot work together properly. I purposed to creation of a Map of Earth for Organic.
Some of us are going to justify this IC as the temporal instability of PW-1(shown by nations just phasing out of existence on the map, and no one notices, and other timeline/reality shenanigans), cause a divide and the formation of PW-2(Organic RP). The rest of you can justify it as you see fit IC.

At any rate, this is the map we will be using: http://i377.photobucket.com/albums/oo219/CanOmer/V2_Blank.png
I am, as of now, in charge of the map. But if there's issues with my handling of it, perfectly willing to step down (while handing over all my files/etc)

About Rules: Claims, Expansion, Border Gore, etc
Now, as you can see on the map there are not as many plots as Evas. As such, instead of going by plot limit for claims, instead I think Eyeballing it for what's reasonable is best.
Expansion is something I am unsure of at the moment, and would like community feedback on.
I am willing to reduce border gore, and make national borders look better. Comparing the linked base map, and the map I'll post (with claims of my and Kressnia's MT national claims as reference) will show what I mean.
And about that! Until further notice, I will accept people having 2 nations on here. One for FT RP, and one for MT RP. There are some conditions; you cannot use your MT nation as simply a way to expand your influence. Don't operate the two nations in tandem, but rather as two separate entities. Additionally, you should make smaller initial claims if you wish to have two nations.
Also, during the monthly expansion, you must choose to expand one or the other.

Border Expansion Update:
Due to this being Organic, all border expansions must meet two requirements.
1) A logical case for the expansion.

2) RPing out the expansion, to the standards expected of organic. Spending at minimal 5 Posts, each of at least 3 paragraphs, RPing out the expansion.

This is the current rule for expansion in this thread. If you're expanding in an area near others, make sure to message or Discord people to decide what the local powers there would be like.
For example, Hellenis, Kingdom of Jerusalem(Kressnia's MT), and I have an Ottoman backstory to the Middle East and that bit of unclaimed land between Navenda and Hellenis is what remains of the Sultanate.

^All of the Above is subject to change due to community feedback. Without further ado, let's introduce the current Map claims:
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Edited by The Sacred Lights
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Thanks, Alice!

 

APPLICATION (MT Nation only, FT Pending):

 

Faction Name:  The Republic of Orange Free State

 

Capital City:  Bloemfontein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloemfontein)

 

Land Claims:  Bloemfontein seems to be located in a Province shaped like a flattened South America.  We request to claim that Province, along with a series of Provinces to its direct east, ending at the Real Life Port city of Durban (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durban).  This seems to, unfortunately, absorb the entire RL nation of Lesotho, but the explanation for that is below in the lore section.

 

So in total it's about 3-5 Provinces?

 

LORE/BACKSTORY:

 

The British attempted to secure the region of South Africa.  While they "might" have succeeded in the more Southern regions (in case someone wants to be Union of South Africa), the region around the majestic city of Bloemfontein remained independent.  The spirit of the Afrikaan, the Boer would not succumb to the red coats that quickly..

 

The Dutch are a proud people, but they are also a people who understand the need for diplomacy and mutual understanding.  As Amsterdam has been a center of commerce and tolerance of other peoples (the people of the city revolted against attempts to enforce specific religions upon them in the past), so too does Bloemfontein intend to uphold the reputation of its kin.

 

The African Native, who has existed on the Continent for thousands of years, has every right to exist and thrive.  His people have lacked much of the industry that the Dutch have brought to the region, but upon being taught in their use, he has proven to be capable of wielding technology like the White Man.

 

As such, while there are petty folk who believe that the Afrikaans should adopt some foolish and fatal ideology known as Afrikaner, an ideology that would alienate a large portion of the Free State's population and develop additional tensions between our peoples, they have been dismissed.  Yet some even suggest the policy of Volkstaat, as though sealing ourselves away from reality would achieve any useful purpose.

 

We Dutch of Africa are here to stay, and many native African natives have seen the benefits we bring and have pledged to join us.  The British may attempt to drive us from this land, but our coalition will stand strong.

 

EXPLANATION:

The Orange Free State has hastily attempted to industrialize various villages and smaller, mostly African native population centers in an attempt to resist potential British invasion.  Income equality is significantly higher than its infamous counterpart, but the unfortunate fact is that it is overall less 'secure' in terms of its most wealthy demographics or most well-fortified strongholds.

 

MAP:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jbdjo405h2x0fy7/Orange%20Free%20State.pdf?dl=0

 

(WORK IN PROGRESS)

 

NOTABLE FEATURES (hint hint weakness?)

 

Orange Railway (direct link between Bloemfontein and Durban)

 

Still racial tensions because even a nicer white-dominant government is a nicer white-dominant government in a region with majority black south Africans.

Edited by Shex

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APPLICATION

Official nation name: The Grand Triskelion Empire

Population- 100 million military personnel, inc flight crew, engineers, medics, logistics crew etc

 

Land Request- United Kingdm
 

Form of Government: Parliamentary Monarchy 

Describe your Nation IC: http://thetriskelionfederation.weebly.com/

 

Describe yourself in OOC terms:

Edited by TheGrandTriskelionEmpire

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Application: 

 

MT/PMT -

 

Union of Brandenburg Hansa 

 

- Historical German Empire Territory; Cantabria Province Spain

 

FT - 

 

The Kingdom of Waikahla-Pohaku'ula

 

- Claims: http://i.imgur.com/azfT29i.jpg

 

This will be a colony of the main Kawaikini nation

Edited by Schwieger

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MT/PMT:

 

The Imperial Kingdom of Andor

 

Land claims: Northwestern France (Bordeaux region diagonally towards Belgian coastline), plus a French-Spanish border province to connect to a Mediterranean coast, if this is acceptable.

 

Will perhaps enter with FT nation in a future post.

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Nation One:

The New California Republic
Capital City:  Sacramento, CA

President: George Clooney
Vice President:  Matt Damon

The Flag of the New California Republic

 

Nation Two:

 

The Republic of Texas
Capital City:  Austin, TX

President: Rick Perry

Vice President:  Mary Fallon

The Flag of the Republic of Texas

 

On This Map
Claims in Blue are for The New California Republic

Claims in Red are for The Republic of Texas

 

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APPLICATION (MT Nation)

 

Official Nation Name: Hellenis

 

Form of Government: Absolute Monarchy

 

Leader (Basileus): Leonidas Pelagios

 

Organic Land Claim: Greece and remainder of Anatolia

 

(WORK IN PROGRESS)

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App:


 


Nation: Icarius Faction Territories 


 


Gov type: Authoritarian


 


Leader: Mad Max (Max)


 


Organic Land Claim: Australia (if thats too big, start me out in Tasmania/Victoria)

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Application (FT): 

 

Nation: The Eternal Empire of Chernigov

Gov type: Imperial Monarchy

Leader: Alexei Mykhailovich Lysenko

 

Organic Land Claim: Ukraine

 

 

Application (MT):

 

Nation The Republic of Poland

Gov Type: Representative Democracy

Leader: Dawid Bukoski

Organic Land claim: Remaining parts of Poland
 

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APPLICATION (MT Nation only, FT Pending):

Flag:  Screen_Shot_2017_02_08_at_9_54_30_PM.png

Faction Name:  Catholic Kingdoms of Italy

 

Capital City:  Rome; Vatican City

 

 
Land; Screen_Shot_2017_02_08_at_9_15_43_PM.png
 

 

 

LORE/BACKSTORY:

 

The Catholic Kingdoms of Italy

We work in the dark, to serve the light - Motto - Prince Emmanuel Diaz

 

TBA

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Due to Hellenis and Kressnian players volunteered contributions. Map updated to allow Wolfie the two provinces of her claims, that conflicted with their pre-established borders.

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I am already a member of the Organic community, so I'll just ask for Nova Scotia, PEI, Newfoundland, and West Greenland. :)

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APPLICATION

 

Official nation name: The Empire of Amenria

 

Population- 4,164,252,000

Land Request- Korea, some of China

Form of Government: Absolute Monarchy

 

Describe your Nation IC: A Federal, Militaristic, Socialist, Authoritarian Empire, formed after a great war against evil. A place where humans and non-human sentients (vampires, werewolves, etc) live in joy and harmony under the protecting and caring arms of the Supreme Heavenly Emperor. The nation is highly religious and most of its constitution is based Sharia law. Crime is unbelievably low, due to the pious nature of its citizens, high tax rate for the wealthy, and practice of martial law. The citizens are proud with not only prowess on the field of battle, but also their swift technological advancements and rich culture of arts. Truly a paradise for heroes and innocents, and a hell for villains and hypocrites.

Describe yourself in OOC terms: Just another guy trying out stuff in RP

Edited by Cheonsa

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Due to this map's bizarre province placement in South Central China, it is fairly difficult to determine the former boundaries of the ancient Chinese provinces/regions of Chu 楚, Wu å³, and Yue 越 respectively.  This is relevant because the Human founders of the Brotherhood of Planets originated from this general area.

 

The rough map of the former provinces is here:

http://djtravel.homestead.com/spring___autumn_period770-481bc_MAP.jpg

 

For some reason the above image refers to a combined Chu and Shu 蜀.

 

Below is rough estimate of Chu:

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Chinese_plain_5c._BC-en.svg/500px-Chinese_plain_5c._BC-en.svg.png

 

As such, the short version of our claims is a straight line between the majestic cities of Hangzhou, by the sea, and the inland metropolis of Changsha, with additional claim to the esteemed munincipalty of Nanchang which is slightly north.  If our claims so happen to reach the glorious population center that is Wuhan, the bustling center of the Chang Jiang (Yangtze River to you Westerners),  that would make us quite pleased.  But Wuhan, beautiful as it is, is not a necessity.

 

We predict our overall population to be in the hundreds of millions.  It is rather unlikely that our population nears one billion since we do not claim the decadent and polluted wasteland that is Shanghai, despite its proximity to Hangzhou.

 

NATION NAME:  æ±å³

 

CAPITAL:  Changsha (é•·æ²™)

 

(Dong/East Wu in English, but we humbly request to leave our name as presented above.)

 

Estimated Population:  Give or take 200 million.  If starbases are allowed, additional millions on the Red Star Orbiting Starbase.

 

(Please Note that the ALTERNATIVE claims may more than double our population to around 500 million.)

 

LAND CLAIM:

 

INITIAL PROPOSAL:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/jq0aze02m2pgg01/Dong%20Wu.png?dl=0

 

ALTERNATIVE:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/ot24y3fhlj0eeh6/Wusian%202.png?dl=0

 

LORE:

Upon detecting several signals of extraterrestrial origin, the Federation of Dong Wu (æ±å³) became active in global affairs once again.  Having developed a starship class known as the 'Seedship', the nation prepares itself to embrace its non-human brethren.

 

While Dijinn appeared in the northlands, another miracle appeared!  Those claiming to be kin of the Wusians appeared from the sky, offering advanced technology in exchange for one request:

"Live and Prosper."

As such, the Wusian Nation barrels forth towards a more advanced age.  Her people stand ever vigilant against the ever present concern that the creatures that haunt the north may forget their promises and come southward.  We all hope that the peace will stay, but even if it fails the people of Wu will not succumb to anyone!

 

(AKA the Brotherhood of Planets is involved in Wusian development and as such Dong Wu can be considered a protectorate at worst....  Debating whether to just cut all pretenses and have Wu become the Bro presence in PW-2.)
 

Edited by Shex

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I was recommended by the pepsi guy to RP here :D

 

MT APPLICATION

 

Nation Name : States of Taiyochi

 

Capital : Kansai (located in former Osaka, mostly and purposed to be administrative affairs specialized city only), Tokyo (the emperor's house is here, and most of economic things happen here)

 

Gov Type : Constitutional Monarchy

 

Estimated Population : 140,835,480

 

Head of State : Emperor Junzu I, Han Young Gi

 

Head of Government : PM Son Jae Seok

 

Land Request : 

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Lore/Nation Description : An independent nation, led by Emperor Junzu I and his loyal son and Prime Minister, Son Jae Seok. The nation has a beautiful landscapes and views across the country. The nation has a semi-socialism, and conservative-religious law based on agreement of major religions.

Established in 2027, the nation's leader has been contributed in international military, religious and political organisation, and tend to build his own nation in East Asia. Successfully unified the both Korea, he also make an agreement with Japan to be in his territory, playing as one of the states.

The nation previously has a territory over Korean peninsula. However, due to the conflict with the neighbouring country, half of the population in South Korea moved and followed him to Japan, leaving the Korean peninsula to be empty until 2030*

Edited by shakopen

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Sacred Lights is currently out of town. He should be back to update the map by the evening of the 12th at the earliest. 

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Alright, won't be able to post the map till Monday or later, due to my rig not having Wifi yet.
I've adjusted the map claims a bit given how little sense Taiyochi's claims make, and due to the fact I wanted korea for my FT nation...

So some adjustments to claims:
Amernia gets a significant portion of Northern China, and most of North Korea.
Taiyochi gets Japanese claims, and most of Japan.
My new Fantasy based Future Tech nation will have portions of the sparsely populated North East China, and the remaining bits of Korea (to act as a buffer state between Taiyochi and Amernia)
Dong Wu's claims get a bit of expansion to match the size of others in Asia.

Some things I suggest, if no one finds this unacceptable:
Amernia needs to cut his pop down to 1 bill at the most, and I'd prefer it to be a fair bit less.

Dong Wu, Amernia, and Tayochi, you guys should message eachother and come up with a unified history of the region. Past conflicts, etc.
I will not be needed in these discussions as I am a late arrival from the stars.

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Alright, won't be able to post the map till Monday or later, due to my rig not having Wifi yet.

I've adjusted the map claims a bit given how little sense Taiyochi's claims make, and due to the fact I wanted korea for my FT nation...

 

So some adjustments to claims:

Amernia gets a significant portion of Northern China, and most of North Korea.

-snip-

Dong Wu's claims get a bit of expansion to match the size of others in Asia.

 

Some things I suggest, if no one finds this unacceptable:

Amernia needs to cut his pop down to 1 bill at the most, and I'd prefer it to be a fair bit less.

 

Dong Wu, Amernia, and Tayochi, you guys should message eachother and come up with a unified history of the region. Past conflicts, etc.

I will not be needed in these discussions as I am a late arrival from the stars.

 

Requesting time to edit my land claims accordingly.  Due to the historical circumstances of my nation and a particular "alt-history" proposal, I am hereby requesting a border extension to the Huai River, with a general extension westward allowing my nation to hold the city of Xiangyang as well.  This line shall continue to extend but undergo a slight 'bump' to claim the city of Hanzhong.  (The provinces are so lopsided that I honestly can't tell my exact city claims, but comparing the alternative claims to a map of China SEEMS to suggest that they're roughly what would make sense in an Alt-history scenario.  Cheonsa still gets all the major Chinese cities that 'count' as it were, with the exceptions of Jian Ye (Nanjing), Chengdu, Nanhai (Guangzhou), Wuhan, Xiangyang, and Hanzhong.  Changsha and Nanchang, much as I regret saying so OOCly, are always second-tier.  Hangzhou is more of a glorified resort city than a major citadel.

 

True to form, Shanghai is a fishing village ----> Resort Town.  Jian Ye (Nanjing) and Hangzhou are the nearby metropolis'.

 

Since Amernia claimed "some of China," I do not think this claim is unreasonable.  Such a line secures South China, most notably a similar territorial claim as the former Dynasty of South Song.  True to form, the Wusians would know of Chinese cities by their ancient names.  As such Amernia still gets Chang'an, the ancient capital of China, along with the former capitals and critical population centers of Luoyang, Jinyang (now known as Taiyuan), Jizhou (also known as Beijing), Kaifeng, Ye (assuming it was not burnt to the ground as occurred in history), Beihai (modern day Shandong Province) and so forth.

 

As discussed with Sacred Lights, I would also renounce most claims to Guangxi province and everything south of that (including, Hainan Island) as compensation.  This means I secure some coastline and inland territory at the cost of most of China's southern shore (aka Jiao Province to the Wusians.)  Much of Jiao Province, save the city of Nanhai (Guangzhou) was considered backwater and not particularly suitable for colonization which would fit this alt-history.

 

I hope this is acceptable.  Editing claims and sending PM as necessary.

 

Edited Claims Posted on original app.

Edited by Shex

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