Why are there only far right people in this sub

[Frank Todd]

Literally a tool-bag?

[Rozalia]

 

I'm familiar with tool and such but tool-bag less so. Your example is horrible whatever the case. A Hate fact is something backed up by hard evidence, you calling me a name as you would do with the Nazi and stuff has no evidence.

[Frank Todd]

I'm familiar with tool and such but tool-bag less so. Your example is horrible whatever the case. A Hate fact is something backed up by hard evidence, you calling me a name as you would do with the Nazi and stuff has no evidence.

Well if you take the meaning of a tool, "a device or implement, especially one held in the hand, used to carry out a particular function." You are trying to carry out the function of whatever agenda your radical wing is trying to push, and that could be said towards multiple functions you are trying to accomplish thus being a Container of sorts, or maybe a bag (since people have been joked as being Meat-bags) soooo A tool-Bag.

 

 

There's a joke in there somewhere.. Idek. I lost interest like halfway through me typing this since the joke is kinda overplayed at this point.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Floating Hippo]

Why waste time and energy on people who are far gone in theirs beliefs and have 0 chance of being tipped towards yours?

 

You can't convert  extremist. 

[Rozalia]

Well if you take the meaning of a tool, "a device or implement, especially one held in the hand, used to carry out a particular function." You are trying to carry out the function of whatever agenda your radical wing is trying to push, and that could be said towards multiple functions you are trying to accomplish thus being a Container of sorts, or maybe a bag (since people have been joked as being Meat-bags) soooo A tool-Bag.

 

 

There's a joke in there somewhere.. Idek. I lost interest like halfway through me typing this since the joke is kinda overplayed at this point.

 

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Right.

 

Why waste time and energy on people who are far gone in theirs beliefs and have 0 chance of being tipped towards yours?

 

You can't convert  extremist. 

 

That implies the so called moderates don't have their own extreme beliefs they stick to firmly. Look how many belief in Globalism and refuse to give it up or even entertain the idea of cutting back on the whole thing.

 

They've been trying conversion? Odd way to go about it.

[Aisha Greyjoy]

Anti-globalists have mostly been liberals. The conservative "anti-globalists" have always been a teensy minority preaching "national sovereignity" and "UN Black Helicopters" and "FEMA Camps".  Now they aren't a teensy minority.  While I don't welcome the racism, xenophobia and intolerance that many of them seem to have, I am glad to think that maybe now the Banks and multinational corps will have serious resistance to own the world and all of us, because, as a liberal, I freely admit the liberal anti-globalist movement was pretty much a failure. All they did was get the shit kicked out of them by new world order security forces.

 

[Clarke]

Anti-globalists have mostly been liberals. The conservative "anti-globalists" have always been a teensy minority preaching "national sovereignity" and "UN Black Helicopters" and "FEMA Camps".  Now they aren't a teensy minority.  While I don't welcome the racism, xenophobia and intolerance that many of them seem to have, I am glad to think that maybe now the Banks and multinational corps will have serious resistance to own the world and all of us, because, as a liberal, I freely admit the liberal anti-globalist movement was pretty much a failure. All they did was get the shit kicked out of them by new world order security forces.

Probably the main difference is the leftists fighting to combat it is counterproductive since they're self destructive and will bring themselves down through other means making any victory irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. With a right victory and a defeat of leftists perhaps such a victory won't be a pointless endeavor. 

[Buorhann]

There isn't enough voices coming from the right, I'm in the center and Roz leans to the left mostly.

 

 

Holy !@#$ is this a bullshit statement.

[Clarke]

Holy !@#$ is this a bullshit statement.

 

This is what Roz and I talk about when you have no facts. 

 

Roz's Political Compass

 

My Political Compass

Edited December 6, 2016 by Lightning

[Buorhann]

lol, yeah ok.

[Clarke]

lol, yeah ok.

Something tells me you won't learn.

[Buorhann]

I learn plenty.  Such as the ability to go back and re-answer questions to alter those graphs to try and prove some statement.  You're nothing but bullshitting here, and that's that.  If you want to keep on telling people, "Hey I lean left" - very well, but you're only fooling yourself.

[Amaryllis]

Okay, let it be known, that I think the issue is it seems no one wants to concede to the other having a point and it happens in any debate from any side, so I think that yeah that's why a lot people won't post. I also do think some discussions can turn from healthy arguing to a shout fest and that's a major turn off.

 

Personally, I will post if I feel strongly for the topic, if I think the topic is interesting, if it doesn't seem like it's getting out of hand, or if the points I could make haven't been brought up and being discussed. And well if I'm not being lazy xp.

[Clarke]

I learn plenty.  Such as the ability to go back and re-answer questions to alter those graphs to try and prove some statement.  You're nothing but bullshitting here, and that's that.  If you want to keep on telling people, "Hey I lean left" - very well, but you're only fooling yourself.

You don't seem to learn https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/13266-biannual-political-compass/page-1#entry245562

[Frank Todd]

Would like to point out that this thread kinda speaks leagues for people who don't want to converse on the debate/discussion section anymore. It isn't healthy debate, healthy debate means respecting others opinions and facts, and all this has turned into is a stoning session where both sides wanna call each other something or another.

 

And I'll guarantee that someone will respond with "Well their side is the name-calling one", since we apparently cannot adult anymore on here.

[Clarke]

Would like to point out that this thread kinda speaks leagues for people who don't want to converse on the debate/discussion section anymore. It isn't healthy debate, healthy debate means respecting others opinions and facts, and all this has turned into is a stoning session where both sides wanna call each other something or another.

 

And I'll guarantee that someone will respond with "Well their side is the name-calling one", since we apparently cannot adult anymore on here.

I'm still waiting for the evidence that Roz and I insult people the most. 

I think it is cute you try to separate yourself from the equation.

Edited December 6, 2016 by Lightning

[Doktor Avalanche]

Would like to point out that this thread kinda speaks leagues for people who don't want to converse on the debate/discussion section anymore. It isn't healthy debate, healthy debate means respecting others opinions and facts, and all this has turned into is a stoning session where both sides wanna call each other something or another.

 

And I'll guarantee that someone will respond with "Well their side is the name-calling one", since we apparently cannot adult anymore on here.

Both sides, Hell, all sides have gloated to some extent Both sides have has an Elitist attitude to some extent. All sides have voiced that the other is uninformed, misinformed or outright in denial. And no, no one has "adulted" from time to time. 

 

But I do have to say that a large portion of this is conflict is due to the mindset of regional norms not making sense to others from differing regions. Example: I cannot for the life me understand why people would allow the State to be a Nanny and Messiah for all Europeans, and why the Democratic Party community wishes to implement such measures here in the US. -note this is an example, not a debate-

[durmij]

This is what Roz and I talk about when you have no facts. 

 

Roz's Political Compass

 

My Political Compass

Socialism and liberty for us and capitalism and authority for everyone else is a pretty common set of beliefs. People are judging you on how your stated politics would effect others, not yourselves.

[Rozalia]

Socialism and liberty for us and capitalism and authority for everyone else is a pretty common set of beliefs. People are judging you on how your stated politics would effect others, not yourselves.

 

Define the groups. The one which I belong to, and the one that is effected differently. I can guess, but go on.

[Floating Hippo]

This thread reminds me of this.

 

I guess everyone on here is a political scientist.

Edited December 7, 2016 by Floating Hippo

[durmij]

Define the groups. The one which I belong to, and the one that is effected differently. I can guess, but go on.

In the broadest sense, using a language you probably won't object too, "my nation" and "not my nation."

[Rozalia]

In the broadest sense, using a language you probably won't object too, "my nation" and "not my nation."

 

Why would I have a problem with that. Come on, hit me with the white supremacist and Nazi lines. If you're not going to then I do wonder why you would object to such a logical way of thinking.

[Doktor Avalanche]

This thread reminds me of this.

 

I guess everyone on here is a political scientist.

Or just on the internet where opinions are shared regardless of knowledge.

You are guilty of it. So am I.

[Ayayay]

Or just on the internet where opinions are shared regardless of knowledge.

You are guilty of it. So am I.

Yea, you two should be ashamed of yourselves. You should be like me instead, I only post facts.

 

Fact: This thread causes cancer

 

 

You'll say no, but wait a few years for those symptoms to form. It's already hit a few people though, like Rozy and Oga.

Edited December 8, 2016 by Malal

[Aisha Greyjoy]

Hey, I'd cut a deal with the nationalists, can we agree to fix the environment?  If so, I'll let ya do what ya want to the Muslims and Mexicans.

 

Or does your one-culture utopia vision for our country also include all of us choking to death on its air?