Andrezj Kolarov Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) What exactly is the point of government types in the game? You change to Democracy to save up money, change to Republic to build Cities, change to Autocracy to build infra, change to Noocracy when building projects, and to Stratocracy when fighting wars. The way governments work is totally inimical to roleplaying, what if a player doesn't want to be an Autocracy or Republic? What if they RP as a Stratocracy and don't want to change? They have to economically penalize themselves to RP. Governments should be completely cosmetic, just like your Economic/Social Policies. EDIT: But just so I'm just complaining, here's a suggestion - create 4 new National Projects which keep these bonuses in the game: Center for Research and Development: Reduces the cost of National Projects by 5%. Urban Planning Department: Reduces the cost of a new city by 5%. Tourism Board: Provides a 1% bonus to your gross income. Defense Contracts: Reduces the Upkeep Cost of your military by 5% The Autocracy/infra bonus is already taken by the CCE. Edited February 19, 2016 by Itani Corsus 1 Quote People's Republic of Velika: National Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Valko Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguar Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valakias Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Nop:v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrezj Kolarov Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 No No Elaborate. Quote People's Republic of Velika: National Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Von Dietrich Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 One, I want to keep my comestic feature "Stratocracy". Secondly, it's FOR FREEEEEEEE. I'm not paying for a project, when I could keep this feature and get these bonuses for free. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 One, I want to keep my comestic feature "Stratocracy". Secondly, it's FOR FREEEEEEEE. I'm not paying for a project, when I could keep this feature and get these bonuses for free. Ä°t could be free if you change the bonuses to industry specializations, like instead of defense contracts, it could adrenals and stimulants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrezj Kolarov Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 One, I want to keep my comestic feature "Stratocracy". Secondly, it's FOR FREEEEEEEE. I'm not paying for a project, when I could keep this feature and get these bonuses for free. The projects were just a suggestion, it could be anything Quote People's Republic of Velika: National Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 i made this same argument during beta and their response was overwhelmingly "no" with basically the same amount of reasoning if you ask me, the real logic is somewhere between "i don't want everybody to just be a democracy or dictatorship" and "cybernations did it this way so what'st he big deal", but maybe they actually just see no value in RP value 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadir Aminu Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 i made this same argument during beta and their response was overwhelmingly "no" with basically the same amount of reasoning if you ask me, the real logic is somewhere between "i don't want everybody to just be a democracy or dictatorship" and "cybernations did it this way so what'st he big deal", but maybe they actually just see no value in RP value Yet we add approval rating which has no meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yet we add approval rating which has no meaning. but it's completely useless even if you get at or below zero/at or above 100, is affected by relatively few things, and can't be at all directly controlled, in any way, at any time, by the player i actually really do like the system that we have with governments, i just wish it wasn't attached to the RP. i think a lot of people brought up having a "national focus" before, and it's something sheepy said he wanted. maybe it's time to drag out that idea? it seems to make a lot more sense for being something that gets changed every 5-10 days anyway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spite Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Surely this is only inimical to rp if you value bonuses more than role play? For example if you accept that under military rule, the military budget will be more efficient, or under a technocratic government (noocracy) big projects will be cheaper... Then what's the big deal? If you want to rp as a democracy then you can take the benefits and the weaknesses. People who are more goal/game oriented can just switch. If you want to stop people randomly switching all the time, make the bonus cumulative over time or increase the time between each change. 1 Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio just because the Nazis did something doesn't mean it's automatically wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrezj Kolarov Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Surely this is only inimical to rp if you value bonuses more than role play? For example if you accept that under military rule, the military budget will be more efficient, or under a technocratic government (noocracy) big projects will be cheaper... Then what's the big deal? If you want to rp as a democracy then you can take the benefits and the weaknesses. People who are more goal/game oriented can just switch. If you want to stop people randomly switching all the time, make the bonus cumulative over time or increase the time between each change. I probably should of mentioned, I don't have a problem with government bonuses, just the whole "switcheroo game" of cycling through the types (which is lifted almost exactly from Cybernations). Would be OK if the cooldown was longer and you needed to pay money/resources to switch. But your suggestion of cumulative bonus is fine too. Also, even then, the government types are pretty uninspired tbh, no Capitalism, Communism, Fascism, etc? Edited February 19, 2016 by Itani Corsus Quote People's Republic of Velika: National Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Surely this is only inimical to rp if you value bonuses more than role play? For example if you accept that under military rule, the military budget will be more efficient, or under a technocratic government (noocracy) big projects will be cheaper... Then what's the big deal? If you want to rp as a democracy then you can take the benefits and the weaknesses. People who are more goal/game oriented can just switch. If you want to stop people randomly switching all the time, make the bonus cumulative over time or increase the time between each change. the bonuses are what actually matter. telling people to pick cosmetics over winning in a spreadsheet game is, well... I probably should of mentioned, I don't have a problem with government bonuses, just the whole "switcheroo game" of cycling through the types (which is lifted almost exactly from Cybernations). Would be OK if the cooldown was longer and you needed to pay money/resources to switch. But your suggestion of cumulative bonus is fine too. Also, even then, the government types are pretty uninspired tbh, no Capitalism, Communism, Fascism, etc? economics is already in the game, extreme left to right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomedes Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 No, leave things as they are. This suggestion is ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur James Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) no, government has its function to for the country....too much substitute of cooperation projects. Edited February 20, 2016 by Arthur James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrezj Kolarov Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 economics is already in the game, extreme left to right Which then leaves us with the original question, what purpose do the govt types serve? Quote People's Republic of Velika: National Information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiki Mod Dr Rush Posted February 20, 2016 Wiki Mod Share Posted February 20, 2016 Labeling? Thats the issue here, you want to dismantle a functional game mechanic to accommodate RP. If it bothers you that much start a motion to just relabel the options. 1 Quote 23:38 Skable that's why we don't want Rose involved, so we can take the m all for ourselves 23:39 [] but Mensa is the cute girl at the school dance and she's only dancing with us right now to get our friend jealous 23:39 [] If Rose comes in and gives Mensa what she wants, she'll just toss us aside and forget we ever existed 23:39 zombie_lanae yeah I do hope we can keep having them all to ourselves 23:40 zombie_lanae I know it's selfish but I want all their love 6:55 PM <+Isolatar> Praise Dio Pubstomper|BNC [20:01:55] Rose wouldn't plan a hit on Mensa because it would be !@#$ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu[Old Account] Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I don't know where to place this but... Can you please add "Anarchy" to Government Types. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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