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You're wrong on exploits, because your definition doesn't allow for things that are "legal" but not within the spirit of the game or the game rules. It's ok though, you'll figure it out when they come for you. Have a nice day. People are 3) not organized enough to carry it out, mainly because they are too busy watching enemies burn or hoping they aren't next (or both) to figure out that once their enemies are gone, you'll go after them next. Or delete. Given what you are doing, you have to raid constantly to avoid bill lock. I guess at this point I'm wondering what else can be done to save the players from themselves. Could be the answer is 'nothing' in which case I'm not seeing a whole lot to stick around for to be honest. Being part of a large alliance is absolutely no protection as is currently being demonstrated, so medium to small alliance are just sitting around waiting to be farmed.

I don't actually control what individual players may or may not do while they sit in front of their browser. All I can tell you is that he didn't ask my permission. Enjoy your wars, there's no one really trying to stop you.

While I believe that the player community can solve the current problem, the fact remains that the solution will disrupt the normal flow of the game. Of course every game exploit (legal or illegal) is not particularly a problem so long as it isn't affecting you at the moment or you are taking advantage of it. In fact, if you are taking advantage of it, you make speeches like this one: There are of course already limits on how people play, whether it is a limit on the number aircraft you can buy (which is an element of realism) or the range of nations you can declare war on (not realistic, but done for purposes of playability). I don't envy Sheepy's position at all. If I were him though, the latest tweak hasn't produced the results he was seeking, and if the player community is unwilling to "save itself", then further tweaks may eventually be necessary. To answer my own question from before, the difference is that the Beta and Speed rounds had nations with fewer cities and there was still a lot of nation strength adjustments being made. Maybe it's as simple as giving more weight in terms of nation strength to cities and military. Or maybe that just makes the sharks bigger and now they prey on larger fish. Whatever the case, change, whether it is introduced by the players or Sheepy, is necessary.

Qualitative data versus quantitative data, in this case interviews with actual players and observation. To quote one of them, "our guys and myself are really getting tired of spending 50 real dollars a month on coins just to watch them get blown up." Sample size isn't as large as I would like yet, but based on what I've gathered so far, I am confident in asserting that some things have to change around here or Sheepy's bottom line is going to suffer. Pity. What I don't get though is that we managed to go through an entire beta round, an entire speed round, and when we enter the 'production' environment we only made a year and a half before we started having a major issues.

You say that like you've taken a survey and didn't find anyone and the truth is you have taken no such survey and are talking out your ass. The game is growing in numbers in spite of the raiding, not because of it. That said, the current situation is player problem, not a problem that Sheepy can do too much more about without neutering the game. If players are tired of all the raiding, then those that are need to do something about beyond complaining. If nothing else, heck, last I checked, raiding alliances with full military improvements and negative incomes don't have much in the way of resource generation capability. If everyone simply used the game mechanic in trades to boycott raiders and raiding alliances, the raiders would have a more difficult time staying in business. There are also other tactics that can be employed to limit the income of raiders without firing shot, use those, be proactive.

Now that Arrgh has attacked VE and Rose, there are new players on the field. The war therefore continues. Sorry we couldn't be more help, Pref. Best of luck to you and yours.

NAC joins with TEst in hoping that someone gets Jacob a god damn bowl of cereal. Also a nice toy prize. Not the cheap cardboard ones, but the cool plastic ones that shoot paperwads and stuff. Like Prefontaine, I'd love to move on, but yeah. This again. Also, would someone tell Jacob I am not his neglectful father that was always out playing space smuggler because I didn't want to deal with my failed marriage to his mother. That is Harrison Ford. Harrison is a great guy, a lot older than me, and probably not his father either, especially given that Harrison is an actor and happily married to someone else and well, was only playing the part of a space smuggler in a movie. So Jacob, don't try to kill him for bonus Sith points or whatever, please? tl;dr: SSDD, and NAC supports TEst in their ongoing struggle with Arrgh.

They also lead in the emasculation of major alliances board, though that one is less well known and less frequented.

Thank you for your testimonial!

I'd just nuke you. Slower but much more effective than missiles. Nahh, a good raider picks their targets carefully and the more one sided the fight the better. But don't brag about how good you are at it or how merciful you are. You're pressing the 'Easy' button. As someone else said, a mechanics change and you're business model gets a whole lot less profitable. Let's see where you are in a few months.

Maybe you should be nitpicking how someone with 10-13 cities, max air bases, and max aircraft at each of those bases ever actually runs into a target, active or inactive, that is able to run 5 days of air strikes against them.

o/ Alpha o/ VE I like this.

Rule number one of the Internet is never trust a Nigerian. Rule number two of the Internet is that people are constantly trying to sell you things that grow something and almost all of them never work. Rule number three of the Internet is never feed trolls. My apologies for feeding you. NAC will have no further official comment regarding this war until it is concluded.

Less talk, more battlefield sweetheart.

Sorry you feel that way. I think bigger joke here is that you are commenting and throwing insults in a thread that doesn't concern you. Yours is the "point and laugh" alliance though, so I guess it sort of makes sense you'd be here in a twisted sort of way.

Any attack by an NAC nation was unauthorized by command. It should also be noted that there is a long history of bad blood between Arrgh and NAC and simply disengaging the two alliance like snapping a finger is wholly and completely unrealistic. Arrgh knew this, Arrgh isn't interested in peace, just excuses for continued war. So, that's what they'll get.

Even if he and his alliance engage in unprovoked raids against other alliances?

Incorrect. This thread was posted hours before there was an agreement on peace. Raiders sending peace after sucker punching a nation does not equate to peace between alliances. Nice try though.

Old history, and something that happened early in a much larger war, not something that happened as a much larger war was winding down. We did however peace you out. If VE would like to address that further, then I'll let them do it. I'm certain you'd gladly see us at many things, just as I would cheerfully sell down and start erasing cities in some of your nations, but what you will see instead is a lot more accepted peace offers as they come in. Be happy.

Interesting fight. Interesting fights are better. Sorry to call in the air strike, SK. Actually no I'm not sorry. But no hard feelings either. You coordinate well. o/ Alpha (pleasure getting to know you better) o/ VE (as always) o/ Rose (to new relationships)

We all know that had UPN and/or VE been at peace, and we hadn't just been in a war with two other alliances, your alliance wouldn't have touched us. You picked your spot. The knife hurt a bit. You sent a peace offer in the middle of the night, I told my people to accept the peace offers from your nations. If someone didn't check the alliance announcements before responding to your attacks, c'est la guerre. Show is over so far as I'm concerned. Get your people to send peace and they'll get it. Attack us further and reap the whirlwind. Choice is yours.

Yeah it is laughable to someone who doesn't know what it is.

We see what you are doing there, Arrgh. Naturally, since your word is shit as is your 'no raid' list, and paying us reps for past transgressions taught you nothing, we'll be dispatching your "raiders" as best we can or go down trying. We have honor. We ask that others that are tired of Arrgh's shit come join us. As to those who would actually employ you as protectors or call you an "associate", behold the liars that you associate with on full display. Pick better employees, these will stab you in the back some day. Count on it.

TBH, no. If that is your thing, cool. Then there are people like Roz.

Because overall score measures your ability to sustain combat over the course of a larger, longer war. Any alliance can build a huge military, but if they have no way to sustain it, it will melt away quickly and not be a factor. Global wars generally go to the coalition with the best overall score as a result.