Sisyphus

Sigma, neutrality is a promise you made to the world. Not one the world made to you. I still hate seeing this though, I like you guys, you deserve better than to be raided. Especially since an alliance-hopping scumbag brought all this negativity your way. Sidenote: The 800 NS minimum "gimmick" is cool, but if the point of it is defense you guys should've been more prepared to defend one another. Those nations that left you high and dry are no better than Vincent.

The only people I've ever noticed complain about raiding in these games are generally people that are bad at these games. Let's not forget that this isn't an argument about morals (which clearly vary from alliance to alliance and are plainly outlined in their individual charters), we were discussing how the UPN and Rose don't take their protectorate responsibilities as seriously as they should. If you're going to promise to take care of "new" players, and then break that promise, you don't regain the moral high ground by whining about how raiding is wrong.

Expect EoS's stats to start dropping again now that they're getting kicked off of beige.

Just declare, get black out and forget, and then use the accumulated maps to help cope with the hangover.

Mensa & Company?

Getting hit is one thing. Getting beat down is another.

UPN probably didn't know their protectorates were going to get hit. They didn't expect the beat down they got either. They just shot themselves in the foot and lost their ability to uphold their promises. If it was anything other than an aggressive war I'd say it was hard luck. Plainly though, it's terrible protection. Rose signed a unilateral agreement that obligates it to defend its protectorates, and then didn't to try and avoid a losing war. That's also terrible protection. If I had to choose though, I'd vote Rose. Incompetence is better than duplicity.

No Mensyndicata HQ?

I don't care about DEIC's terrible leadership. This is what I want to talk about. That's awesome. In, like, the worst way. Isn't that the point? Accepting war deserters is a special circumstance, I know, but yeah.

Like that's never been done before.

Congrats Arrgh! (Also congrats to Cow's headline.)

Best OWF post I've seen yet.

You do, but you probably shouldn't.

Bought the journal. Thought it was a book. Random purchase. Still satisfied with my penis.

I think the bear got itself mauled first.

Inb4 someone claims Mensa coordinated answers on the poll.

Interested to see how this unfolds. Glad you weren't betrayed, Arrgh! Hope it all gets sorted. An awful lot of hacking happens when VE gets involved in a global conflict.

Shout out to Rutherford Clarence who gave me my first nuke (I never liked that city anyway). Thank you to UPN and EoS for leaving me off their target lists too. Really appreciated the extra build up time. And to Metro who would've probably given me a real run for my money without the interference of Jodo's paradoxical navy of cats and Charles the Tyrant.

They actually supported me when we got rolled though. Significant difference there.

o\ UPN o/ Alpha

There's only one way to find out.

Woe is me.

I was looking for a reliable thread. Will stick to the APR instead.

Welcome !

You're alliance is a piece of shit. They're doing bad things right now. Everyone talks about them like this Because this is the way it is. They boosted you. Cool. Anyone could do that. Not everyone will put you in this kind of ridiculously awkward situation.