LordRahl2 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think the topic says it all. I know the mechanic caused issues with alliance banks disappearing however there must be some way to fix this. I believe this is the only reason it was removed and is part of how the game was intended to be played. If I am in error than I apologize. As it stands people can simply hide any amount of money and resources in their alliance bank and this makes conducting meaningful warfare much harder. I guess I could go on but I will stop there. 1 Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think it was on Sheepy's long list of to-do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan77 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) I guess I could go on but I will stop there. That'll be a first Seriously, it does need fixing though. Edited July 13, 2015 by Dan77 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think it was on Sheepy's long list of to-do. So I suppose I am asking for it to be moved above other action items. Particularly since it directly influences the intended game-play. Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Alex Posted July 13, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 13, 2015 Yup, this is something that I'll be working on soon. I'll also probably change resource looting a bit, so that you loot manufactured resources (gasoline, munitions, aluminum, and steel) instead of the ones you do currently. 2 Quote Is there a bug? Report It | Not understanding game mechanics? Ask About It | Got a good idea? Suggest ItForums Rules | Game Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan77 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Yup, this is something that I'll be working on soon. I'll also probably change resource looting a bit, so that you loot manufactured resources (gasoline, munitions, aluminum, and steel) instead of the ones you do currently. My stockpiles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Yup, this is something that I'll be working on soon. I'll also probably change resource looting a bit, so that you loot manufactured resources (gasoline, munitions, aluminum, and steel) instead of the ones you do currently. Dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) My stockpiles! Awwww. Thanks for the reply Sheep. Edited July 13, 2015 by LordRahl2 Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Solomon I Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) I actually feel like making banks secure isn't such a bad thing and actually injects some more strategy into the game. After all, you can deposit stuff into the bank and it'll be safe but during war you're certain to be blockaded and thus will be unable to access anything you've deposited. So you have to balance the security of keeping your stuff in the bank with the need to ensure its availability. Edited July 13, 2015 by HM Solomon I Quote Check out my blog! Like its sister in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), I will strive to make it a haven for reasonable discussion and interesting takes on various issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 I actually feel like making banks secure isn't such a bad thing and actually injects some more strategy into the game. After all, you can deposit stuff into the bank and it'll be safe but during war you're certain to be blockaded and thus will be unable to access anything you've deposited. So you have to balance the security of keeping your stuff in the bank with the need to ensure its availability. Poring everything into an invincible bank is not strategy. 1 Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Solomon I Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) Poring everything into an invincible bank is not strategy. Except alliance banks can't fight, only nations can and blockaded nations can't receive anything from the bank. The biggest problem with keeping banks secure is it'll be harder to destroy stuff long term and wear down WCs, so I agree it probably still has to change but there is a short term strategy and in the short and even medium term it wouldn't be such a bad thing. Edited July 13, 2015 by HM Solomon I Quote Check out my blog! Like its sister in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), I will strive to make it a haven for reasonable discussion and interesting takes on various issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 Except alliance banks can't fight, only nations can and blockaded nations can't receive anything from the bank. Blockades last 5 days max and you would not pull stuff out of your bank if you were losing anyway. . .sooo? Again, no strategy except to hid your stuff and wait for war/attack to be over then your untouchable stuff returns to you. Strategy would be balancing growth with sufficient forces to deter aggression individually or developing an alliance strategy. 1 Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Solomon I Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Blockades last 5 days max and you would not pull stuff out of your bank if you were losing anyway. . .sooo? Again, no strategy except to hid your stuff and wait for war/attack to be over then your untouchable stuff returns to you. Strategy would be balancing growth with sufficient forces to deter aggression individually or developing an alliance strategy. That's not actually true though. You may need resources to continue fighting and doing damage even if you're losing (you can still lob missiles if you're losing for example) and blockades can last much longer than 5 days if you're staggered in an inter-alliance war. Quote Check out my blog! Like its sister in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), I will strive to make it a haven for reasonable discussion and interesting takes on various issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I actually feel like making banks secure isn't such a bad thing and actually injects some more strategy into the game. After all, you can deposit stuff into the bank and it'll be safe but during war you're certain to be blockaded and thus will be unable to access anything you've deposited. So you have to balance the security of keeping your stuff in the bank with the need to ensure its availability. Out of complete bias for upcoming plans, I would like to agree and say yeah keep it secure, but as it WAS a part of the game and was only disabled due to a bug I'm gonna have to say it should be enabled. I don't remember if there ever was a Judgement on this or if it was ever changed, but I do think that applicants shouldn't be taxed and shouldn't be able to have alliance bank raided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 That's not actually true though. You may need resources to continue fighting and doing damage even if you're losing (you can still lob missiles if you're losing for example) and blockades can last much longer than 5 days if you're staggered in an inter-alliance war. And your 'strategy' at that point is to get beat down and wait for your nice huge payday when the war is over. Quote -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yeah I think banks should stay safe from looters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwynn Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'll look at the bank loot code to see what we can work out.. 2 Quote He's right, I'm such a stinker. Play my exceptional game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellUrGrlThx Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Keep them safe. Banks not being safe also favors the aggressor of a war. Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Solomon I Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) And your 'strategy' at that point is to get beat down and wait for your nice huge payday when the war is over. Actually this is a positive. The game heavily incentivizes preemptive strikes because it is much easier to win as the aggressor than as the defender, so defenders will naturally fare worse in wars. However, having the ability to safely store cash and resources allows alliances to rebuild at least a little quicker after war. Both of these things contribute to more dynamic politics and a more interesting game: more and more intense wars fought with a relatively short peace between them because alliances are incentivized to strike first and not wait to be hit and they can rebuild a bit quicker meaning it takes less time to be ready for another go. Edited July 14, 2015 by HM Solomon I Quote Check out my blog! Like its sister in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), I will strive to make it a haven for reasonable discussion and interesting takes on various issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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