Buorhann Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I can say that this thread was a bit too far but irregardless of cg's poetry it appears Mensa is the one at fault for hitting another alliance that is active and on the forums. The PR hit from this is going to outweigh whatever benefits you guys may get from rolling SI. I'm pretty sure Mensa HQ will be ok. It seems that whatever wrong we do is against smaller alliances that think we should cater to their demands and don't understand negotiations and compromises. I mean, Pfeiffer could've told him to bugger off. At the very least he attempted to negotiate till he was attacked. SI didn't even retaliate against the raiders, and that could've been much more understandable than attacking our leader. 2 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Armstrong Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=630&display=war This is only the start, if we can't stop evil today who will stop it tomorrow. Does darkness approach? I am reminded by this poem from a Holocaust survivor. First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. I get your point but comparing this to the Holocaust is a bit much. Hereno did attack Pfeiffer after all ffs. I'm not condoning the raiding. But the reparations talk sound like a big misunderstanding to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I'm pretty sure Mensa HQ will be ok. It seems that whatever wrong we do is against smaller alliances that think we should cater to their demands and don't understand negotiations and compromises. I mean, Pfeiffer could've told him to bugger off. At the very least he attempted to negotiate till he was attacked. SI didn't even retaliate against the raiders, and that could've been much more understandable than attacking our leader. This is the last PM I received from Pfeiffer before my thread was made: From: Pfeiffer Date: 04/13/2015 Monday 6:24 pm [Report Content] scared to fight me, eh? I'm not in range of the raiders. I was in range of Pfeiffer and so that's who I hit. Someone who represented the entire alliance. I wasn't expecting Mensa HQ to jump on us; I figured Pfeiffer and I would fight a round and shake hands and move on. But it appears that what you guys really did want the entire time was a war. Well, you've got one. I hope you enjoy it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellUrGrlThx Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 >Attacks leader of alliance >expects it just to be a friendly fight >doesn't say shit to anyone about this >still blames the other alliance when they respond No we didn't want a war. How long have you been the leader of SI? Quote ☾☆ Priest of Dio º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeiffer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Jodo came at me, I honestly assumed it was you ducking a fight. If it wasn't, that's cool. I'm having fun anyway. Quote ☾☆ Chairman Emeritus of Mensa HQ ☾☆ "It's not about the actual fish, themselves. Fish are not important in this context. It's about fish-ing, the act of fishing itself." -Jack O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) >Attacks leader of alliance >expects it just to be a friendly fight >doesn't say !@#$ to anyone about this >still blames the other alliance when they respond No we didn't want a war. How long have you been the leader of SI? >multiple members of mensa hq raid multiple members of si >pfeiffer is rude and refuses to pay light reparations to our bank for the raids >there are now over two pages of offensive wars declared against us by mensa hq but mensa hq did not want war okay, so what exactly did you do to avert it? apart from stonewalling me when i tried to be diplomatic. oh wait, that wouldn't help to avert war either. Edited April 14, 2015 by Hereno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenshibo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 >multiple members of mensa hq raid multiple members of si >pfeiffer is rude and refuses to pay light reparations to our bank for the raids >there are now over two pages of offensive wars declared against us by mensa hq but mensa hq did not want war okay, so what exactly did you do to avert it? apart from stonewalling me when i tried to be diplomatic? oh wait, that wouldn't help to avert war either. Pfeiffer had one simple request: have the members who were raided message him, and reparations would've been dealt. You responded with an attack, we responded back. Now you have to deal with the consequences your stubborn leadership style and lack of patience have brought on you and your alliance. Quote º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeiffer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I told you, we would pay REPARATIONS to the people damaged. If I paid you, it wouldn't be reparations. 1 Quote ☾☆ Chairman Emeritus of Mensa HQ ☾☆ "It's not about the actual fish, themselves. Fish are not important in this context. It's about fish-ing, the act of fishing itself." -Jack O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor (Old Account) Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 >multiple members of mensa hq raid multiple members of si >pfeiffer is rude and refuses to pay light reparations to our bank for the raids >there are now over two pages of offensive wars declared against us by mensa hq but mensa hq did not want war okay, so what exactly did you do to avert it? apart from stonewalling me when i tried to be diplomatic. oh wait, that wouldn't help to avert war either. He has a point here. if you were "defending" you could have just attacked Hereno. Quote "That ain't Cologne, that's the smell of success." 17:00 <•Sheepy> I don't want you to leave the game 19:20 <•Pubstomber>: Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I told you, we would pay REPARATIONS to the people damaged. If I paid you, it wouldn't be reparations. No, what you actually said was: From: Pfeiffer Date: 04/13/2015 Monday 1:19 pm [Report Content] He's 8 days inactive. I'll pay HIM, I'm not going to have you personally profit off of this. You want to start an alliance war over it? Could be fun. Let's try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Littleton Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Mensa is really great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenshibo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 So, this is all your fault Hereno. You were given two options: we'll pay war reparations, or we'll fight you; you declared war on Pfeiffer knowing fully well it'd be an alliance war - not some simply few round brawl as you claimed a few posts ago. Good leadership brah, enjoy your losses. 1 Quote º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor (Old Account) Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I like how the only people saying Hereno is wrong are people in MensaHQ. 1 Quote "That ain't Cologne, that's the smell of success." 17:00 <•Sheepy> I don't want you to leave the game 19:20 <•Pubstomber>: Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeiffer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I like how the only people saying Hereno is wrong are people in MensaHQ. Everyone else feels bad for the beating they're going to take. I mean, sure, I'll eat a couple missiles, but what does that matter when his entire alliance loses millions apiece? Quote ☾☆ Chairman Emeritus of Mensa HQ ☾☆ "It's not about the actual fish, themselves. Fish are not important in this context. It's about fish-ing, the act of fishing itself." -Jack O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) I like how you're still here after your involvement of raiding your previous alliance's bank. ( Kastor ) Edited April 14, 2015 by Buorhann 2 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I like how the only people saying Hereno is wrong are people in MensaHQ. How do you think it should have been resolved? Take your time to formulate an answer, I can wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 How do you think it should have been resolved? Take your time to formulate an answer, I can wait. Obviously we should've paid full reparations ( Both nation and alliance bank losses ) directly to Hereno, and not the nations that were hit. Right? 2 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenshibo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 How do you think it should have been resolved? Take your time to formulate an answer, I can wait. We were supposed to pay their alliance leader money he didn't lose, and allow them to beige our leader, duh. Anything else wouldn't have been gentlemanly, and like, we're playing Politics and Scones, so being gentlemanly is of the utmost importance. 1 Quote º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post George W. Bush Posted April 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) So, this is all your fault Hereno. Should have stopped right there. No matter how hard you try to change it, you are the aggressor. Why the !@#$ would it be Hereno's fault for asking for reps for raiding? If you said you'd pay reps, you should have sent them by now, not just sit back and have those raided come to you. If you really were in the right, you would have paid by now. Your arrogance impresses me. Obviously we should've paid full reparations ( Both nation and alliance bank losses ) directly to Hereno, and not the nations that were hit. Right? He said to his alliance bank, which clearly isn't him you insufferable !@#$. Edited April 15, 2015 by Fizban Filtered word 9 Quote You're no longer protecting the II? We have still teamed with II and TAC (and others) to rival The Covenants. This is getting complex. #FA_Problems Big problems for TSG. Really, not kidding. If Casey and Cyradis are King and Queen does that mean they're married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 >punches Pfeiffer "Gentlemens fight?" Ok! *couple hours later* >Hereno punches Pfeiffer "Gentlemens fight?" Lolno. My sides are in orbit. I still think Hereno is mostly in the right here, even if he does do things in a retarded way. Oh well. Too late to change what was said. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor (Old Account) Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 How do you think it should have been resolved? Take your time to formulate an answer, I can wait. As Hereno is the alliance leader, you pay the reps to the bank. Regardless of if the member logs on and talks to you. You're paying the money either way, so I don't see the point in doing it Hereno's way. He should be able to decide where the reps are going. But thank you for this war. #10 of my predictions is now crossed off the list. So meh. Quote "That ain't Cologne, that's the smell of success." 17:00 <•Sheepy> I don't want you to leave the game 19:20 <•Pubstomber>: Man, I really wish Rose had allied BoC a couple months ago when we had the chance instead of picking Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Vlad's mad. 2 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George W. Bush Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Vlad's mad. Arguing with idiots can be frustrating 1 Quote You're no longer protecting the II? We have still teamed with II and TAC (and others) to rival The Covenants. This is getting complex. #FA_Problems Big problems for TSG. Really, not kidding. If Casey and Cyradis are King and Queen does that mean they're married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenshibo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Arguing with idiots geniuses can be frustrating ftfy. 2 Quote º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ GOD EMPEROR DIO BRANDO¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸ DIO BRANDO GOD EMPEROR¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¤¤º°¨ ø„¸¸„¨ ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø„¸ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I worry for you, honestly. If you get this worked up over a trivial matter on a internet browser game to the point you have to throw out insults, when you're not even directly involved. 1 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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