Wars are absolutely terrible

[The Titan]

Alex and Village,

I understand you worked very hard on this new war system. But I believe I speak for 99.99% of the game when I say throw it in the garbage and bring back the old one. We appreciate the attempt but if I get one more internal server error I am going to explode. Also, it would be nice to know what alliance I just declared on. Oh, and if the UI looked more exactly like the old one, I would love you forever. Similar to not liking how the government spends my money with taxes, I do not know how to feel that our game donations went to this system.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go see what alliance I am at war with.

Have a splendid evening admins

 

Edited July 26, 2023 by The Titan

[Audon]

INB4 everyone else. I did it. I hit early like an idiot a full hour and a half before blitz, you're welcome.|

Edited July 26, 2023 by Audon

[Who Me]

How about you list the units in the same order for both nations so it is quicker to read instead of this nonsense?

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

stress test going down right now, and the game is feeling the stress

[Malachi Vegas]

I at least like being able to easily compare units. But I do miss how the spy system works. I liked blind gambling.

[Kastor]

I don’t dislike the new system actually. I think it works better. Sort the bugs out and i think it’s fine. 
 

Defenders now have a slight advantage. I like it.

[Village]

I'm sorry you don't like it, and I'm sorry there's been bugs, but no we're not going back to the old system. Both internally and externally (discounting the bugs) the new version is objectively better, more usable, and more maintainable than the old and I'm not going to stop modernization and progress because of a few issues and a handful of people's desire for an older layout.

EDIT: For clarification as I put below, this is about the UI and backend, not mechanics. Mechanics are always up for discussion and improvement, but the UI and backend (that system) isn’t going to change. There’s always bugs in software, and we’re doing our best to fix them and revert things promptly, but I’m not going to stop improvements and modernizations because of a few bugs. The game is moving forwards, not backwards.

Edited July 27, 2023 by Village

[Kastor]

7 hours ago, Village said:

I'm sorry you don't like it, and I'm sorry there's been bugs, but no we're not going back to the old system. Both internally and externally (discounting the bugs) the new version is objectively better, more usable, and more maintainable than the old and I'm not going to stop modernization and progress because of a few issues and a handful of people's desire for an older layout.

This is a terrible answer. Like the worst answer you could ever give. You should have just said nothing instead. A wise man said nothing at all.

[Pascal]

The new war formula, although it has nerfed whales, made wars much more RNG based. I don't like this.

[Zei-Sakura Alsainn]

47 minutes ago, Pascal said:

The new war formula, although it has nerfed whales, made wars much more RNG based. I don't like this.

 

When I hit C40s I got 2:1 k/ds 2775 vs 3000.

Later they got 2:1 against me doing 2500 vs 2775. I also got a pyrrhic when attacking with ground and ~50% more army strength so that was cool.

Well, I guess I owe an apology to Village for claiming it would be months when people started complaining. Looks like it was less than two weeks!

[Sweeeeet Ronny D]

1 hour ago, Kastor said:

This is a terrible answer. Like the worst answer you could ever give. You should have just said nothing instead. A wise man said nothing at all.

He is the computer guy, not customer service, what are you expecting here.  Atleast he is giving it to you straight.

[Village]

Also, my comments are purely on the rewrite, mechanical changes are absolutely open to redesign and consideration by the design team and community as needed. However, I’m not going to stop working to improve, modernize, and update the game simply because of a few issues that appeared on prod but not the test server. I’m going to do my best to fix those issues and move forwards, not backwards.

[Kastor]

6 hours ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

He is the computer guy, not customer service, what are you expecting here.  Atleast he is giving it to you straight.

Notice he came back to fix it lol 

[The Titan]

On 7/26/2023 at 7:01 PM, Village said:

Also, my comments are purely on the rewrite, mechanical changes are absolutely open to redesign and consideration by the design team and community as needed. However, I’m not going to stop working to improve, modernize, and update the game simply because of a few issues that appeared on prod but not the test server. I’m going to do my best to fix those issues and move forwards, not backwards.

Can you - at the very least - not mirror the units on the war page?

[Anarchist Empire]

Last thing a dev wants to hear is it sucks, throw it away and go back to the old code. So do see his point, better to focus on how to improve it. Rather than throw it out due to some early bugs.

[Diocletian]

On 7/26/2023 at 7:16 AM, Kastor said:

I don’t dislike the new system actually. I think it works better. Sort the bugs out and i think it’s fine. 
 

Defenders now have a slight advantage. I like it.

This is exactly the problem. The game should reward taking the initiative.

[Village]

5 hours ago, The Titan said:

Can you - at the very least - not mirror the units on the war page?

I'm going to look at it, if I recall correctly it didn't display well non-mirrored, I know I tried it but I designed that part of the card in I think April.