Hereno Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Yeah I'd respect that way more than how they handled it, tbh. It's not about elawyering, it's about making themselves look like incompetent !@#$. But you knew that, you aren't stupid. Hey though, maybe all that water you're carrying for your allies will impress them enough that you'll get a pat on the head or something. at least i'm talking about some shit i'm involved in and not popping in from the sidelines better watch where you're aiming that pistol at - you come at the king you best not miss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) >thinking i care what any of you think of me I know you don't, which is why I added "I know you don't care about that" at least i'm talking about some !@#$ i'm involved in and not popping in from the sidelines better watch where you're aiming that pistol at - you come at the king you best not miss You're not involved though, your allies are involved while you're popping in from the sidelines. At best you serve as moral support, which isn't a whole lot. Edited October 26, 2014 by Shellhound 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollysho Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The World War Beta snowball is rolling down the mountain and may soon become a massive ball of ice and snow. Quote [22:36:30] <&CMDR_Adama> I want to be spanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I know you don't, which is why I added "I know you don't care about that" You're not involved though, your allies are involved while you're popping in from the sidelines. and you're, by your best argument here, in a glass house throwing stones i have an ally involved in the war. i provided the logs that set off the powderkeg. who are you in all of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry, I forgot that you gave logs to EoS to try and impress the big boys. You allying EoS to try and seem relevant does not make you relevant, you're about as relevant as BoC who is actually in the bloc. It's time to crawl off EoS's !@#$, I know you want to try and impress them by talking a lot of !@#$ so you don't actually have to do anything but it's getting a little too obvious. Edited October 26, 2014 by Shellhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'm sorry, I forgot that you gave logs to EoS to try and impress the big boys. You allying EoS to try and seem relevant does not make you relevant, you're about as relevant as BoC who is actually in the bloc. It's time to crawl off EoS's !@#$, I know you want to try and impress them by talking a lot of !@#$ so you can not actually do anything but it's getting a little too obvious. you seem awful angry what's the matter? if it's personal, you can send me a PM and i won't tell anyone - cross my heart but if it's game related, you probably shouldn't trust me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seryozha Nikanor Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 "The Demon of Razgriz (the Demon from the North Sea) When history witnesses a great change Razgriz reveals itself, first as a dark demon As a demon it uses it’s power to rain death upon the land, and then it dies However after a period of slumber Razgriz returns… Amidst the eternal waves of time From a ripple of change shall the storm rise Out of the abyss peer the eyes of a demon Behold the Razgriz, its wings of black sheath The demon soars through dark skies Fear and death trail its shadow beneath Until men united wield a hallowed sabre In final reckoning, the beast is slain As the demon sleeps, man turns on man His own blood and madness soon cover the earth From the depths of despair awaken the Razgriz Its raven wings ablaze in majestic lightâ€. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 you seem awful angry what's the matter? if it's personal, you can send me a PM and i won't tell anyone - cross my heart but if it's game related, you probably shouldn't trust me And I still wonder why EoS decided to ally an alliance whose leader has repeatedly stated NOT to trust him. When he backstabs you EoS, just remember, he very clearly said not to trust him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohu Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I hope this means the iron markets will rebound because my bottom line would appreciate the boost... in any case, while the iron collapse wasn't expected this definitely was and now we've got a nice omelette cooking in the post. Enjoy the war fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 And I still wonder why EoS decided to ally an alliance whose leader has repeatedly stated NOT to trust him. When he backstabs you EoS, just remember, he very clearly said not to trust him. I think is better to trust someone who repeatedly told others not to trust him rather than one who pretends to be Friendly and cordial to everyone, appear protective of the new players but plant spies behind peoples back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I think is better to trust someone who repeatedly told others not to trust him rather than one who pretends to be Friendly and cordial to everyone, appear protective of the new players but plant spies behind peoples back. Trust the person you know for a fact you can't trust, brilliant. Let me know how that works out for you. Edited October 26, 2014 by Shellhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geronimo Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I bet TEst will take side with TAC in the near future and it will make this war more interesting though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Trust the person you know for a fact you can't trust, brilliant. Let me know how that works out for you. I'm just honest about it. The rest of you pretend that you can be trusted, but in reality, you're even worse than I am, because you won't even admit it despite everyone knowing the truth. Sound familiar? And if I do tell someone they can trust me, they can trust that I'm actually being honest about that, specifically because I will tell people who can't trust me to not trust me. My word is the most valuable of any leader who frequents these forums because I don't lie about what I'm willing or able to do. "The Socialist International does not have permanent friends or enemies - only interests." - Hereno Kissinger ----- To get back on topic: have fun, VoC. Edited October 26, 2014 by Hereno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frostsword Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'm sorry, I forgot that you gave logs to EoS to try and impress the big boys. You allying EoS to try and seem relevant does not make you relevant, you're about as relevant as BoC who is actually in the bloc. It's time to crawl off EoS's !@#$, I know you want to try and impress them by talking a lot of !@#$ so you don't actually have to do anything but it's getting a little too obvious. My my, how very rude of you. So hard to be a mid-tier alliance no respect to spare these days i guess. Quote Frostsword is love. Frostsword is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklaus Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) I'm just honest about it. The rest of you pretend that you can be trusted, but in reality, you're even worse than I am, because you won't even admit it despite everyone knowing the truth. Sound familiar? And if I do tell someone they can trust me, they can trust that I'm actually being honest about that, specifically because I will tell people who can't trust me to not trust me. My word is the most valuable of any leader who frequents these forums because I don't lie about what I'm willing or able to do. "The Socialist International does not have permanent friends or enemies - only interests." - Hereno Kissinger ----- To get back on topic: have fun, VoC. Keep using that approach and you will soon run out of your human 'tools' (*) to use. Some people use it and I despise them, especially the fact that they try to cover it up by putting up some sort of persona of a well-intentioned human being. At-least, you are better than them in that regard but the consequences will be same for you, just quicker. *That's what temporary, on-need basis, disposable 'friends' are called, in Machiavellian terms Coming to the main topic - I am not seasoned enough in politics to lecture anyone on any sort of political move (war being one of them) they make, after all leaders of an alliance know what's best for them and their alliance, but I think if EoS wanted to use all its resources, it would have been better to do so at the start, not in this way, with allies slowly coming in for help, one after another. In my opinion, done the way it has been done makes the pre-empt war take a direction similar to what would have been the case if EoS had been attacked first, with allies coming in defense later on to help them out. But I guess as long as it serves their purpose, doesn't matter the way it is executed. Edited October 26, 2014 by Niklaus Quote Blood of a king. Heart of a lion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) My my, how very rude of you. So hard to be a mid-tier alliance no respect to spare these days i guess. I like you guys (Well I like you, I don't really know the rest of BoC) but me liking you has nothing to do with how politically relevant you are (or I think you are), you signed the treaty joining TC and afterwards you didn't come to the forums thinking you're hot !@#$ because of it, it was business as usual for you; I can respect that. Edited October 26, 2014 by Shellhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrum Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Now replace the tortoise with TAC and the bunny with The Covenat and you have the current situation... I think... Edit: Spelling Error Sorry... Edited October 26, 2014 by Redrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoringNick Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Why is everyone getting upset that TAC started fighting a war against a bloc? I thought declaring war on one is declaring war on all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Am I allowed to mention this? Best FA guy ever. On behalf of the Government of the Dutch East India Company, I urge both side to sit down and solve their grievances in a diplomatic manner. Sorry to disappoint you, we aren't going in to spark a world war if that is what you are waiting for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarBuliwyf Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 The fact EoS needed people to come into a war that they started shows little but incompetence for the alliance as a whole. At least TAC could defend themselves in this war. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Snow Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Why is everyone getting upset that TAC started fighting a war against a bloc? I thought declaring war on one is declaring war on all. you might want to read the announcements a bit better. EoS declared war on taC. VOC/UPN then followed suit and activated their Aggression part of their bloc treaty with EoS to declare war on TAC either way, looks like ball is in II/TSG court edit: doesn't TAC/II/TSG have a bloc announcement thread? can't seem to find it :/ Edited October 26, 2014 by Jon Snow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNG Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 edit: doesn't TAC/II/TSG have a bloc announcement thread? can't seem to find it :/ They don't have an official bloc announcement on the forums here, so don't bother trying to find it. Quote "They say the secret to success is being at the right place at the right time. But since you never know when the right time is going to be, I figure the trick is to find the right place and just hang around!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <Kastor> He left and my !@#$ nation is !@#$ed up. And the Finance guy refuses to help. He just writes his !@#$ plays. <Kastor> And laughs and shit. <Kastor> And gives out !@#$ huge loans to Arthur James, that !@#$ bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 you might want to read the announcements a bit better. EoS declared war on taC. VOC/UPN then followed suit and activated their Aggression part of their bloc treaty with EoS to declare war on TAC either way, looks like ball is in II/TSG court edit: doesn't TAC/II/TSG have a bloc announcement thread? can't seem to find it :/ I'm fairly certain that's because they never signed the bloc agreement. Pub said on IRC yesterday that TAC doesn't have a treaty with II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollysho Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 To clarify, II doesn't hold a treaty with TAC. I'm not going to lie and say we're neutral and aren't morally supporting a particular side in this war, we are not planning on fighting. But as of last night TAC still didn't want TSG to come in, this might change things and obviously I wouldn't blame them. Quote [22:36:30] <&CMDR_Adama> I want to be spanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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