Murphy Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Wanna know what's weird ? I post a thing : Hillary vs Trump . 200views . 50 replies . Pokémon ! 3 views . 1 reply . Just sayin . . Anyways , what are your political beliefs ? ( ill state mine after 1st comment . ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikhan Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I am a Conservative who believes in Pro Life, I believe that Homosexuality is an Abomination (I don't hate homosexuals themselves though), I believe that people should have the right to bear arms, and I am a firm believer in individualism. I support NATO, as I support the United States continuing to support Israel (please do not start a flame war!). I completely think that we should not get rid of Nuclear Weapons as otherwise, we could be nuked and not be able to retaliate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Quill Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I am a social democrat who believes that government should work for the people, that people have a right to choose their sexuality and the gender they want to marry, that war should only be used if necessary, that guns should be kept in the hands of law abiding citizens and should not end up in the hands of some loony/terrorist, that women have a right to choose, that free trade is absolutely necessary in this day and age (and there's nothing you and I can do about it), that there should be a large welfare state to make sure everyone gets their fair share, and that Israel should stop playing the Holocaust card. Oh, and i'm also catholic btw 4 Quote <&Partisan> EAT THE SHIT <blacklabel> lol @ ever caring about how much you matter in some dumbass nation simulation browser game. what a !@#$in pathetic waste of life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Thorne Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I would most likely be a Democratic Socialist or Social Democrat. I believe that the market is controlling us rather than we controlling it as such the market should be heavily regulated while still allowing for economic competition and fairness. Another thing I follow is the concept of democracy without it the state tends to lose its way thus as shown with the implementation of communism throughout multiple nations never worked out quite as well due to corruption and bureaucracy within the ruling parties. Finally, I believe that people have a right to choose what they do with themselves so as long as it is not harmful to themselves and others. 2 Quote Through the Ashes, We Rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'm a conservative, but I'm open to some leftist economic ideas. I'd say I also fall in line under some very new and recent political trends, such as the Dark Enlightenment or the Alt-Right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Thorne Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I'm a conservative, but I'm open to some leftist economic ideas. I'd say I also fall in line under some very new and recent political trends, such as the Dark Enlightenment or the Alt-Right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment Would you say you oppose the idea of democracy from my reading of Dark Enlightenment or do you take ideas from that and make your own style? Quote Through the Ashes, We Rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Avalanche Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I will be blunt. I want to be left the !@#$ alone. I do not want to see any authority at all. I do not want neighbors. I seriously want to be left the !@#$ alone. !@#$ the government. The best government is the one not seen. 1 Quote Beer. Damn Good Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Would you say you oppose the idea of democracy from my reading of Dark Enlightenment or do you take ideas from that and make your own style? I oppose the idea of democracy, but I don't hate it. It's more that I am in favor of a monarchy than the current system and political situation here in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doktor Avalanche Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I oppose the idea of democracy, but I don't hate it. It's more that I am in favor of a monarchy than the current system and political situation here in America. Wait. Wut? You would pick a "divinely" appointed lineal Dictator for life to decide who lives and who dies while living a guaranteed plush existence and extremely out of touch with the Universe over a Democratically Elected Republic with a maximum two-term Presidential seat? 2 Quote Beer. Damn Good Beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covenant Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Nationalist Constitutionist. I believe in small government back home, with a big global presence. a balance between Strong Civil liberty with a strong military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacity Peace Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 The one that thinks that every political belief is at least mildly stupid, including this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacity Peace Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Wait. Wut? You would pick a "divinely" appointed lineal Dictator for life to decide who lives and who dies while living a guaranteed plush existence and extremely out of touch with the Universe over a Democratically Elected Republic with a maximum two-term Presidential seat? It's all semantics really, once you really look at it. Either we have all the power go to a leader who's most likely going to be corrupt, or we have America, where less than one thousand own most of the power, and a few of them aren't corrupt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Wait. Wut? You would pick a "divinely" appointed lineal Dictator for life to decide who lives and who dies while living a guaranteed plush existence and extremely out of touch with the Universe over a Democratically Elected Republic with a maximum two-term Presidential seat? Wait. Wut? You would pick a person who doesn't have to worry about the long-term repercussions of their decisions so as long as they get reelected and will have to pander and give special consideration to specific groups in order to do that in a system in which 51% of the people decide what the other 49% has to put up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Thorne Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I will be blunt. I want to be left the !@#$ alone. I do not want to see any authority at all. I do not want neighbors. I seriously want to be left the !@#$ alone. !@#$ the government. The best government is the one not seen. So probably an Anarchist then Quote Through the Ashes, We Rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 So probably an Anarchist then Lo Pan is a Libertarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Thorne Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Wait. Wut? You would pick a person who doesn't have to worry about the long-term repercussions of their decisions so as long as they get reelected and will have to pander and give special consideration to specific groups in order to do that in a system in which 51% of the people decide what the other 49% has to put up with? The USA is a bad example of a democracy. It is so corrupt and rigged that as long as you had money and influence specific people can and always will win unless you had a wave of popular support for a specific candidate even then it's still difficult. Countries like Sweden, Finland and Norway have some of the best governments in the world with their form of social democracy they have achieved high standards of education, high HDI percentages and generally fair as well as equal to all its citizens Edited August 15, 2016 by Stefan Thorne 1 Quote Through the Ashes, We Rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Von Dietrich Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Lo Pan is a Libertarian. borderline anarchist in reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Why is this in spam? I find it hard to put into a phrase but a National Liberal or Neo-Fascist of some sort might be close. Anti-war. Strong belief in ideas such as women's rights, homosexual rights, all the usual but you can add things in there like support for Polygamy/andry as my belief is the government should not be interfering in the bedroom between consenting adults. Also unconditional monetary support for all countrymen and a placing of them as a first priority. A rejection of globalism but not a rejection of mechanization. What gets the racist shouts however is the belief that Nationalism trumps multiculturalism and that immigrants should not be encouraged to build up all their little ghettos but instead be absorbed and integrated into the collective that is the National Fraternity. Wait. Wut? You would pick a person who doesn't have to worry about the long-term repercussions of their decisions so as long as they get reelected and will have to pander and give special consideration to specific groups in order to do that in a system in which 51% of the people decide what the other 49% has to put up with? He has a point in that in the autocrat stakes a Monarchy is quite outdated/weak. Monarchies have a lot of tradition which can be troublesome and the line of succession tends to simply be father to son which is problematic as while sons will often be groomed not everyone is suited for such a job (this is leaving out situations like all the groomed sons dying and the lazy decadent spare getting it). An elective monarchy fixes some of those issues but for that you need electors which could be the people of course, but in the past have been noble families (which brings it's own problems). Ideally for an autocracy you'd want I would say an autocrat who has his people in mind above himself, and who appoints a heir who has those same qualities. The problem is of course it only takes one bad judgement somewhere down the line and the path to either removal from power or corruption start being walked down. Cromwell for one example lost it all for the country when he appointed his inept son to take over when he could have appointed anybody to the position (ideally a experienced military commander). As a result Britain has been lumbered with a monarchy ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Quill Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I find it hard to put into a phrase but a National Liberal or Neo-Fascist of some sort might be close. This explains a lot. Quote <&Partisan> EAT THE SHIT <blacklabel> lol @ ever caring about how much you matter in some dumbass nation simulation browser game. what a !@#$in pathetic waste of life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 This explains a lot. Feel free to explain yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowstar1922 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Im a Marxist, so I believe heavily in the liberation of the working class and abolishing the dictatorship of employers in the economy. I believe workers should own the means of production and have control over the wealth they produce. I also believe workers should produce for the good of the people and the country instead of for greedy material reasons. I am a firm believer of intersectionality and I think its a good tool to observe class and racial and gender divisions in hopes to bring them together. Im a firm believer in homosexual rights and transgender rights and I am for polyamorous relationships too. Im staunchly anti imperialist too, so I dont really like the USA, Russia, China, France, the UK, Saudi Arabia, Iran, India, and/or other countries who try to impose themselves on other nations. I support Palestine and I support Kurdistan a lot. I believe racism and sexism is alive and well in society and it is most needed to be challenged in nations of Africa, ME, and Asia, for various governments of various ideologies really put down other ethnicities and sexualities and women and its just plain out horrible. Doesnt mean it doesnt exist in Western societies, though. I am all for gun control (what marxist isnt??). keep the working class armed. I am all for a green energy plan, oil is horrendous. the US is like 1/3 desert what is stopping us from getting all our electricity from there? I believe firmly in indigenous rights and freedoms and there should definitely be a long, careful, thoughtful, and efficient process of aiding indigenous people and bringing their populations back and slowly giving them their land back. Im all for abortions too, womens rights. It is their body, their choice. im not sure what else to put, i already feel like I have sad a lot LOL 1 Quote the spice girls started the cold war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 - Nationalism: Love my countries history. Lots to be proud of. Hate my current Government though, doing a damn good job ruining it. I like foreigners loving Germany much more then Antifa Idiots from the own rows. - Egalitarian Liberalism: Every citizen should be treated the same, with the same rights and duties. No special rights for minorities, majorities, genderqueers or Helicopters. Maybe for the disabled though. - Social market economy: The state should support small and big business in the country to preserve employment, even if these businesses couldn't survive without subsidies. Minimum wages are a must! Unions should play a much more important role in companies to support the worker's rights, though should step back in harsh time (wartime for example). Assurances (like health or contents assurance) are very important, and should be mandatory. Private assurance should be forbidden. Everyone helps everyone, asocial behaviour sucks. I'm even for a somewhat for a basic income, though it should only be paid if one works at least 20h per week, so to say additional to the normal wage. Military: There should be a 1 year conscription for everyone, with harsh terms to avoid it. Women should serve too at the weapon, but it should be avoided as far as possible to send them to the frontlines. Men fight for their land and their families. If the family sits besides him at the front, what do we fight for, if not for the rich fat cats? - Racism: Racism should be uhm.. avoided? Well, some racism is justified. Gypsies always do shady Gypsy things for example, or muslims sometimes self explode. That's how it is. And it's only naive to deny it, for silly political correctness reasons. Foreign relations: Yes to Israel, no to Palestine. The Israelis have 1 country in the world, and before the spread to everywhere again, they shall protect their coastal line. Damn Palestines, they're sunni arabs, there are lots of similar countries around them. That's what a lost war is about: Relocation. And if Israels neighbours don't take their own brethren, then sorry, but they're all !@#$. No foreign aid to states. And if, then the foreign aid should go into directly controlled NGO's. For what-do-i-know 60 years there's foreign aid going down to africa and the likes, and what has actually been accomplished with that? Anti-Imperialism. I don't like having colonies at all. Every people should have their part of the earth, every people should have a playce they can deported to when the !@#$ up anywhere (unwanted refugees for example). On the other side, there are historical borders. Denouncing them totally is idiotic either. Schlesien, Preußen and Pommern are German for example. North Iraq and southern Turkey is Kurdish, Eastern Turkey is Armenian. Western Turkey is Greek. Ha, that country could just vanish USA vs Russia. Germany was always neither western, nor eastern. Always a central (power), and should seek the balance between those two. If in the future Clinton should win, i fear for combat actions along the border, while Trump looks like a guy to be chummy with Putin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Jerry Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) I'd say I am a minarchist Libertarian who is for laissez-faire capitalism. I am fairly conservative, or old school if you will. I believe in the freedoms of our Constitution I believe in a strong military to protect that Constitution. I believe in equal rights all the time, not only for when it suits someone. I am Pro-choice (up to certain time frame....ie before the fetus could survive on it's own outside the womb) and believe a women has the right to do with body as she pleases and the government should have no say in the matter. I believe in the right to bear arms, but with some controlled measures in place. I believe that a good sized portion of my hard earned money should NOT be going to some douche-bag because they are to lazy, or to stupid to get a job. I believe welfare needs to be reformed....big time....and that people should be doing at least some community service to earn their welfare. (I have a whole plan for that which would be for another thread). I believe in the death penalty for certain crimes and that the time waiting on death row should be reformed so the taxpayer doesn't have waste their money on keeping a scumbag alive.....just so he be executed (again, another topic for another time). I could go on and on.....but I think you folks get the picture. Edited August 15, 2016 by Sailor Jerry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostWorld Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Social-Democracy. Because it's a middleground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Thorne Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Foreign relations: Yes to Israel, no to Palestine. The Israelis have 1 country in the world, and before the spread to everywhere again, they shall protect their coastal line. Damn Palestines, they're sunni arabs, there are lots of similar countries around them. That's what a lost war is about: Relocation. And if Israels neighbours don't take their own brethren, then sorry, but they're all !@#$. No foreign aid to states. And if, then the foreign aid should go into directly controlled NGO's. For what-do-i-know 60 years there's foreign aid going down to africa and the likes, and what has actually been accomplished with that? I agree that Israel has a right to exist ,however that is no excuse for the Government to commit war crimes and breach international through acts of aggression and forced displacement of Palestinians. Furthermore what you said about Palestine is like saying,Italians only have one nation in the world, Damn French they are Catholic Europeans there are lots of similar countries around them if French neighbours don't take their own brethren then they are bad people. What you said gross oversimplification of the situation and I say you should take a deeper look into what is really happening there Edited August 16, 2016 by Stefan Thorne 2 Quote Through the Ashes, We Rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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