Krampus

Please, before commenting, read HS's "statement of facts". Even it clearly says we offered 3-4bn and they deemed it "unacceptable". They wanted 8bn and were unwilling to bulge on that. Their "obvious" negotiations were only insofar as them wanting to get an extortionate amount. Again, even your allies document shows screenshots of us saying i was looking to retire and offering them the ceo position (revan speecifically - their econ head). and them suggesting a low gov. The point is to show that we did try. >For instance I don't start shady poorly run bank because I know I don't have time I didn't start the bank. The bank was started 3 years ago by bendi (OWR), i simply took it over after he left. His book keeping was even worse than this. I tried my best to reorganize it, but fell to neglect after OWR mass deleted. It was just not worth the time and effort All in all this response can be summed up as "krampus man bad", lol

Please stop using the forums

hey thats a very cool site you got there limi, why dont you drop a link or five? (im helping you plug :serious:)

from rolling CTO with Midgard to rolling Midgard with CTO, aurora has seen the light

good times! lets do it again @Prefonteen

I hope y'all signed a prenup, otherwise MILF is getting 50% of your property TNS

no doubt my vote made all the difference

Zigbir is not allowed to criticize hof apparently try asking for a TLDR :serious:

I can't tell if you're that disconnected from reality or just a very dedicated troll but ok no one is giving camelot shit for npolt. at least not in this day and age. but i must give props to epi for being able to brainwash his members into whatever this post was, this is a level of propaganda i aspire to reach

I have a sneaking suspicion this is their recruitment message

https://politicsandwar.com/nation/unique/id=525193

Thank you for this information

Nice!

Honestly, this. the amount of people who couldn't tell this was a joke is astonishing. par for the course for pnw I suppose

Don't worry Aurora, VIRIDIAN ENTENTE WILL PROTECT YOU

I'm looking forward to my MDP with Arrgh @Sam Cooperget on it

Denison being creative with the generic war declaration messages Whats next? All your base are belong to us?!

Sir, this is the wrong thread, this post should be made under r/im14andthisisdeep On a serious note, I agree completely with you on the bank/business concerns. That's what happens when everyone with a breath can open up a "bank". Unfortunately as long as there are gullible people, there will be micro banks trying to scam you out of your money. - "don't let me start with debt traps" What you described is actually an unrealistic scenario, most debt trapping doesn't occur with low tier noobs. A noob doesn't know better to leave his current alliance to join another one, so it is unnecessary to waste hundreds of millions as you say on c1s. Not to mention, they'll have activity problems if they get everything on day 1 and probably go inactive, which is to say this doesn't happen often. This gets ignored often, but typically, members who take grants/loans do so knowing the strings attached with it. Afterall, no one is operating a charity here, so expecting to take hundreds of millions or even billions in grants, only to bail the next week, is obviously not going to fly. - "There's no point fighting" If your alliance encourages this behaviour, than you're probably in the wrong place. Most alliances who offer rebuilds after wars won't do so for members who didn't participate at all. Then again, my view is non-micro oriented. - "until I made gov, I was completely voided by my alliance" I have two things to say in this instance. If, as a fresh new member to the alliance, you expect to be given a voice in big decisions, then you're delusional. For obvious reasons, noobs and newcomers can't be trusted with information that pertains to the security of the alliance. But, if for example, your alliance can't give you proper reasoning for actions they take, tax farms you, or shuts you out in that regard, the responsibility is on you to leave. if it's such a place I'm guessing they'll try to steal your deposits as well, so withdraw your deposits with an excuse like building AUP or a city, and get the hell out of dodge.

damn that's crazy

Funny you say this, but both CTOwned and Locutus are well over hundreds of thousands of lines of code. I wonder how much dev time gets wasted implementing the same stuff that has already been implemented by other people, just in a different alliance.

400 lines straight of if / elif hell

Whoever makes art for TFP needs a promotion

Don't worry Kan, we all know your bloc isn't small, it's averaged sized with a great personality!!!