Gaius Julius Caesar

Listen here you little bastard. One: Putmir is my wife, no calling my wife your daddy. Two: I married Putmir, I had children with Putmir, only I get to bully that sexy fox.

That's fine, but don't portray it as the treaty was done to help tCW get on its feet. tCW had been through worse and had survived. tCW was on its feet, it was just looking for allies. As we said in the chat itself, tCW was intending on joining Swamp, and that it was a trial period. You and Alexio talked about it needing to be a trial period, and nothing that was said in your screenshot gives any sense of it being a temporary thing to help tCW get on its feet. What Sphinx is talking about is his desire to get rid of TEst as allies, as well as Carthago, and fix internal issues, especially ones that were economic, due to the fact that tCW's economics was in shambles, due in large part to his meddling and interferring in them. Sphinx himself also talked about the fact that tCW was not an alliance that really led blocs. When it was allies with TKR, and Guardian, no one in their right mind thought it was the leader of that bloc. When tCW was with BK, no one thought it was the leader of that bloc. Sphinx said himself, tCW was an economic alliance that did not care to lead blocs and did not really like to fight wars. From the very beginning, the intention from tCW, which we were open and honest about, was not to have a temporary ally to allow us to get back on our feet, our intent was to get entrance to another bloc.

Thanks for @ing me so I could know when you responded. Don't worry though, I'm still here. Let's address a few things here. The first of which is, no, you're not gonna wiggle out of this one. You did indeed caution that that tCW bloc joining Swamp would make it too large, I will confirm this is true, you and the other Swamp reps did do this. That being said, the desire of this was not to get tCW on its feet, Tyrion, I'm not gonna let you try to make that argument. More than a few full on discussions happened as to which tCW allies would be dropped, one of which was TEst, although UPN was also another alliance that was named but Sphinx was oddly defensive of UPN for some reason. Embassies in each of the Swamp alliance discords were created, members of tCW flooded into the embassy and the discord and economic dealings were made. On more than a few occasions, including in the group chat and in your own alliance's embassy, things were referred to as tCW proving itself to Swamp, before being given more full fledged access. TLDR; Size was indeed a concern, although that was something that was settled before the treaties were even signed, don't lie to me Tyrion. As for the concern of Sphinx causing tCW to join Quack, don't give me that shit, Tyrion. As was said on @Thalmor's lovely radio show when Sphinx and I were guest stars, @Scratchy asked both Sphinx and I about tCW and the idea of forming hegemonies, due to tCW's history with Hegemonies (IQ). Both Sphinx and myself said neither of us had any intention of that happening and would refuse to let it happen. I believe my exact words were something along the lines of "If something like that was happening, I would retire and walk away, because I won't be part of that" although someone can go watch the show to figure out what I said exactly. Even if we don't want to take what was said at face value, let's look at the reality of the situation. Sphinx did not like TKR or T$. Sphinx, on multiple occasions, talked about wanting to beat Quack because he thought they were too strong and were bad for the game. Sphinx made no secret that he held a lot of bad blood towards TKR stemming all the way back to Knightfall, as he blamed TKR for forcing tCW to stay in the war for the sake of TKR's pride, and that it cost tCW a number of whales and long time members and friends. Sphinx also made no secret about the fact that he had a strong distaste for The Syndicate and its members. Seeing as Sphinx wanted to retain UPN as a direct ally, do you genuinely believe there was any possibility of @Prefonteen allowing tCW to join Quack? The Snake, with UPN in his bloc? I think the frick not. So Quack is out of the picture as a potential ally if Swamp said no, don't give that bullshit excuse, Tyrion. Now, let's look at the other blocs. There was Rose and Camelot, but again, there was no hiding the fact that Sphinx, and more than a few members of tCW gov had strong distaste for Camelot due to certain members there, so the idea of tCW signing up with Rose and Camelot was, while technically possibly, was honestly less likely than tCW deciding to be a neutral and paperless alliance again. The last major bloc out there was Hedge, and I'm sure we don't need to go into details as to why that was not a viable option, but just to make it clear, bad blood between tCW and Grumpy (I remembered Ronnie) due to fighting in NPO's Last Time, as well as the still lingering matter of Sphinx wanting to fight Children Of The Light over the matter of the return of Odin's safekeeping. Big TLDR: Getting tCW on its feet is a lie, and the idea of signing tCW so it didn't sign with other blocs is a lie, because there were no real other blocs tCW was going to sign with.

So I'm not here to comment about the first half of this post, that's been done to death. I am here, however, to comment about the second half of this post. As someone who was in that chat, Tyrion, that's a bold face lie. I was in this chat from the beginning of it, and I left when I left The Commonwealth. I was vocal in that chat, I was very active in that chat, and I read all of the messages of that chat. I was there, as I was serving as the head of Foreign Affairs. at no point whatsoever was it ever said the treaty was to help TCW get back on its feet. As someone who was there, what was said was that it was a trial period. It was said that that level of the treaty was while tCW proved itself and addressed the concerns about Swamp. It was specifically said that when those concerns were addressed, TCW would address more fully and completely joining Swamp. It was not given access to the coalition servers. It was not allowed to vote on things as a full-fledged member of swamp. It was however said that it would be allowed to be vocal on its opinion on things. At no point whatsoever was it said that this treaty was to help the Commonwealth get back on its feet. You can have whatever reasons you want for fighting this war, but as someone who was in the chat, don't expect me to sit here and let you lie about what was said in that chat, and what the purpose of it was.

Congrats folks!

Sphinx got hit.... Repeatedly.... Hard... And he realized "Hey wait a second, this is kinda nice" and it was at that moment that every member of tCW gov called their therapists and booked many, many sessions of therapy because of the mental scarring.

First. Glad to get the treaty signed, Lads. Looking forward to a long and healthy relationship!

Well fought by all sides. Glad to see we can have wars that aren't toxic.

My children, going off to war, as I get beaten to death. I promise kids, these tears of blood I shed are proud tears. GLHV

I look forward to the thrilling war I have ahead of me. @Prefonteenit will be in the form of a rap battle, correct?

Touche, good sir. Touche.

Crucifixion you say? First you wish to touch my cheeks, now you want to nail me? My girlfriend will certainly be giving me an angry call tonight. Will you at least call me after it happens? We can go get supper? Also, if I get crucified, do I get a cool religion like that one guy?

Please leave your name, phone number, and message at the beep, and I shall get back to you whenever I am able to...... beeeeeeep.

Hello to you too. I'm a friendly person, with a healthy relationship with my girlfriend, please stay away from my rear, and do not touch my cheeks. I do not consent to this.

I'm just curious. For those who made, say.... 20 to 30 thousand tanks building up to the NAP, they would have lost out on thousands of steel. Would people be reimbursed for the steel, or did they just happen to have bad luck and even worse timing? Edit: In the time it took me to write this, three other people asked the same question. My god.

@Yui You already get the vast majority of my Ellie Photos, but here are three more, just for you. SMH. Bad pirates get put in the naughty, no raiding corner to think about what they've done.

I pledge my sword to the banner of the King in the North, Zygon Stark By the old gods and the new down with the tyranny of the Squeegee with honor, loyalty, and direwolves for all

I have no personal interest in this, but generally that's not something you need to say. If one need to SAY they're not a terrorist organization, there are things to be concerned about.

I see what you are saying, but I would like to bring up a few points. The first, and primary disagreement I have with your statement is that this is not the first time such a this has occurred, There have been many instances of people dropping out of alliances to raid inactive members before, as has been stated by multiple people on this thread, yet I do not recall many, if any, instances of those being marked as slot filling, so I would like to express concern there. The second point I would like to address is the matter of the concept of it being a "fledgling raid." The raids were done to be triumphant victories, as Sphinx said, that was discussed in the tCW government channel. The members were not told to do the least amount of damage possible, they were told to get triumphant victories, which they did. We specifically discussed if this would be considered slot filling, because as an alliance, we did not intend on breaking the rules, again I address Sphinx offering to allow you to see what we said and when we said it in our gov channel for clarity. If it was known we would have to have max soldiers, I assure you, that would have been done, but that brings me to my third point. If the wars were declared, and multiple days was spent just making soldiers, would the same claim not have been made? That this was a case of slot filling? The members declared their wars with their soldiers, and attempted to raid in a timely manner, which is reasonable, in my opinion. It seems unfair to mark members down with slot filling for a rule that they, and it seems many here, did not know existed. My fourth and final post, and thank you to everyone who has come with me on this journey, I apologize for making you read my words but won't pay for your therapy, is that in the instance of Medici, he was a member of tCW. That means myself, Sphinx, and every other member of gov who has access to the alliance control panel, can see what he possesses in his nation, and we looked at that and came to the conclusion that, despite Medici possessing a few hundred million dollars, that was not a concern for us, as the alliance makes enough money to recoup that in the span of a few days, as are a large alliance. What Medici possessed that was valuable was the resources, both refined and raw, which were worth far more than the money itself he possessed, and the only method with which those raw and refined resources could be recovered would be, naturally as you know, via defeating Medici in a war, commonly known as "beiging" a nation. Your point of saying we desire to keep Medici on beige indefintely is unfair due to this reason, as the game as it is currently structured, forces us to beige Medici in order to recover that which we desire, his raw and refined resources.

So, and I will accept the warning point against my account in this matter, is this an official statement that any and all raid wars that take place without being on pirate, and having max soldiers are slot filling? If that is the case, fine, so be it, but then the same ruling should apply to every other nation that does the same thing. If that is not the case, then this would be a discrepancy in moderation, and would be a clear red flag, at least in my opinion @Alex

So, just to clarify. The number 113 alliance, with eight members, and an average score of 442 and a total score of 3,562.02 is declaring war on the number 6 alliance, with 187 members, and an average score of 1,252.05 score, for a total of 234,132.44 score? I appreciate the enthusiasm, but there's a clear ending here.

@Dr James Wilson I prefer to conveniently "forget" Wilson's cancer and like to remember the ending as them going on a road trip. Just two happy bros on a road trip.

I mean, from what I recall about the way the show ended..... he was doing something right