Sphinx

Well I guess I sold my Infra for no reason then...... RIP Good Hunting t$,

I still don't know why we can't hand you over to the enemy and say "Here he is, this is the one you want".

Maybe them losing two wars in a row might temper their desire for stats. ;,p

Actually I did that in 2 cities by mistake (Bought back to 2k from 1.5k in those 2) but I fixed it in all 35 others where I dropped from 3.8k to 2k.

Can't fault you for trying. @Frawley Also mate question, are my Infra losses as shown in the war stats based the amount of Infra at the point of the attack or are they tabulated at the start of a day or turn or something? Just curious to know when it counts the Infra from. Good old Grumpy allowing us the chance to beat BK in damage dealt for now, by over $1.2b.

Would love to mate, especially since its your shout since I drank all my alcohol last week after the leak. Also RIP your nukes lets hope they're in a better place.

I rebuilt my 3.8k from Knightfall so its no issue for me to rebuild, saved up plenty.

We handled this better than Knightfall's rolling, so I'm pretty happy. 1st round was going to be tough for us regardless,

So looking forward to catching up with the recordings of the shows I missed (Damn timezone problems......), just hope I don't die of old age before Baldo and Kev post them.

Wait..... does this mean Keynes is a protectionist now?

Better to go out with a bang than with a whimper, Best of luck to you guys, hope you end up staying in the game. Uhmm, not counting the fact that Uriah didn't cheat. You realise that many many times cheaters do win, its just in this case they got caught for being too cocky. Good to see you back in TF, hope you guys get back on track as quick as you can. Don't worry Madden just does these posts that make no sense sometimes,

Uhmm, I don't know if you've been using Internet Explorer, but TU merged into tCW months ago. Their leader @RightHonorable became an IA deputy in tCW as well. The active members merging with us and so did TU's bank as well. The inactive ones were the only ones left.

We've offered places to several members of Nova in tCW but anyone can apply to join tCW if they so wish. Sorry to see these !@#$s harassing your guys. Anyone that does this should be publicly shamed. Hope you're doing well Uriah, its sad to see this position you were put in. No seriously its all part of Inst's plan to win the new Orbis 2020 award "Most insane forum poster".

No, its wrong to punish normal members who didn't do anything wrong by continually rolling them to make them quit. They didn't know the assets that paid for their cities came from ill-gotten gains, nor did they ask for this and they don't deserve to have guilt by association for the crimes of the leadership. TCW attacked to punish the alliance but we never intended to perma roll them, which is why once most of the guilty parties had left Nova I ordered tCW members not to launch anymore wars against Nova and to wrap up the ones they have. As long as the ring leaders are banned and the illegal resources are removed from the game, I am happy that justice has been served.

For the record, no one in tCW asked for any resources from Poo/Aku, we don't want illicit gains created by cheaters and we would never accept any under any circumstances. Its a shame that Alex's original idea was to pretty much do nothing and allow $86b in cheated resources to be used with out any form of punishment, only back flipping when faced with massive community outrage. At least we (BK/TCW/Horsemen/Aku) did something about it, but I agree players actions are at best a band aid and not any form of resolution to inadequate and inconsistent moderation.

Which according to your numbers they sold off $86 billion of the $209 billion generated. So that only 8% of their illicit gains removed, They still profited enormously from this scam, but thank you for at least taking the community advice, I hope they receive far more punishment than that though.

@Filmore The whole alliance should be punished if they keep that up, their practically rubbing it in others faces. If Nova don't face some form of punishment akin to Terradoxia then who's to say that they won't do this again if they find some other bug to exploit.

ZI pact Nova?

I agree the avg Nova member doesn't deserve punishment, but for Poo to claim he didn't know where those resources came from is so clearly an insult to our intelligence. I can say I know exactly how much tCW has in our offshore, and I'd wager every single alliance leader does (Keeping track of that is our job and I'd be failing tCW if I didn't know). The fact is the growth of the top gov members of Nova was illegally obtained, I personal don't want to see them banned, but I feel they should be reset back to one city and have their inventory wiped at the very least since otherwise their lies have gotten them off Scot-free. (Apart from destroying their credibility with the wider community.)

I guess crime does pay. Next time my bank deposits $1 million into my account by mistake I'll just go buy a Ferrari. The bank records of Nova high gov clearly show far more than those totals so they've used a large amount of those resources so far (Probably in their wars against KETOG/Panth and of course for buying new cities for their high gov). its good the ill-gotten resources are gone from the game but their should be a punishment for those actions in knowingly exploiting a bug to the degree that they did.

Why punish others and ruin their experience just for the sins of others? Nova is the one in question any punishment should be squarely on their shoulders.

I don't think Nova members need to be punished. Just Nova's bank being wiped and all gov being reset to one city and their Inventory wiped would suffice. 100/100 taxes wouldn't get you close to the amounts you have mate, so I know you guys are panicking but in times like this you're just digging a deeper ditch when you try and lie. For your own sake I hope its true and that it was in-fact a bug from the game and not an exploit someone in Nova took advantage of, but again as an alliance leader you can't be thick enough to be so oblivious to hundreds of billions of resources suddenly appearing out of nowhere and then proceed to sell and use said resources for over a month at least. Its clearly one of two outcomes mate, either your lying to save your skin, or if your are telling the truth then your dumbest man on the planet. IN B4 Alex hires Nova to be his bug testing team

Would certainly help lower global salt levels, so a good idea.

Nova really demonstrated, what exemplary fellows they are with their conduct this war, totally not a mafia shake down organisation or anything.