japan77

The closeness between your flag and tC's is going to become a CB someday...probably. Otherwise, good luck.

Ok, as a person who isn't in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) and never has been, this just seems entirely stupid. From what I have read on these forums, it seems the alliance equivalent of Alpha declare on the alliance equivalent of T$ in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) with "For Steve", and as far as I know Steve in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) is Placentica. So it appears that in retaliation to getting effectively besieged by T$ on orbis, Alpha has decided to retaliate through (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) where they hold the upper hand. Under these circumstances it seems the current crossover can be attributed to Alpha, and spiraling out of control from there. While some crossover is to be expected due to alignments that are apparently pretty stable in regards to (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), having policy decisions influenced in one game based on the other seems to be an ineffective way to play both games, if we are attempting to keep the two Universes separate. In which case, in regards to this specific situation, Alpha appears to be the transgressor. Also, for anti-NPO sentiment existing in one sphere, I question your statement. If it was as severe as you have suggested, why would you have an MDoAP with TKR, who is clearly stuck in the other sphere from the rest of your allies? There may be some carry over in T$ for instance, which is clearly opposite of you in (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways), but given that IC is technically in MI6 last I heard from him, if such hate was as common place as you seem to be suggesting, this treaty should not have arisen. Clearly this game should be kept separate from (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) or other similar games with similar alliance breakdowns. In which case, I am suggesting NPO is attempting to overstate the threat to themselves due to perceived levels of hate from (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) MI6 members in T$. In regards to T$, I am curious as to what degree the perceived threat of (That terrible game that is totally irrelevant and I shouldn't be bringing it up anyways) NPO members jumping ship to P&W impacts your policies. Ideally it should not impact you due to the fact that these players should be treated as new players joining NPO on their own accord. As such, I view their current reaction to be unnecessary and wildly out of line in regards to the given situation, which probably increased the level of tension in regards to this entire situation. Basically, I am suggesting T$ is blowing up a situation that doesn't heavily apply. While defending chimera from an unnecessary accusation is in fact something that you should have done, the rest of the OP is overreacting to a situation that should not heavily impact how this game plays out. All in all, in regards to this situation, I see Alpha as the transgressor of the bridging of the two universes, NPO as failing at perceiving a supposed threat that they have heavily exaggerated, and T$ blowing up a situation that wasn't nearly as large as provided. This has since spiraled out of control as each alliance attempts to uphold its standing and reputation within P&W. Not a member of TKR gov, do not take this as a message from TKR gov

Interestingly, GPA is still in first....

yay! little buddies.

well, this just seems completely pointless. Anyway, here's a go around at a potential treaty option given the last 21 pages +other BS elsewhere Alpha gets a conditional NAP for 45 days. Alpha issues the apology. Everyone peaces out.

96 hour break rather than usual 72? Eh, congrats.

well, I guess T$ is using this for live combat practice rather than the Usual way of doing such activity.

I'm trying to be reasonable, so I can actually get a chance to fight the next time a war rolls around. Mostly because IC likes blue-balling the entire TKR alliance every time tensions run high.

Ok, So what I'm getting from this is 1. T$ offered alpha peace terms along the lines of a white peace+apology over a group of post that was clearly OOC 2. Alpha believes that this rape-incident was an elaborate setup by T$ to screw over alpha leadership through a complex tricks of backdoors 3. As such Alpha refuses to agree to issue the Apology, and pushes for NAP 4. T$ doesn't like negotiating NAPs for obvious reasons of this game currently being split into two spheres 5. Alpha refuses to recognize T$'s temporary FA leader 6. T$ member posted a rape video in IRC in Alpha's channel and did other bad things there previously, and Alpha believes nothing was done beyond a quick apology by the 2nd in command FA 7. T$ now claims that the member that acted as such has been disciplined 8. Alpha is claiming it has let that slide, but won't allow this to slide As a result: Peace talks have totally broken down, and neither side likes talking to each other at this point T$ demands: Apology, which Alpha is refusing over the fact that it doesn't believe it got a proper apology on a former incident, and white peace Alpha demands: NAP Alright, so here's my suggestion after analyzing this: 1. Alpha accepts the temp FA leader as temp FA leader. 2. Both sides apologize over those activities in question, and punish those responsible by doing something, and tell the other side what they will do as punishment, and have both sides approve the punishment as the correct one for such an act 3. White Peace with an Alpha-T$ NAP with a clause that involves no attacks on those treatied with T$ for 6 months. That's just my suggestion...btw, not gov for TKR, so do not view as a post from TKR. Edit: I failed to notice that T$ has apparently already punished their member involved, so as such Alpha should just do the same exact punishment.

Good luck catching up, your only 2 weeks behind

I like how everyone is saying 2 is always better than 1, here's a hint it isn't. For instance a two front war is much harder to defend against than a 1 front war.

Wow that's just evil... Also, I would like a confirmation from some of the other co-conspirators, And TEst's DOW makes total sense now, and happens to be totally valid as a CB.

Awww. so you aren't calling in your friends? got blue-balled again. D*mmit IC

Good luck guys, here's to avoiding fighting you.

I can't quite figure out why there is a bishop for a Japanese Shinto god. Anyways, this looks good. Also congrats.

Why Tuesdays? Anyways congrats

So when you block someone, you cannot see messages from them, that is all correct? So If I blocked someone, they should still be able to declare war or embargo me right?

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o/TKR

good luck, you'll need it

Good luck, you'll need it

I don't think insulting mods is a good idea, just saying

Nah, I'll say something controversial to get it going OO is the best block

Another suggestion that I thought of, mostly because the former one got shot down, and I do want a fix to this problem because it keeps spiraling, and it seems few people like any options offered by Sheepy or the status quo or for that matter anyone offered by the community. A minimum standing army to receive the economic bonus of staying on color, based on your overall population.