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Given the track record of banks in this game, blacklisting HoF'ers would actually be a generous service.

If The Grand Coalition and HollyRo$e teamed up, we would have a 15% chance of defeating The Johnsons.

I have 2 questions then: 1 - What stops Hollywood and Celestial from doing this again in the future? What if Clock hits somebody else much later this year? Would this just happen again? 2 - If the treaty continues past the war, what will you do? And y'all need to stop with this 'do something lol' rhetoric. You guys put yourself in a hegemonic position, with a massive advantage in the upper tier. Celestial in particular also has a massive economic edge. You're not tough for asking the C21 guy with 110M to their name to challenge the C32 guy who has over a billion banked up. Remember this symbol? What did it mean?

You're completely right. I made my first post at six in the morning when I was dead tired, and got my timeline all messed up. It was three years, not four. Thanks for setting the record straight on that. There is no arguing that everyone in the game outside of Celestial and Hollywood is unhappy with this move (even people in your own bloc have voiced displeasure). Downvotes is one measure, but there's also plenty of discussion on public Discords (DNN, RON, Thalmoria, VGM) of people expressing their frustration from all over the game.

These just aren't mutually exclusive. I don't have to make up my mind about anything. Blocs forming MDPs with each other is something that can only occur within a multisphere world - which is more free - while also being bad for the game. I'm sorry that any political opposition more fierce than a forum downvote is a existential threat to The Syndicate. You have my condolences.

TKR's actions nearly half a decade ago is overshadowed by their moves against minispheres in more recent times. Those moves being the formation of Hollywood and this treaty. If a Pastor went on a mission trip, to then come back home to stop preaching, deal drugs, and commit armed robbery, does his old mission trip mean he's still a man of God? No, it doesn't. The mission trip was a good thing, sure; as was the formation of Chaos. But I just don't think the past is validating present bad acts. I also disagree that minispheres is dead. There's 6 distinct spheres. These past two years have had very organic, unpredictable, and fluid politics occur between the spheres. I mean, nobody saw this treaty coming. Nobody saw Mystery-Oasis happening. Nobody saw Guns and Rose happening (or ending) the way it did. Nobody saw Hollywood forming. Nobody saw Quack disbanding. The list goes on. We live in a multisphere world that is far different from the bipolarity of the early years of the game. It doesn't exist 'in theory,' it exists in practice in the present. Ironically, it's moves like this treaty that are taking steps to end this multipolarity. Very ironic to see people from the same side sticking the knife in and say "oh yeah, crime is getting really bad these days." And to say that "The whole damn community is against the idea" is completely arrogant. You're not blind. This thread is 14 pages long because there is massive community backlash to this move. I shouldn't have to explain that the leaders and FA heads of t$, Rose, and TKR aren't the whole community. There are half a dozen distinct spheres because the broader community - and political decision makers who weld some kind of power - want and have wanted decentralized, freer politics. Right now, the only people who are acting like they're against multispheres are Celestial and Hollywood- who might have bigger nations on average but are still in the minority of active players.

That was over four years ago.

Of course you can join, my friend. I posted my response the day after this thread went up. He still had a nation then. Perhaps he fled to protect his mother's estate? In any case, I accept full responsibility for his deletion. You're also free to join me and Biel at his mom's place, Etat. I heard she's a big woman, with big needs.

Clock likes to fight. Let's say, for example, they hit HM or Johnsons in 5 months. What stops Celestial and Hollywood from doing this again?

This is like, a schizophrenic-level perception of reality. Here's the downvotes on the HollyRo$e's announcement thread: Here's the upvotes in this thread to Keegoz's OP (after just 5 hours): This isn't a hard science, but the forum's reputation system is a good way of gauging community response to things. The community seems pretty hard against what y'all are doing, and are pretty happy with what Keegoz is saying. Bro, would it be easier for you if I just gave you my PO box? That way you can just write me a love letter directly and hopefully get you some relief.

These kids would shit their pants if they saw a treaty web from 2015-2017.

In this thread, we post pictures of clocks and what we like about them. I'll go first: I like this clock because it's religious, and I'm religious. It's kinda boomer-like, and that left hand makes it a bit hard to see the 10, but I'm willing to look past that.

don't care + didn't ask + ratio + L + cringe + you're hegemonic

Just in this thread, you have Insert Name Here and Indger. Hodor and Buorhann also seem to have some skepticism over it. I'll admit that these 4 are all Hollywood people, and that I don't have anyone from Celestial to point you to, but I stand by my original statement that the irritation is across the community.

The displeasure is game-wide. People from all spheres and alignments have expressed some kind of negative emotion in reaction to this treaty- including from within Celestial and Hollywood. Show me on the doll where the time people touched you.

Shameless self-promotion: Kev, Decagon, Kan, James Wilson, Roberts, and Morf all came onto a special episode of Thalmor Radio tonight to discuss the treaty. It was one of the best episodes in a while, and it has a little bit of everything. Check it out below:

I agree that Clock is very scary and that the only way to be safe from them is to team up with approximately half the gamel; including almost every mega whale in existence.

This is, honestly, the best advice here. It's something you'll have to learn organically and slowly.

All I hear is "Los Pollos Hermanos" and "The Feds." Y'all need to calm down. We can't recreate the show in-game, you guys.

Your mom's house.

Fact: This is a Camelot W and there's no other way to interpret the way this war went.

Then can you answer my question that I left for you in another thread? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584211611624144956/972307367947550761/question.png

"Hello? Yes, we'd like to join Cataclysm."

How do you reconcile this statement with this thread, in which LeiaHair says that FSO declares war on Camelot because of the tax farm allegations?

Oh no no no Camelot bros. We got to cocky!