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Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Aren't you guys already fighting TKR?

Damn guess Rose can't hide their bank in your nation

There are literally dozens ones of them.

If having morals is awkward, then I don't want to be............ What's the opposite of awkward? Suave?

awkward... https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16262-hello-bk/

I'd be doubtful if someone told me that Rose/VE/SK split off very publicly from NPO/UPN/et al. only to turn around and convince them to fight for them.

The War of 2 Spheres

A respectable answer but probably one which should've been in the OP.

I am also interested to see how 0 ground forces works out for everyone this war. I'm basically raiding back whatever $$damage totals NPO/UPN is dealing me but they do maintain air superiority and I assume they will only have so much money to raid before I start taking net-damage. Also - the less-than-one-billion damage totals you've quoted so far... Last war most alliances took between 10 and 20 billion in damage. I'd say it's way too early to judge.

That would be hilarious.

We've known this for a long time.

Is this courage or is this innovation? It'll be interesting to see how this works out for y'all.

tbh it'd be nice if everyone could shift from IRC to discord. It'll happen eventually if the trends continue I think.

Grub has to get involved if it is truly to be a battle for Australia

It was only a matter of time before LordStrum had groupies.

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I think you'd be surprised at how some people view certain alliances that use treaties to shield themselves from harm. Even though certain FA teams thought it was a great idea to sign them based purely in stats.

For realism, the only cap on nukes should be upkeep. For balance, I would base it the same way we base all military units so that larger nations can have more. tbh not sure why spies have a hard cap.

Well if you have to sell off every single improvement except power just to competitively fight... Sounds like that would be even further detrimental to the war system rather than the stated intended purpose.

So after chatting with some test server users, apparently even though you can stack 2/3rds of a military buyback - it stacks too slowly to make a difference. If your infra is wiped out before you can buyback military then doesn't it defeat the idea of improving the ability to counter attack?

Seconded. You're*

I think it's fairly obvious it's a propaganda point rather than a true experiment. I applaud providing the community with entertainment though!

Conversely, why sign MDP's when you can just merge?

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