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That would require him to take any actions that actually benefits his (at the time) allies in tS. Come on man, use logic. tl;dr- Keegoz is being full of shit, keegoz knows he's being full of shit. And i'm calling keegoz out on being full of shit just like the times on our forums and your forums when he was being full of shit and I called him out. It's become like a day job.

BUT I PLAN TO. LETS GO And here you are again making various assumptions and insinuations about the tS' backroom thoughts and actions without having been privy to them in any way, shape or form, only to fit a narrative that suits your overarching vision of our inherent malice. We've been over this on our own forums just a week ago. We've been over this on your forums just a week ago. Do we really have to go over this on these forums as well? Oh on the contrary. There is a pattern to your posts when interacting to us, and its not pretty. See my point above. Don't play dumb. Let me ask you this: What exactly about our story is not coherent? Let's talk. Do me a favor: Scroll back to the first pages. They consist of a majority of tS posts expressing disappointment but wishing SK luck. Escalation only began to occur when various third parties began claiming that tS was supposedly being butthurt, and when an SK official made a statement about their sovereignty supposedly having been impeded and/or pressured upon. Lies and/or misrepresentations like that tend to spark interest from tS' posters and tend to lead to us coming out of the woodworks to set the matters straight. This pattern isn't new, you know. This has already been covered by others: You were indeed wrong and we held onto the paper because we wanted to continue to give the SK relationship a chance for various reasons. A mistake does not necessarily mean direct severance of ties and burning of bridges is a necessity. That's a manthrax question. But uhhh, there's eumir being eumir and some personal beef between Sk members and ex-sk members. Can you point out to me what makes you believe tS as a larger entity is 'talking shit'? 'cause i'm not seeing it. Also, lol at all Syndicate members shit talking at ex ally, seems like it is becoming part of their tradition. So when are you rolling SK for dumping you? Same question as I asked Ole.

That's cool and all. I respect your autonomy. You're making it seems like you were under extremely heavy pressure by us now. That's laughably incorrect. When it happened we were pissed and definitely made sure that you lads knew this. But we left your internals up to you.

ssshhhhh..... don't disturb them with logic.

What thread are you reading? This thread is pretty civil.

Good luck, SK. Sometimes you just gotta try new stuff. Don't be strangers. I've always felt like you and I's personal relationship could perhaps save the Alpha-tS partnership. I'm willing to give it a shot.

No i'm officially closing the thread.

When Placentica and I agree that you're wrong, that's when you know you !@#$ed up and are talking out of your ass. Thread closed.

No, a flies are pretty safe. People on the other hand..

8. UPN will become great again. ... great again ......... great again ...............................great again

Guess I'll get uhhh serious. Ish. TEST declared that it will do something. That is all. The declaration of protection over roz is unilateral and can be interpreted freely. Test did not specifically stipulate what exactly does or does not fall under this protection, after all. I actually view this as a fairly typical move for a paperless alliance: no agreement, just an ambiguous statement aimed at achieving a specific objective. Once the objective is met, test may freely move on if they please. Tl;Dr I agree with previous for once. Eat snow mensa! 😘

Am I in time yet to yell things about paperless?

brb, putting you to the test. Dance puppet, dance.

Welcome to the family of TEst protectorates, Roz. Guess you are brothers with The Syndicate now.

It mostly took just t$.... which was already holding down Rose.

On a more serious note: This is a bit saddening to me personally. Friends on both sides and all that jazz. Good luck to all.

Shit I need in on this or I won't be featured in the next legend of rozalia

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Kiss my feet.

The world has never been the same for me since.

We have actually had such situations occur. ProxyFest- when Rose pre-empted us, we immediately launched a succesful counterblitz (launched more wars than our opponent did, despite numerical disadvantages and their first-strike advantage). While government was on at the time, it was our active core of long-standing members which rallied on their own initiative and began organizing strikes. Internally, there was little distinction between govt or 'members' from a planning pov, that night: Everyone was involved. OktoberFest- When UPN/DEIC pre-empted us, none of our government (milcom, FA, econ) was online. Members mounted a small counter of their own and arguably didn't do bad. Numerical differences were too big on this one: The DEIC/UPN mass managed to fill most of us up.

I agree and will happily support you. But I do require our alliance in writing.

Think of the children

We tried to change the dynamic. Multiple times. I know since I ran into a wall on two seperate occasions with major players in both Paragon and Covenant (1 each). I also discussed options discretely with certain figures in your own alliance. In the meanwhile, treaties kept being signed on your end. Treaties that only solidified the current dynamic. Plans which had been in an advanced stage were crushed under the boot of a resurgent anti-t$ faction in one of the cases as well. Here's what I find... curious: Honestly guys? All reasons for war aside. All CB's and PR aside. All motivations aside: You have continuously enjoyed superior numbers. You have continuously been outsmarted and outperformed. You have consistently made tactical and strategical errors. You are equally guilty of initiating warfare as your opponents have been (if not more). You find yourself in a weaker position because you failed to capitalize on your advantages. Don't blame your opponents for not lowering themselves to your level so you can win. Blame yourselves and your leadership for being unable to keep up. More importantly though. Stop pointing fingers, recognize your mistakes, and do something about it. Innovate. Improve. Do something. Anything. If you want to change the political situation of the game, then get active. It's what we did. Y'all are starting to sound like scrubs who play all their video games on easy mode and reload the game whenever something goes wrong.