Deraj Responds to Allegations from The Cypher

[Kan0601]

3 hours ago, Buorhann said:

No you haven't.  Dude, I've been seeing all sorts of shit about you since you left Cypher.  Like a lot of very unimportant crap.  Just showing screenshots that really have nothing to do with the current setting or accusations of theft without any "elaboration" as to how beyond speculation.

How about the moments where you've acted whiny to the government when you disagree with something?  Or the accusations of inappropriate behavior in Discord?

Speaking of the Mega/bank/whatever issue - if you were going to be so protective over SnB "assets" - should've just kept your AA.  If you can't get on the same page after a merger, then don't merge.  Once you merge, there's no more ties to the previous AA.  That's it.  Either agree to be on the same page with the new AA formation or don't merge.

Honestly even if he hasn’t moved on completely and wants some kind of justice done for what they did to him. Keep in mind he didn’t start the leaking they started leaking on him first while he was still leader. So I am quite understanding of his situation and justifications for being pissed off with those who tried to remove him from power. Seeing as how George once tried the exact same thing with me but people saw right through his bull shit before blindly believing in his lies. I really can’t blame Derja for not moving on completely, I would even say the fact he actually got couped will stay with him for a long long time. Hell I didn’t get couped and I still hate George Long after 2 years. 

[Deraj]

7 hours ago, Shockrider1 said:

tl;dr: Cypher's big, Deraj does work behind scenes, people are guilty until proven innocent, Mega = George Santos and other gov agree, Deraj is moving on

almost nailed it

[Insert Name Here]

I saw the wall of text and was about to walk out of the thread, but then I stayed for the dog pics.

[Buorhann]

16 hours ago, Kan0601 said:

Honestly even if he hasn’t moved on completely and wants some kind of justice done for what they did to him.

What kind of justice?  Validation?  He's just as guilty as the members of government he worked with.  They all mishandled things.

[Keegoz]

On 12/8/2023 at 6:34 AM, Hecate said:

This is going to be a real shocker but perhaps, just perhaps, the merger was worthy of reconsideration if you can't trust one of the parties' bank holder so much to the point where you need to get them slotted for a transfer. Deraj is clearly trying to offload the blame to other gov but he's right to do so. This looks horrible for Cypher gov.

Most the issues come from the gov that Deraj brought with him. Every person involved in this mess (including Deraj) comes from the SnB side of the merger.

I have high hopes in the Serene Wei side correcting the ship.

On 12/8/2023 at 3:58 PM, Kan0601 said:

Honestly even if he hasn’t moved on completely and wants some kind of justice done for what they did to him. Keep in mind he didn’t start the leaking they started leaking on him first while he was still leader. So I am quite understanding of his situation and justifications for being pissed off with those who tried to remove him from power. Seeing as how George once tried the exact same thing with me but people saw right through his bull shit before blindly believing in his lies. I really can’t blame Derja for not moving on completely, I would even say the fact he actually got couped will stay with him for a long long time. Hell I didn’t get couped and I still hate George Long after 2 years. 

Given the leaks showing the mess they were in, and everyone apparently agreeing they're a mess. It's quite odd people are at the same time opposed to the removal of the leader overseeing said mess.

Cypher needs new leadership, and they now have it. They can't blame Deraj much from here.

[Krampus]

On 12/7/2023 at 10:34 PM, Deraj said:

Duke sends his regards

 

his name is duke because his hair treatments and vet appointments cost about the same as that of a duke's castle  

On 12/8/2023 at 8:27 AM, Shockrider1 said:

tl;dr Mega = George Santos

hahahahaha

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by Krampus

[Krampus]

On 12/8/2023 at 4:51 AM, Buorhann said:

Do report the API key stealing though

I haven't read the post, but are they stealing api key's, or are they just stealing banks using api keys? Because to my knowledge the latter is explicitly allowed per Alex, as api key mutations are designed to be used to move banks (just not by an attacker). be advised the api key owner needs to specifically turn on that feature in the settings, if it's not enabled they have nothing to fear. chances are if someone doesn't know what it is, their key is probably not enabled to do bank withdrawals begin with, so they have nothing to fear.

[Alexio15]

On 12/7/2023 at 8:52 PM, Deraj said:

First and foremost; I am here to refute the allegations brought against me by the other government members of Cypher. I relieved myself of the duties within the alliance; when it was apparent the government members I appointed were simply attempting to coup me.

One of the allegations claimed I had done no meaningful work. While the government of Cypher is very large; it also had two other leaders; an FA head who claims to be the shadow leader, and dozens of other mid-low government members. There was simply no need for me to have my hand in every aspect of the daily operations of the government; Jimmy & Davey spoke with me regularly. The claim of no meaningful work is false; the alliance being where it is today hinges on the work, driven by me from the outset of S&B some 7 months ago. 

The second allegation claims I mishandled the Graybird situation. I was never given the opportunity to even review the allegations against Gray. My key issue with the handling goes right back to George Long. Maybe it's my life experience – and the lack of life experience for the other members; but allegations as serious as Grays require thought, due diligence, and care. In America there is a presumption of innocence; I asked for clarification; verification, and time to review the matter. None of that was given. 

This was an out of character and an out of game situation in which only one person provided information. The information provided was only cropped screenshots. Had this information been presented to me; my first response would be to suggest the victim contact his local law enforcement agency – assuming the allegations are serious; the entities best suited to look into the claims are law enforcement, discord, and the game admin.

My point being; none of us in game; have the right to be the arbiters of social or criminal justice outside of the game. 

The third charge brought against me claims that I used alliance funds to order a hit on Mega. I will admit; I ordered a hit on Mega; but it was not done solely by me; George, Danny, and Henrik knew about it; and it was done with thought, care, and intention. 

For some time during the SNB era we had growing concerns about Mega holding the offshore. Mega was very quick to be sure everyone made their deposits; very quick to be sure all monies were moved into the offshore he was in; and very argumentative to any spending of alliance dollars.

It was a risk vs reward situation. If he was slotted; he was forced to move the bank; and it limited the possibility of him walking with it. George Long was very aware of the transaction; as the money was moved directly to Bohemian Grove – where he held it and took much time returning it to The Cypher post merge. 

The allegation that I did this on my own; and used alliance funding is a lie. I paid for it myself and those making the charge against me were directly involved in it happening. So in this matter; I’m guilty of protecting the assets of Skull & Bones members at my expense. 

I most certainly do not want to be restored to The Cypher; and will embrace the new journey ahead with the people who have always been friends during the good times and in the bad times. 

My Best,

Deraj

Enclosures: Below is information pertaining to the hits on Mega. They exhibit the involvement of multiple parties.

I was going to ignore this but I will just wade in because why not. I’m not going to sit and let allegations fly when you are just as bad if not worse. 
 

You had a VoNC built up and by members of Cypher government who joined from SnB. That is your folk Deraj, you had them pushed to the point that they felt the need to do this. I mean you’ve argued with, belittled them, hired mercs to hit them, sold them out, laughed at one being spy wiped by another, plotted with others to remove them but couldn’t because of your own failures, plotted to oust members and the list carries on. I can hardly say I blame them for pushing the need to remove you especially if I have had to put up with that behaviour for so long. The final nail in the coffin was you losing your shit wildly and going ham at them. You played that line and lost, don’t claim to be innocent or whatever. As for coup I didn’t realise we started calling VoNC a coup. Wow. 
 

As for meaningful work you have mostly been silent in Cypher and there are multiple instances of you mentioning as such. You didn’t wade into much and barely made any lasting decisions or impact. You literally appeared the moment we started banding about people to hit and decided then you would start talking and trying to do things. Don’t act all high and mighty like you have been around and single-handedly dragged things where they are. In fact your secret plotting overthrowing server is where you have been most active. Might ignore your attempts to start your own style of removal for folks by trying to drum support up through government by asking them if they are bored of cypher politics. What would we call that I wonder. 
 

For the grey situation I’m only going to lightly touch on that because frankly I ain’t touching it with a 10 foot barge pole. You flipped your shit at government and went way overboard with how you handled that. Even with your justifications you spoke to people like they were pieces of shit and tends to be the case folks don’t like that. 
 

Oh my admitting using alliance funds to hit your own high gov member. Christ what a shocking twist of events for everything. Almost as if all of the shady shit going on was your fault. Or you pushing it when someone brought it to you. (Not defending George because that idiot is just as bad). 
 

Also that super little secret server of yours where you pushed stuff. Also knowing and implementing a spy ring in Aurora through Danny. Yikes not a good look, interesting stuff coming out of the works now you have moved on. An entire plot to try and force Henrik out of the alliance for no reason. Plots to remove others for next to no reason except you didn’t like them and they called you on your BS. 
 

So let us not pretend it is oh poor little Deraj the innocent character he is. You sir are no where near innocent and no where near someone who should be getting sympathy for being removed for his crap. 

[CoraMcstrap]

Innocent till proven guilty doesn't exist on the internet., All it takes is 1 accusation and most communities remove someone because they don't want to be viewed as defending a "bad person".  It might not be just but it's the only way many online communities can protect themselves and their members and be seen to be doing it. 

[DaveyJ]

The Cypher Responds to Deraj Responds to Allegations from The Cypher

I had no interest in publicly responding to the leaks, but you all seem intent on dragging this out as much as possible. I guess the pearl-clutchers of Orbis like to ignore the fact that the vast majority of damning leaks that Deraj has dropped come from his DMs or a sekrit server¹ that he created during SnB to push out select members of his gov, because he lacked the authority in his own alliance to fire high gov. Man is leaking on himself and "his" gov, but Cypher at large are apparently the ones catching the flak for getting rid of the issue.

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The claim of no meaningful work is false; the alliance being where it is today hinges on the work, driven by me from the outset of S&B some 7 months ago. 

Paraphrasing, "I made SnB so I am forever entitled to a leadership position regardless of the work that I do." Personally, I couldn't have cared less about Deraj showing up a couple times a week to pitch all out war on TCM, UPN, Atlas, LoD, et al. Silent partner was more or less the understanding that SW walked into this partnership with and never once did I complain about that relationship, but let's be real here.
 

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My point being; none of us in game; have the right to be the arbiters of social or criminal justice outside of the game. 

Totally agree, except that isn't what your concern was, eh? You insisted that some rando in a browser game would doxx and sue you for claims made against a discord persona. 110% the Graybird thing could have, and should have, been handled differently. To stake some claim of moral high ground and not being "the arbiter of social justice" or arguing the semantics of the word "pedophilia" is a weird hill to die on. Frankly, for some of the people that I see in this community taking that stance... yeah, that tracks.

The issue that led to, let us not gloss over this, your Skull & Bones government members sending me a petition to remove you stemmed from your inability to have a conversation without coming across as condescending. This was an issue that I had brought up several times with not only you, as it was alienating our government.

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The third charge brought against me claims that I used alliance funds to order a hit on Mega. I will admit; I ordered a hit on Mega; but it was not done solely by me; George, Danny, and Henrik knew about it; and it was done with thought, care, and intention. 

I think what blows my mind the most about this entire ordeal is the fact that these were all conversations that you were having and things that you were scheming. Yet, once again, we're the !@#$ in the eyes of the pearl-clutchers of Orbis? I am not going to deny that sketchy shit was proposed, seriously or otherwise, from time-to-time in leadership channels, but come on. Never once did those of us that are left greenlight yoinking banks or hitting our own members.

It's funny that one of Deraj's former government members, our now-former head of IA², publicly admitted in RON that Deraj ordered the creation of a spy ring during SnB that was kept from SW during the merge and that was just glossed right over. The kicker is that the ring apparently centered around Aurora while they continue to provide safe refuge to Deraj to this day.

¹ "Sekrit Server" - Avoiding the semantics that were already had with Deraj on the matter, this term is admittedly used loosely as a private channel on the Nexus Tech discord that was home to discussions to oust his high gov.
² Danny - Removed from High Gov and has opted to delete his nation when his VM ends.

Edited December 10, 2023 by DaveyJ

[Buorhann]

16 hours ago, DaveyJ said:

The kicker is that the ring apparently centered around Aurora while they continue to provide safe refuge to Deraj to this day.

Not a shocker.  ex-members of Aurora are almost always trying to move people to Aurora after whatever AA they join either fails or doesn't do much.  It's their MO.